Guess we SHOULD HAVE traded Dat for Darren Howard

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Juke99 said:
Well, yeah....and cutting Jimmy Smith...and they should never have changed the flavor of the Classic Coke...and who thought the Edsel was a good idea anyway?

:D

Easy there... I drive a mint green '58 Pacer 2 door
 

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wsmith_1972 said:
Howard would have been no use to us....he would have been an underperforming overpaid DE. I'm glad that didn't happen...even looking back on it.

Now Bryant for Larry Johnson and Bryant for Warrick Dunn...looks pretty good right now.

Larry Johnson would have been a nice complement to our backs, a nice, big, downhill runner.
 

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Howard is useless in the 3-4. Plus he is old and way overpaid, I am SO GLAD we dodged that bullet. we got really lucky.
 

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Juke99 said:
Well, yeah....and cutting Jimmy Smith...and they should never have changed the flavor of the Classic Coke...and who thought the Edsel was a good idea anyway?

:D

We should have passed on Shante Carver and Dewayne Goodrich while we're at it. Kendrell Bell instead of Q-Ball and Shawn Rogers instead of Tony Dixon would've been nice too.

Best of all... passing on Campo for coach could've set us forward a few years.
 

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Hiero said:
Howard is useless in the 3-4. Plus he is old and way overpaid, I am SO GLAD we dodged that bullet. we got really lucky.

Howard would be just as useless in the 3-4 as Ellis is. They're about the same size and have similar skills.

In hindsight... we should've made the trade.
 

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AsthmaField said:
Howard would be just as useless in the 3-4 as Ellis is. They're about the same size and have similar skills.

In hindsight... we should've made the trade.
yes but we already have ellis and we didnt have to sign him to a contract that howard would have wanted, it would have been a horrible trade.
 

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Hiero said:
yes but we already have ellis and we didnt have to sign him to a contract that howard would have wanted, it would have been a horrible trade.

We'll just disagree on this one. I think Howard is a very good player and worth a good sized contract.
 

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AsthmaField said:
We'll just disagree on this one. I think Howard is a very good player and worth a good sized contract.

He wasn't worth $16 million in signing bonus like he was asking, but people seemed to think that was the only deal. Uh, hello. Wouldn't a good agent leak a higher number than he wanted?

In reality, he probably could have been had for $9 or $10 million in SB money. Not bad for a quality DE who is under 30.

Line up him, Ferguson, Glover and Ellis and you have a heck of a front four. You could still draft Ware and Spears and get that great rotation that the team has now (or any number of other enticing scenarios). Plus you'd still have that youth movement.

If Dat was the trade bait, draft Odell Thurman in 2. How good has that guy looked this year?

You could still play 3-4 or 4-3 and have a terrific front seven and a nasty nickel pass rush.

How is this? Howard/Ferguson/Ellis with a second line of Spears/Glover/Canty and the LBers being Fujita/James/Thurman/Ware.

Or:
Howard/Ferguson/Glover/Ellis with Spears and Ware rotating in and out.

LB: James/Thurman/Singleton(or Shanle or Fujita or even Ware in certain looks)

Not saying that I am unhappy with what happened, but simply that it wasn't that inconceivable or as dumb as the clowns around here like to try to make it out to be.
 

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junk said:
He wasn't worth $16 million in signing bonus like he was asking, but people seemed to think that was the only deal. Uh, hello. Wouldn't a good agent leak a higher number than he wanted?

In reality, he probably could have been had for $9 or $10 million in SB money. Not bad for a quality DE who is under 30.

Line up him, Ferguson, Glover and Ellis and you have a heck of a front four. You could still draft Ware and Spears and get that great rotation that the team has now (or any number of other enticing scenarios). Plus you'd still have that youth movement.

If Dat was the trade bait, draft Odell Thurman in 2. How good has that guy looked this year?

You could still play 3-4 or 4-3 and have a terrific front seven and a nasty nickel pass rush.

How is this? Howard/Ferguson/Ellis with a second line of Spears/Glover/Canty and the LBers being Fujita/James/Thurman/Ware.

Or:
Howard/Ferguson/Glover/Ellis with Spears and Ware rotating in and out.

LB: James/Thurman/Singleton(or Shanle or Fujita or even Ware in certain looks)

Not saying that I am unhappy with what happened, but simply that it wasn't that inconceivable or as dumb as the clowns around here like to try to make it out to be.

Now that scenario, I love!

And you're right... Howard could have signed well below the 16M that everyone kept saying.

Any combination of fronts with a group of guys like: Fergy, Glover, Ellis, Canty, Spears, and Howard would be just killer.

Basically, we'd be trading D. Howard for Coleman. That would be quite the upgrade, IMO.

I really like who we have right now... but I'm telling you; Howard would've been a GREAT addition to our DL. Great.

Add to that his relatively young age and I have mourned not making that trade on more than one occasion (since it became evident that Dat was done).

We're still very good on the DL, and we're only getting better with experience... but Ah, what coulda been.:starspin
 

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Howard will not start over Canty or Spears. Or Ellis. So glad it didnt happen.
 

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We should have made the trade. I was one of those arguing for the trade. However, I didn't want Bledsoe. Looks like I'm 1-1 or .500 on my guesses thus far just like 99% of this board. We are right sometimes and we are wrong sometimes.
 
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