Greg Ellis talks 'Hard Knocks' - 5/15/08

[dcfanatic]

Ellis talking 'Hard Knocks' on HBO

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This was a 3 minute clip from the interview he did last week on Sirius.

They put the music on and Wade was just bobbing his head with it, lol.

Anyone got any footage of Wade dancing to Soldier Boy?

 

[WV Cowboy]

This may have already been discussed, but I haven't been on the board much lately. Sorry if I missed it.

I am totally against this whole "HBO Hard Knocks" thing.

It is a total distraction for the players, nothing more.

It does nothing to prepare them for the season, which if I'm not mistaken is what training camp is for.

It's not like we need the publicity, we don't, we are already the Dallas 'freakin' Cowboys !

It serves no constructive purpose.

This team needs to focus, .. focus on finishing the season strong, .. focus on showing up in the playoffs and making a deep run, focus on being their best, focus on leaving no stone unturned in the effort to get better.

They don't NEED this distraction.

Even the most mature and focused of players can't help but notice that HBO cameras are all over the place, filming everything they do and say.

I just see no point in it, other than making money.

In the movie Remember the Titans, the coaches took them away prior to the season to be together. Away from all distractions, to bond, to focus, to come together as a team.

Thats what training camp should be, .. a circling of the wagons so to speak, build the 'us against the world' mindset.

Instead we will be schmucking it up for the cameras, it's just human nature.

I have coached for 16 years, (not at this level obviously) but I firmly believe that what you accomplish in the pre-season lays the foundation for the season. It determines what your team will become, or "can" become throughout the season.

Training camp is too critical to insert this HBO crap and think that it won't have an impact.

I'm disappointed. That's my .02

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

This may have already been discussed, but I haven't been on the board much lately. Sorry if I missed it.

I'm disappointed. That's my .02

Yes we had a long thread with opinions about it, but the more important thing is...where have you been hiding you old coot?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Ellis talking 'Hard Knocks' on HBO

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This was a 3 minute clip from the interview he did last week on Sirius.

They put the music on and Wade was just bobbing his head with it, lol.

Anyone got any footage of Wade dancing to Soldier Boy?

I would like to see it also....

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yes we had a long thread with opinions about it, but the more important thing is...where have you been hiding you old coot?

Anyone else concerned?

It will be fun for the fans, but it will be detrimental to reaching our potential.

It will.

(who you calling a coot?)
GREAT sig pic !!

 

[tomson75]

I have little to no concern for the players themselves, but the psyche of this board and cowboys fans everywhere will be on edge. Sadly, the slightest controversy, being made readily viewable by the public, will throw us into a tailspin pretty quickly IMO. I can imagine we'll be seeing an increased number of outsiders on the forum this summer.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone else concerned?

It will be fun for the fans, but it will be detrimental to reaching our potential.

It will.

(who you calling a coot?)
GREAT sig pic !!

I agree with you. I would rather the Cowboys not do this I see it as a distraction for a team who already tends to lose focus. When you been one top teams in penalties and fading towards the end of the season for the last few seasons focus is part of the reason.

 

[Duane]

I don't see how the cameras change winning a playoff game.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I agree with you. I would rather the Cowboys not do this I see it as a distraction for a team who already tends to lose focus. When you been one top teams in penalties and fading towards the end of the season for the last few seasons focus is part of the reason.

We are right, without a doubt, .. but to what extent remains to be seen.

Everything a team does each day in the preseason lays a block in the foundation of what that team will become, and the quality of each block determines what you potentially "can" become.

That team is either getting better, or they aren't.

This HBO show is a waste of time in the preparations for the upcoming season.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It's not like we're not going to be having training camp as usual. There are going to be more cameras there, oh no. There are cameras at every training camp. There are just more of them now.

Maybe we should tell our guys not to do pre or post game interviews ever again, no press conferences, none of that. All of these things distract them from getting better!

 

[CATCH17]

Yes we had a long thread with opinions about it, but the more important thing is...where have you been hiding you old coot?

Whats a coot?

 

[Jay-D]

I don't see how the cameras change winning a playoff game.

BUT TEH HBo CAMErAZ WILL MAKE TEH RoMO CRAZEE!!!!1111!

Ya know what I think? I think this team needs to be distracted. I hope they get off to a terrible start. Maybe that way we can peak the the right time at the end of the season instead of burning out in the last month.

You don't build a good team in training camp any more than you build a good army in boot camp. The real chemistry comes during the battles on the field.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Living in the NYC Metro area, I'm happy about it. Of course it means I have to get HBO, but all I really have out here is CZ which lacks topics that keep you going sometimes during the offseason, and DMN blog which *sometimes* has some good and entertaining information.

Make it a yearly deal. Hell, nobody wants to see other teams, it's all about the Cowboys! :laugh2:

 

[dcfanatic]

I am all for it on some fronts and completely against it on others.

The Good. We get to see the Cowboys behind the scenes stuff at TC and it will be available to see whenever we want with HBO on demand. (Plus I know some people, wink wink, will be recording and posting online. And yes I did just get the new equipment to digital record so no more cam recording for this guy, thanks Tek2000!, lol.)

The Bad. It's hard not referencing that last time we were on this show and how bad that season turned out, but that's not really fair because we all know this 2008 team is much more talented.

The bad could also become catastrophic if something like an arrest happens or a fight between teammates or some other non-football related issue pops up which becomes ESPN's best friend.

If we just go to camp and work hard in preparing for the season without any 'unnecessary drama' popping up then it should be all good.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I don't know to what extent Hard Knocks will affect the team. Baltimore went from 12-4 the previous year to 10-6 with Hard Knocks, Jacksonville went from 5-11 to 9-7, Dallas went from 5-11 to 5-11 and the Chiefs went from 9-7 to 4-12.

It appears to be insubstantial. The Chiefs got worse primarily because of injuries to the QBs and RBs, Shields retirement and starting a 2nd year QB half the time. The rest of the teams either performed slightly better, slightly worse or the same.

We'll see, maybe it will provide distraction in the beginning, but become more of a motivating factor later in camp.

 

[WV Cowboy]

You don't build a good team in training camp any more than you build a good army in boot camp. The real chemistry comes during the battles on the field.

I can't believe someone said this.

Imagine how unprepared our guys/girls would be if they arrived in the military one day and went straight to battle the next.

 

[Scotman]

I don't see how the cameras change winning a playoff game.

The Cheatriots would publicly agree.

 

[MapleLeaf]

...is ultimately going to be a management issue.

Players who are extroverts are going to play up to cameras whether it's Hard Knocks or not.

It's up to Wade Phillips that the camps are run to extent that the team is able to reach their potential this season.

If the Cowboys fail this year there will be much more talk about the value of Phillips as opposed to what we have been hearing lately about a certain safety.

Hard Knocks should not be a distraction if Wade Phillips organizes and handles his practice properly.

There are no excuses this year. Jessica, Hard Knocks, 3-4 defence, Pacman it all doesn't matter.

Right now the media is talking about the Cowboys being as strong as anybody from top to bottom.

Taking into account last year's regular season record there is alot of people who have their necks on the chopping block if the team doesn't perform.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I can't believe someone said this.

Imagine how unprepared our guys/girls would be if they arrived in the military one day and went straight to battle the next.

...right now in places like Rwanda, Somalia, Palestine and many other undeveloped countries.

Guess who are typically the first casualties of war?

Your actions in war are the outcome of your training. Your training is the necessity required to prevent an undesirable outcome. In both military and football analogies.