Group Chat: Dak's Recovery and QB 2 battle

[KingCorcoran]

He is better.

Dual threat with a cannon arm.

He’s in LA now.

He’s gone from a team committed to an established starting quarterback to one committed to a younger established one. He is a “week 18” quarterback. Nothing more.

 

[blueblood70]

It has nothing to do with trusting a player in what they say. It is just logical.

But its not logical,

I mean are you him are you in his head, I mean do you feel his pain ?? do you know for a fact he's not healthy?​

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I just said three to 5 months rehab time, that's what it says what if he was a 3-month healer at 5months, So right now he's feeling great??​

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so he made that statement even though it doesn't matter why would he make the statement if it doesn't matter, because we don't need him healthy for 4 more months crazy right?​

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that somebody would say something unnecessary, but you take it as a smokescreen because you feel like it , no, I'd say that you're a conspiracy theorist and you just wanted to make a story out of it, but again why does it matter September is a long way away...​

 

[blueblood70]

It has nothing to do with trusting a player in what they say. It is just logical.
If he is supposedly jogging, not running. It does not sound like he could play. Not after 5 months, if it is a 5 month recovery.
That time does not mean fully healed

And as you said you felt like you could do what you needed to do after 6 months. But your doctor said 9 months. Sure Dak probably feels he could play, but the doctors probably told him 9 months as well.

I too had some major surgery on both achilles and other tendons and ligaments in my feet and ankles. After all my rehab, I felt I could do things I normally could, but knew I really could not. And did not, under doctors orders.

So why is being untrusting being a pessimist? True, we never see Dak or other starters until game 1. Then they always have some sort of injury, even if they are our 3 or 4 weeks.

Now logic tells me that the player said something in its he has no reason to lie because the seasons five months away he has plenty more time to heal and rehab and yet he made the statement because I believe he believes he's healthy enough to play but it's a good thing we don't need him for four more months...

 

[blueblood70]

You all know what I think of Dak. No reason to go over that again. However I find myself intrigued by Tommy Mellott out of Montana St. I would jump on him as UDFA for sure. Supposedly Sean McVay likes him FWIW so maybe there is something there.

IF This kid is all that, and social media's come a long way, so no secret surprises coming, since Tony Romo and some other guys get lost it as undrafted free agents..

why would you allow him to become a free agent you can get him in the 7th round? why would you not pick a guy who you think could have something and wait for him to be able to pick wherever he wants to go? you pick him up in the 6th round or the 7th round..​

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those are typically throw away draft slots, so you go get a guy like that I'm pretty sure that's what San Francisco had in mind for Brock Purdy, they didn't think he was going to be their starter in no way shape or form was at a pick that they knew he was going to become something.. however, if they have a good feeling about a guy, you do not let him become an undrafted free agent, you go get him with one of your draft picks...​

 

[blueblood70]

DART . Cowboy trade down in the first .trade up in the second. I just don’t believe he’ll be there that long. In my opinion, he’s the second third best quarterback of this year‘s draft I like him better than . Sanders

The kid from New England Milton , is going to surprise a lot of people . we need a potential starter, not a back up game manager.

No way shape or form do you move up in the second round to get a quarterback when our quarterback's gonna be here two to 4 years and I'm not saying we shouldn't look at a quarterback because if Sanders somehow falls us to us at 12 then you probably should pick him.

It costs too much to move up you either stand pat and grab a guy or you trade down therefore I'm saying no to getting a guy like dart in the second round if you have to move up and get him if they feel that good about him then if he falls to you in the 2nd round then go get him but we really need the first three picks to be starters day one starters no red flags no injury concerns no developmental players no future quarterbacks we should just go get our guys and actually trading down makes more sense...

I see why you would suggest it but I'm saying absolutely not but that's why I think people think I'm crazy if Sanders falls to you at 12 he's supposed to go in the top ten or he's a first round pick why would you not pick him you don't have to expend any other resources and then you would have to then be very creative the rest of the way trading down a lot maneuvering to make sure you get your running back wide receiver defensive tackle etcetera etcetera...

 

[Cowboy4ever]

No way shape or form do you move up in the second round to get a quarterback when our quarterback's gonna be here two to 4 years and I'm not saying we shouldn't look at a quarterback because if Sanders somehow falls us to us at 12 then you probably should pick him.

It costs too much to move up you either stand pat and grab a guy or you trade down therefore I'm saying no to getting a guy like dart in the second round if you have to move up and get him if they feel that good about him then if he falls to you in the 2nd round then go get him but we really need the first three picks to be starters day one starters no red flags no injury concerns no developmental players no future quarterbacks we should just go get our guys and actually trading down makes more sense...

I see why you would suggest it but I'm saying absolutely not but that's why I think people think I'm crazy if Sanders falls to you at 12 he's supposed to go in the top ten or he's a first round pick why would you not pick him you don't have to expend any other resources and then you would have to then be very creative the rest of the way trading down a lot maneuvering to make sure you get your running back wide receiver defensive tackle etcetera etcetera...

If Sanders falls to us at 12, that is our best chance to trade back and get good value for that pick. That is our best case scenario, he falls and we can trade back several spots and get a 3rd and 4th round pick out of it, draft the best RB late in the First and move on.

 

[jazzcat22]

But its not logical,

I mean are you him are you in his head, I mean do you feel his pain ?? do you know for a fact he's not healthy?​

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I just said three to 5 months rehab time, that's what it says what if he was a 3-month healer at 5months, So right now he's feeling great??​

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so he made that statement even though it doesn't matter why would he make the statement if it doesn't matter, because we don't need him healthy for 4 more months crazy right?​

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that somebody would say something unnecessary, but you take it as a smokescreen because you feel like it , no, I'd say that you're a conspiracy theorist and you just wanted to make a story out of it, but again why does it matter September is a long way away...​

Now logic tells me that the player said something in its he has no reason to lie because the seasons five months away he has plenty more time to heal and rehab and yet he made the statement because I believe he believes he's healthy enough to play but it's a good thing we don't need him for four more months...

Believe what you will. Are there videos out there of him running and cutting at full speed?
You seem to take my comments personal. I am giving my opinions about it.

This is from a google search.

"Dak Prescott is making excellent progress in his recovery from a partial hamstring avulsion suffered during the 2024 season. He has been working on rebuilding his strength and conditioning, and believes he could play if needed today. He has been actively participating in throwing sessions and regaining mobility."

Note ...believes he could play. Here is some logical info, ALL players say this at some point in their rehab, but they really prob;y can. We hearths time and time again, only for a player to start TC on PUP.

Note .... the bold, key words ... regaining mobility...
That does not sound like he is ready to play.

Not sure why you are so fired up that he is completely healed. I like the optimism, and I am not being pessimistic, though you think I am. I just do not see him at 100% at this point.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dak...cEOC4xNKAH-6QBsgcENy4xNLgH8BI&sclient=gws-wiz

 

[blueblood70]

Believe what you will. Are there videos out there of him running and cutting at full speed?
You seem to take my comments personal. I am giving my opinions about it.

This is from a google search.

"Dak Prescott is making excellent progress in his recovery from a partial hamstring avulsion suffered during the 2024 season. He has been working on rebuilding his strength and conditioning, and believes he could play if needed today. He has been actively participating in throwing sessions and regaining mobility."

Note ...believes he could play. Here is some logical info, ALL players say this at some point in their rehab, but they really prob;y can. We hearths time and time again, only for a player to start TC on PUP.

Note .... the bold, key words ... regaining mobility...
That does not sound like he is ready to play.

Not sure why you are so fired up that he is completely healed. I like the optimism, and I am not being pessimistic, though you think I am. I just do not see him at 100% at this point.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dak+prescott+recovery&sca_esv=500e08080b6980ae&sxsrf=AHTn8zpCVRKZUrK10pidxvW37F8wzgZDBw:1744993187835&source=hp&ei=o3sCaN3IMLDbwN4Phb63iAk&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAaAKJs0OLJ3RfD3FOQE0togx3OdbKW-Co&oq=dak+prescott+recovery&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhVkYWsgcHJlc2NvdHQgcmVjb3ZlcnkqAggAMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeSMJaULwEWIJGcAF4AJABAJgBrAGgAYYSqgEEOC4xM7gBAcgBAPgBAZgCFqAChBOoAgrCAg0QLhjRAxjHARgnGOoCwgIHECMYJxjqAsICBxAuGCcY6gLCAgQQIxgnwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIFEC4YgATCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIOEC4YgAQYxwEYjgUYrwGYAxTxBRZ2OmKfAiVWkgcEOC4xNKAH-6QBsgcENy4xNLgH8BI&sclient=gws-wiz

Again, I believe it because he had no reason to lie it's not like we're two weeks away from the season starting and he just says that to make people feel better we're talking about its 5 months away or whatever no reason for him to tell us something that's not true...

there's no smokescreen here, if he says he can play tomorrow that he probably could, but again why worry about it..

Ohh my, dude, as much as you post here and you can't even read into what regaining mobility is,

he means running more and running smoother than he has since he's broke his ankle, like he's wanting to get back to being more mobile, not since the hamstring, but Like be more mobile has nothing to do with the injury, he's doing this getting more lean and trying to be in the best shape of his career so he can be more mobile I don't even know how you miss that cause you're trying to find things that aren't there you're reading into things.. I mean did you miss the part when he's talked about Jerry's asked him not to run as much not to risk it if he doesn't have to he's been hesitant to run even though that game that he got hurt in he actually was running a lot more than usual but he's just talking about trying to get his mind set back to taking off and running more take the injuries out of it he wants to run more.. Of course he's not going to be Lamar Jackson or Jayden Daniels but he wants to get back to doing a little bit more of it when he can and not hesitate so he's getting his body ready..

I digress,

not doing this anymore, don't matter September is a long way away and he will be here game one and be fully healthy and he will be playing...

now if you want to talk about the guys who are not healthy and that we got to wonder when they're coming back that would be Diggs, Butler, and Overshown unfortunately all on one side of the ball...

 

[blueblood70]

If Sanders falls to us at 12, that is our best chance to trade back and get good value for that pick. That is our best case scenario, he falls and we can trade back several spots and get a 3rd and 4th round pick out of it, draft the best RB late in the First and move on.

Look I heard all sides of this I'm just giving my opinion and yes trading down in some other post we already having this discussion,

but I'm telling you if I was AGM this is the place where you take a chance and a guy falls to you, you don't have to trade up, you don't have to trade back, and he could be a future starting quarterback you should take him..

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it I don't think he'll be there but if he is there they should take some serious thought about taking the guy you guys always complain they don't pick quarterbacks in the first round anymore and I don't care what your opinion is of the guy a lot of people think he's going to be a very good quarterback no one's talking Hall of Fame or Pro Bowl but right now at worse he sits behind Prescott for two to three years and gets groomed a lot like Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo..

they could have an opportunity here to groom their future quarterback, who is a real prospect, I don't care again what your opinion is of him and I know we don't need a quarterback but people talking about trading up to get Jackson dart in the second round,

my response to that is if that's what you want as a quarterback he falls to you at 12, you take him.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Inexplicably Grier just wont die

 

[Whirlwin]

No way shape or form do you move up in the second round to get a quarterback when our quarterback's gonna be here two to 4 years and I'm not saying we shouldn't look at a quarterback because if Sanders somehow falls us to us at 12 then you probably should pick him.

It costs too much to move up you either stand pat and grab a guy or you trade down therefore I'm saying no to getting a guy like dart in the second round if you have to move up and get him if they feel that good about him then if he falls to you in the 2nd round then go get him but we really need the first three picks to be starters day one starters no red flags no injury concerns no developmental players no future quarterbacks we should just go get our guys and actually trading down makes more sense...

I see why you would suggest it but I'm saying absolutely not but that's why I think people think I'm crazy if Sanders falls to you at 12 he's supposed to go in the top ten or he's a first round pick why would you not pick him you don't have to expend any other resources and then you would have to then be very creative the rest of the way trading down a lot maneuvering to make sure you get your running back wide receiver defensive tackle etcetera etcetera...

I surely hope not, but you never know.

 

[Whirlwin]

No way shape or form do you move up in the second round to get a quarterback when our quarterback's gonna be here two to 4 years and I'm not saying we shouldn't look at a quarterback because if Sanders somehow falls us to us at 12 then you probably should pick him.

It costs too much to move up you either stand pat and grab a guy or you trade down therefore I'm saying no to getting a guy like dart in the second round if you have to move up and get him if they feel that good about him then if he falls to you in the 2nd round then go get him but we really need the first three picks to be starters day one starters no red flags no injury concerns no developmental players no future quarterbacks we should just go get our guys and actually trading down makes more sense...

I see why you would suggest it but I'm saying absolutely not but that's why I think people think I'm crazy if Sanders falls to you at 12 he's supposed to go in the top ten or he's a first round pick why would you not pick him you don't have to expend any other resources and then you would have to then be very creative the rest of the way trading down a lot maneuvering to make sure you get your running back wide receiver defensive tackle etcetera etcetera...

The conversation was about quarterbacks and I was just throwing my two cents in. I still want a defensive tackle. Then a wide receiver, running back corner back linebacker.

 

[speedkilz88]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...picy-qb2-battle-between-joe-milton-will-grier

He says, what Dak said, if he had to play a game, he could.
I call BS. In another article it said, Dak says that, but most likely he could not.
I even seen another article, claiming he had a slight set back, and the tear is still not completely healed being attached to the bone. I need to try to find that one.

Walker is implying there may be a battle for QB 2, between Grier and Milton. I say it is not close. Grier was not as good as Rush, who many on here over rated. And he certainly was not beat the Trey Lance.
They need to bring in another QB for more competition.

But here it is for further discussion.

"Media" made up the same BS last time Dak was injured. Quit eating the cheese.

 

[jazzcat22]

Again, I believe it because he had no reason to lie it's not like we're two weeks away from the season starting and he just says that to make people feel better we're talking about its 5 months away or whatever no reason for him to tell us something that's not true...

there's no smokescreen here, if he says he can play tomorrow that he probably could, but again why worry about it..

Ohh my, dude, as much as you post here and you can't even read into what regaining mobility is,

he means running more and running smoother than he has since he's broke his ankle, like he's wanting to get back to being more mobile, not since the hamstring, but Like be more mobile has nothing to do with the injury, he's doing this getting more lean and trying to be in the best shape of his career so he can be more mobile I don't even know how you miss that cause you're trying to find things that aren't there you're reading into things.. I mean did you miss the part when he's talked about Jerry's asked him not to run as much not to risk it if he doesn't have to he's been hesitant to run even though that game that he got hurt in he actually was running a lot more than usual but he's just talking about trying to get his mind set back to taking off and running more take the injuries out of it he wants to run more.. Of course he's not going to be Lamar Jackson or Jayden Daniels but he wants to get back to doing a little bit more of it when he can and not hesitate so he's getting his body ready..

I digress,

not doing this anymore, don't matter September is a long way away and he will be here game one and be fully healthy and he will be playing...

now if you want to talk about the guys who are not healthy and that we got to wonder when they're coming back that would be Diggs, Butler, and Overshown unfortunately all on one side of the ball...

Wow, well keep on telling yourself all of that. He is not any closer to returning at this point than any of the other players.
Sorry that you can’t accept another persons logical opinion without throwing some slight insult in there.

 

[blueblood70]

The conversation was about quarterbacks and I was just throwing my two cents in. I still want a defensive tackle. Then a wide receiver, running back corner back linebacker.

I get that but I'm just telling you that moving up in this draft in the first 3ROUNDS would be a terrible mistake trading down would be the best option or stay in Pat and if a quarterback falls you in whichever round it is if you like them you take him

 

[blueblood70]

Wow, well keep on telling yourself all of that. He is not any closer to returning at this point than any of the other players.
Sorry that you can’t accept another persons logical opinion without throwing some slight insult in there.

And I hate to break it to you,

you do not live at the star,​

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you do not work for the media outlets at the star ,and even them they don't know the real stories unless they want them to know...​

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Jerry would tell them stephen would tell them somebody up there would let them know the real story,​

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but I'm going to go ahead and take it from the person who's actually injured ,who has no reason to lie about his progress ,because we're 4 months away, this isn't two weeks away, and the story's breaking they caught him limping and they don't think that he's going to be ready for game 1......​

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now we have to speculate, there's no speculation he has zero reason to give a false statement ,more than four months away from game one, literally no reason..​

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you don't live with him either, I mean are you Daks best friend? I mean you've been staying at his house?​

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I mean are you his nanny? I can see you being his nanny, that would make sense, maybe you've been taking care of his baby and they've been telling you the inside scoop and you know for 100 percent fact he's not ready to start a game...​

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even though,​

And I'll say it again a 3 to 5 month rehab, we're already at month 5 therefore is very possible he was healthy at three months and now he's really getting himself ready and he could actually start if necessary, even though it's unnecessary that's what he said if there was a game tomorrow, I could play...

 

[jazzcat22]

And I hate to break it to you,

you do not live at the star,​

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you do not work for the media outlets at the star ,and even them they don't know the real stories unless they want them to know...​

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Jerry would tell them stephen would tell them somebody up there would let them know the real story,​

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but I'm going to go ahead and take it from the person who's actually injured ,who has no reason to lie about his progress ,because we're 4 months away, this isn't two weeks away, and the story's breaking they caught him limping and they don't think that he's going to be ready for game 1......​

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now we have to speculate, there's no speculation he has zero reason to give a false statement ,more than four months away from game one, literally no reason..​

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you don't live with him either, I mean are you Daks best friend? I mean you've been staying at his house?​

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I mean are you his nanny? I can see you being his nanny, that would make sense, maybe you've been taking care of his baby and they've been telling you the inside scoop and you know for 100 percent fact he's not ready to start a game...​

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even though,​

And I'll say it again a 3 to 5 month rehab, we're already at month 5 therefore is very possible he was healthy at three months and now he's really getting himself ready and he could actually start if necessary, even though it's unnecessary that's what he said if there was a game tomorrow, I could play...

And neither do you.
I don't know what your issue is, maybe you just like to argue thinking you are always correct. You are NOT.

Take his word for it all you want. Just like he gave his word to Jerry he will win him a SB after he signed his 1st massive contract.

 

[blueblood70]

And neither do you.
I don't know what your issue is, maybe you just like to argue thinking you are always correct. You are NOT.

Take his word for it all you want. Just like he gave his word to Jerry he will win him a SB after he signed his 1st massive contract.

I don't need proof I use common sense in logic your logic is skewed he has no reason to lie he said what he said because I find it to be true and I'll judge it that way which is the best way because you're trying to start gaslit conversations so you can have a long debate like this and it worked but I'm still telling you you're wrong... You know what that's completely different but good try though someone that has intentions to want to win a Super Bowl can't do it alone we all know this so those things being said is how he feels it's what he wants but we're talking about his own health in the window the 3 to 5 month rehab time and we're at five months and he says he feels good enough to start a game i'm taking the man's word for it because it's his leg and Here's zero reason to lie there was no reason for him to say it except for it was the truth!!!

But content creators', people like the post a lot the right stories they like to create drama where there is none so they'll never believe anything so whenever any story comes out they'll slant it to the opposite...

 

[jazzcat22]

I don't need proof I use common sense in logic your logic is skewed he has no reason to lie he said what he said because I find it to be true and I'll judge it that way which is the best way because you're trying to start gaslit conversations so you can have a long debate like this and it worked but I'm still telling you you're wrong... You know what that's completely different but good try though someone that has intentions to want to win a Super Bowl can't do it alone we all know this so those things being said is how he feels it's what he wants but we're talking about his own health in the window the 3 to 5 month rehab time and we're at five months and he says he feels good enough to start a game i'm taking the man's word for it because it's his leg and Here's zero reason to lie there was no reason for him to say it except for it was the truth!!!

But content creators', people like the post a lot the right stories they like to create drama where there is none so they'll never believe anything so whenever any story comes out they'll slant it to the opposite...

I did not say he was lying. He feels he can play, but he knows it is really not the case. Maybe we need a poll. We know what the outcome will be.

 

[Whirlwin]

I get that but I'm just telling you that moving up in this draft in the first 3ROUNDS would be a terrible mistake trading down would be the best option or stay in Pat and if a quarterback falls you in whichever round it is if you like them you take him

I agree hundred percent. Wide receivers does not much difference between one and four. Quarterback I actually like the kid from New England. We got. Defensive tackle. We can get it at 12. I don’t have a problem moving down taking a running back somewhere.