Happy Crayton is Gone...

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I keep reading articles insinuating that we regret trading Crayton now that Roy Williams is not here at the #3. I see no reason to panic here.

Crayton and Williams had both reached their ceiling here, and it was not very high. It's not like they were sure-handed concrete players. Plus, they were so damn annoying. They never backed their talk up on the field, and they were just lightening rods for controversy. Certainly not veteran leaders...

I think Harris and Ogletree are really going to surprise some folks out there this year. They're young and hungry to prove something. I'd take that over Crayton any day of the week.
 
Ive never thought he was anything special and am glad we moved on from him and his mouth.
 
Yeah. It's always good to lose productive veterans.
 
UVAwahoos;4057379 said:
I think Harris and Ogletree are really going to surprise some folks out there this year. They're young and hungry to prove something. I'd take that over Crayton any day of the week.

Ogletree has been around long enough that he should have put this "competition" to bed well before now. I just do not see this hunger you speak of. And from the sounds it, neither has Garrett.
 
Idgit;4057382 said:
Yeah. It's always good to lose productive veterans.

But--but--HE LOSTED THE GIANTS PLAYOFF GAME FOR UZ!!
 
I'll have to disagree with this one....

While I didn't like his mouth, he was a good football player, and VERY good as a #3. He'd certainly be starting ahead of our 3rd options at this point.

I am glad to see us developing some young guys, and if any of them work out it will make Crayton an afterthought....but right now he'd be a welcome addition IMO. I'll stop short of rueage, however. ;)
 
tomson75;4057385 said:
I'll have to disagree with this one....

While I didn't like his mouth, he was a good football player, and VERY good as a #3. He'd certainly be starting ahead of our 3rd options at this point.

I am glad to see us developing some young guys, and if any of them work out it will make Crayton an afterthought....but right now he'd be a welcome addition IMO. I'll stop short of rueage, however. ;)

If TO hadn't been cut, it's likely that Austin's potential would go undiscovered.

Harris is talented. He had a great senior year, and I just can't write off his preseason performance as someone playing against second and third team defenses. All those guys are out there trying to prove something, and Harris out-proved (haha) them.
 
UVAwahoos;4057391 said:
If TO hadn't been cut, we never would have found Austin.

Harris is talented. He had a great senior year, and I just can't write off his preseason performance as someone playing against second and third team defenses. All those guys are out there trying to prove something, and Harris out-proved (haha) them.

While I'm stopping short of rueage with Crayton, I'm also going to stop short of anointing Harris. I like what I've seen so far, but he's played one preseason game. It's a wee bit early to proclaim him ready to be a major contributor.
 
Alexander;4057383 said:
Ogletree has been around long enough that he should have put this "competition" to bed well before now. I just do not see this hunger you speak of. And from the sounds it, neither has Garrett.

He has tons of speed, and it's not like he should be limited to only the slot. It's on Garrett to find the right way to use these guys. That's actually something Garrett failed to do as an OC with numerous offensive "weapons" on this team.
 
That's the problem with being really good at what you do, you think you're good enough to move up in the world.

Crayton was a really good #3, who thought he should be a #2.

Alvin Harper was a really good #2 who thought he should be a #1...

And yes, Crayton did single-handedly lose that Giants game with one dropped pass.
 
Alexander;4057384 said:
But--but--HE LOSTED THE GIANTS PLAYOFF GAME FOR UZ!!

No Romo is the one that is blame for the playoff lose not crayton, but the reason we lose that game is because he ran his mouth more than his routes, Goodby all that needs to be said..
 
Crayton surely COULD have won that game had he caught that pass. He did not; so all his talk was not backed up when it mattered the most. Others helped in losing that game.
 
Alexander;4057383 said:
Ogletree has been around long enough that he should have put this "competition" to bed well before now. I just do not see this hunger you speak of. And from the sounds it, neither has Garrett.

You are wrong. The only people making this a competition are the media. Garrett has praised KO actually in his thursday PC he talked at great length about KO and has said that he has come out every day and has gotten more consistent and that is what he wants to see daily. So I don't know where you got that Garrett doesn't see it.
 
alsmith;4057463 said:
No Romo is the one that is blame for the playoff lose not crayton, but the reason we lose that game is because he ran his mouth more than his routes, Goodby all that needs to be said..

you are full of crap. Romo put the ball into the hands of several guys who could not make the catch. A QB cannot make the catch as well as the pass; or didn't you know that?
 
alsmith;4057463 said:
No Romo is the one that is blame for the playoff lose not crayton, but the reason we lose that game is because he ran his mouth more than his routes, Goodby all that needs to be said..

THAT IS LAUGHABLE!!! He did not lose the game, short memory indeed.
 
alsmith;4057463 said:
No Romo is the one that is blame for the playoff lose not crayton, but the reason we lose that game is because he ran his mouth more than his routes, Goodby all that needs to be said..

No, the offensive line is the one to blame for the playoff loss, not Romo or Crayton.
 
I've reversed my position on Crayton a bit.

On the field, he was always an underrated WR here. He was the best route runner on the team, and also had the best hands on the team. I thought the fanbase unfairly pinned the Giants playoff loss on him (as we can already see from some of the responses on this thread), and I thought (and still think) he is superior to Roy Williams.

I'm also glad Dallas cut ties with him.

Off the field in and in the locker room, he's another problem that we don't need. He is a locker room lawyer type that was heavily involved in the Garrett/Romo/Owens fiasco from a few years ago, and he also stirs up needless attention (witness his comments about the Cowboys and Wade Phillips from a few months ago) for no reason whatsoever.

He isn't a Garrett guy, and he doesn't fit what we're trying to do here.

So while I agree that he's a productive player, for me, the other issues outweigh the production.
 

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