Guyton looks good

[fivetwos]

This is great to hear.

I really don’t think it’s about a lack of effort with him.

The talent has to be there considering draft status and those two items together usually end up working out. He doesn’t need to be All Pro. Just keep Dak on the field.

If Guyton is gonna work out, I’m a bit scared at how good I feel about this team, on paper anyway.

The Micah trade made it possible, but I dislike pointing that out since that was not their intention. Then again we always knew they’d need to stumble over any real success.

 

[RandyOh]

3rd year. Was a developemental project when he was drafted. Year 3 sounds about right for the timing to be right for him to become that player we all hoped for. He was looking good last year in camp until he was tweaked by injury.

No! He was supposed to be an All Pro from the first snap his rookie year!

 

[coult44]

So much hinges on him. And I hate that.

Why, seems to have worked out fine last year even with or without him

 

[FVSTONE]

The few short clips of Guyton i saw he looked fast, and under control. Waiting to hear how he held up in mondays padded practice. Im holding out hope for this young man.

I will not pass judgement on Guyton until the first REAL game of the season!

 

[DUO_CORE]

Athletic and awkward? Polar opposite words. Not possible.

There were some baseball pitchers that were awkward to me; Kent Tekulve, Dan Quisenberry, Tyler Rogers to name a few.

 

[kskboys]

Kenneth Murray...Althetic but awkward.

Big, strong and can run fast and jump high but last season he opten seemed to trip over his own feet.

Oooooo, excellent parallel!!!!!

However, I don't believe he's awkward. Murray's brain simple does not work well enough/fast enough. The perceived awkwardness was his extreme lack of instincts.

 

[kskboys]

There were some baseball pitchers that were awkward to me; Kent Tekulve, Dan Quisenberry, Tyler Rogers to name a few.

Absolutely. However, doesn't mean they were athletic.

 

[DuncanIso]

The few short clips of Guyton i saw he looked fast, and under control. Waiting to hear how he held up in mondays padded practice. Im holding out hope for this young man.

Well...he's had 21 starts.

maybe a few days of work at day camp put him over the top?

 

[kskboys]

Why, seems to have worked out fine last year even with or without him

7-9-1 is not fine

 

[big dog cowboy]

7-9-1 is not fine

Wasn't the offenses fault. #2 in yards and #7 in points should have resulted in many more W's.

 

[kskboys]

Wasn't the offenses fault. #2 in yards and #7 in points should have resulted in many more W's.

Absolutely.

Dak was sacked 31 times. Not horrendous, but a bit high. Our OL was overall pretty decent last season, I agree.

 

[DuncanIso]

Hopes do exist for Guyton to get over his former injuries and improve his pass blocking. Let's see how he manages to do with more time to prove he's ready to retain his job. It's early yet. He's likely to get more time to prove himself to be the starter. If not, other options will be given chances. Whether they step up capably or not remains to be seen. Hopefully, Tyler's injury problems will be resolved.

He can’t block.

 

[DuncanIso]

Absolutely.

Dak was sacked 31 times. Not horrendous, but a bit high. Our OL was overall pretty decent last season, I agree.

PFF says he can’t block.

 

[DarkVader33]

PFF says he can’t block.

He can block. He just isn’t consistent. At least you are. Lol

 

[BKBDAD]

The few short clips of Guyton i saw he looked fast, and under control. Waiting to hear how he held up in mondays padded practice. Im holding out hope for this young man.

I'm wishing him the best as well but he was already limited Tuesday for soreness, the same for Overshown. Two guys who we need to step up big time this season!

 

[conner01]

The few short clips of Guyton i saw he looked fast, and under control. Waiting to hear how he held up in mondays padded practice. Im holding out hope for this young man.

Hopefully he stays healthy and takes a nice step forward in his development. It’s hard to get better on the sideline. First thing is stay healthy. We need him healthy and getting better

 

[kskboys]

I'm wishing him the best as well but he was already limited Tuesday for soreness, the same for Overshown. Two guys who we need to step up big time this season!

That's just normal NFL stuff at this time of the year.

 

[Bigtex67]

Athletic and awkward? Polar opposite words. Not possible.

How about Powerful but not Dexterous?

 

[beware_d-ware]

Athletic and awkward? Polar opposite words. Not possible.

The way I'm seeing it, at least on TV, is that Guyton either doesn't know his technique that well or isn't confident in it. He looks awkward and choppy, because he's thinking while he's playing.

I play golf, and I see people do it with their swings all the time. There's 100 thoughts going through their head every time they take a shot. "Keep your head down", "keep your weight between your feet", "hands ahead of the club"... they try to track everything at once, and then they just awkwardly chunk their 7 iron into the ground.

On every rep he takes, Guyton looks like he's thinking "flat back", "wide base", "left foot back first", stuff like that. And then when he thinks about hand placement on the defender's pads, then Myles Garrett bull rushes him in the chest and all those plans go to hell.

Guyton started 13 college games, and practiced offensive line at D-1 for 2 seasons. He's now a 3rd year NFL vet, but by game reps, he has about as as much experience as a college senior. So iffy technique isn't surprising, but he's got work to do to make it up.

Can he make it up? Does he really want to do the work to make it up? Was he just gonna suck anyway? I don't know the answer. We expected that he was going to be raw, but so far, he's been a lot rawer than we hoped for.

 

[75boyz]

The way I'm seeing it, at least on TV, is that Guyton either doesn't know his technique that well or isn't confident in it. He looks awkward and choppy, because he's thinking while he's playing.

I play golf, and I see people do it with their swings all the time. There's 100 thoughts going through their head every time they take a shot. "Keep your head down", "keep your weight between your feet", "hands ahead of the club"... they try to track everything at once, and then they just awkwardly chunk their 7 iron into the ground.

On every rep he takes, Guyton looks like he's thinking "flat back", "wide base", "left foot back first", stuff like that. And then when he thinks about hand placement on the defender's pads, then Myles Garrett bull rushes him in the chest and all those plans go to hell.

Guyton started 13 college games, and practiced offensive line at D-1 for 2 seasons. He's now a 3rd year NFL vet, but by game reps, he has about as as much experience as a college senior. So iffy technique isn't surprising, but he's got work to do to make it up.

Can he make it up? Does he really want to do the work to make it up? Was he just gonna suck anyway? I don't know the answer. We expected that he was going to be raw, but so far, he's been a lot rawer than we hoped for.

Outstanding post.
And it doesn't take some multi year coaching background to see this stuff.
You don't hafta be a specific oline drafter/evaluator to see everything you pointed out here.
All 22 actually works.
And whatever the word is for beyond raw...
That's Guyton..