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OK, so today the HoF is a based on the arguments of sports "journalists". Guys that do Pre and Post game reporting in Kansas City, a Newspaper guy from Omaha, and stiffs like Peter King. Does anyone else see something wrong with this? We can all point to Cowboys players (Walt Garrison, Cliff Harris, etc, etc) that damnn well should be in the Hall, but never make it, but what about other teams' deserving players?

I despise the Skins as much as anyone. A season where we don't sweep them is a bad season - unless it is a Super Bowl season, lol. But I have to say, Art Monk, of ANY Commanders player, deserves to be in Canton. But it isn't just the Boys and Skins. There seem to be an inordinate amount of players that don't get in that deserve the honor. And why? Because it is a beauty contest where the people doing the voting never got beyond Pop Warner leagues, much less made it into the NFL.

I think it is time that HoF voting should be done by people who really understand what it takes to get to the HoF. Me and you. Just kidding...kind of.

The exclusion of HoF inductees from the voting process is an atrocity that should have long ago been rectified. They should, at the least, have as much say in who their contemporaries are than some stiff from SI, Omaha, or Kansas City that has never been on the field as a player. Give the HoFers a vote.

Also, the HoF represents OUR players. We the fans. We get a partial vote on the fricking Pro Bowl, why do we not have a say in who should be inducted into the HOF? After all, these players represent us, our cities, our teams, our LOYALTIES. How frickin hard would it be to include us in the vote when they already do so for the Pro Bowl?

And finally, if the pansy @$$ wankers, I mean writers/journalists, feel stiffed by this.....too bad. They've been stiffing great players for decades.

So in closing, I feel that the HoF should be a three-way vote. HoF inductees, fans, and journalists. Perhaps that would right some of the aggregious wrongs that have been perpetrated on past deserving players.
 

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Walt Garrison a Hall of Famer?

I love the guy, but no way.

Yes, the current Hall of Famers should have a vote on who joins them.
 

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Keep the fans OUT of it- its partially due to them that the Pro Bowl has become a joke. Only players and coaches.
 

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burmafrd;1360934 said:
Keep the fans OUT of it- its partially due to them that the Pro Bowl has become a joke. Only players and coaches.
Stick the "journalist" back in their cubicles and keep the fans out of it. Let Only HoF players and coaches vote. Those guys who played and coached against them will truely know who the best really were.
 

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Rackat;1360922 said:
OK, so today the HoF is a based on the arguments of sports "journalists". Guys that do Pre and Post game reporting in Kansas City, a Newspaper guy from Omaha, and stiffs like Peter King. Does anyone else see something wrong with this? We can all point to Cowboys players (Walt Garrison, Cliff Harris, etc, etc) that damnn well should be in the Hall, but never make it, but what about other teams' deserving players?

I despise the Skins as much as anyone. A season where we don't sweep them is a bad season - unless it is a Super Bowl season, lol. But I have to say, Art Monk, of ANY Commanders player, deserves to be in Canton. But it isn't just the Boys and Skins. There seem to be an inordinate amount of players that don't get in that deserve the honor. And why? Because it is a beauty contest where the people doing the voting never got beyond Pop Warner leagues, much less made it into the NFL.

I think it is time that HoF voting should be done by people who really understand what it takes to get to the HoF. Me and you. Just kidding...kind of.

The exclusion of HoF inductees from the voting process is an atrocity that should have long ago been rectified. They should, at the least, have as much say in who their contemporaries are than some stiff from SI, Omaha, or Kansas City that has never been on the field as a player. Give the HoFers a vote.

Also, the HoF represents OUR players. We the fans. We get a partial vote on the fricking Pro Bowl, why do we not have a say in who should be inducted into the HOF? After all, these players represent us, our cities, our teams, our LOYALTIES. How frickin hard would it be to include us in the vote when they already do so for the Pro Bowl?

And finally, if the pansy @$$ wankers, I mean writers/journalists, feel stiffed by this.....too bad. They've been stiffing great players for decades.

So in closing, I feel that the HoF should be a three-way vote. HoF inductees, fans, and journalists. Perhaps that would right some of the aggregious wrongs that have been perpetrated on past deserving players.

Not everyone can make the Hall, it's just that simple. You start putting in every single player who has an argument and it takes away from the honor. Walt Garrison? Are you serious? He's not even close to being Hall of Fame worthy. I'm not sure they would let him in if he had a ticket. Come on now. Walt Garrison. Who's next? Tony Hill?
 

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burmafrd;1360934 said:
Keep the fans OUT of it- its partially due to them that the Pro Bowl has become a joke. Only players and coaches.
That's true.

While the fans don't have a direct vote pertaining to the Hall of Fame, I'd argue that they do have influence. The number of times a player makes the Pro Bowl is a factor that the selection committee considers.
 

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OK, so it doesn't take away from the argument further, I threw Walt's name in there because he was the first person to come to mind, not because I think he is deserving of the HoF. Sorry for the confusion.

As for the fan vote, why is it any less valid than a "journalist's" opinion/vote? Any number of these guys that are currently voting have strong biases for their Home Town Team. And if you argue that they are more objective for the vote, provide some evidence. Their opinion is no better, and a lot of times worse, than fans.
 

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That is WHY you take both the "journalists" (gag) and the fans out of it. Players and coaches only. NO ONE ELSE.
 

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burmafrd;1361105 said:
That is WHY you take both the "journalists" (gag) and the fans out of it. Players and coaches only. NO ONE ELSE.

Players and coaches don't get to watch other teams play as much as journalists. They do get to go head to head with players and pour over game tapes, which gives an insight that no journalist can have, but a good journalist will watch more games in a season than a player. Emphasis on good. You can't take the journalists out. Players and coaches definitely should be part of the process.
 
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