Harbaughs plan. walking Dak Prescott

Yobwocs said:
Yup, by miniziming his possessions. 8:21 time of possession in the 2nd half, Harbaughs wanted to walk Dak every time he came to the plate.

He didn't let him swing the bat much. Not a bad plan, just more of a statement as to how it's not the Quarterbacks fault.

If you don't let him throw the ball, Quarterback can do nothing.
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Well, he failed at that, but Dak hit into a couple double plays for him anyway.
 
thunderpimp91 said:
The obsession with finding fault/non fault with Dak is reaching new levels that just leave me concerned about people’s mental health.

Was Dak the primary reason we lost Sunday? No, not even close. Still the offense started the game punt, punt, TD, INT in the 1st half. It’s not as if these guys played well either.
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Fair points...but the defense was NOT NFL quality...and coming on the heels where the defense was NOT NFL quality last season...is alarming. The offense is usually a top 5 offense.

But I think what a lot of us (including me) are forgetting...is Mike McCarty was 13 - 3 for 3 straight seasons...and Dak has always owned the Giants....but the REALITY of this version of the Cowboys is this "Mike McCarthy is gone, Jim Harbaugh is now with the Giants, and Schotty/Parker are going to need time to build this team back to where McCarthy had it...and it might not get there"

And I would not extend Dak past his current contract if the defense is still floundering around the bottom of the league...it would be time to move on...so one has to wonder if we should have brought in this much inexperience with this coaching staff when you consider the amount of money we are paying Dak, CeeDee, Pickens, WIlliams etc...
 
Yobwocs said:
Yup, by miniziming his possessions. 8:21 time of possession in the 2nd half, Harbaughs wanted to walk Dak every time he came to the plate.

He didn't let him swing the bat much. Not a bad plan, just more of a statement as to how it's not the Quarterbacks fault.

If you don't let him throw the ball, Quarterback can do nothing.
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Wow he must be some kind of genius. Why hasn't anyone ever thought of this plan before?
 
Gambit said:
Curious, who is responsible for holding a team from scoring from their own 45?

And who is tasked with holding opposing team's offense from scoring from their own 25?

Also, is the expectation that Dak throw the ball, a dime, into his own breadbasket down field? Or is the guy on a franchise tag who wants to get paid have any responsibility too?

If a teams morale is shot over 1 interception, one where QB was scrambling for his life and throwing off back foot and defender made a fantastic play on ball and great catch, then Id say maybe that team is weak.
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you Dak Bots never run out of excuses
 
Yobwocs said:
Yup, by miniziming his possessions. 8:21 time of possession in the 2nd half, Harbaughs wanted to walk Dak every time he came to the plate.

He didn't let him swing the bat much. Not a bad plan, just more of a statement as to how it's not the Quarterbacks fault.

If you don't let him throw the ball, Quarterback can do nothing.
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That would be everybody's game plan but the only way that works is when you have a terrible defense to play against that's not happening every week I mean don't call it a blueprint that's ridiculous I know that's what people are thinking no that's just how it happened game one because it's not that easy to do ask the Eagles the Cowboys should have beat them in game one last year and they came back from 24 points down you don't get that opportunity much But you're right the time of possession was lopsided and horrible and that is why the Cowboys lost the game but you can't do that to the Cowboys every game you would have to have a terrible defense every game to do that and that won't happen this year or Christian Parker might not make it to Week 8.

I'm just saying I know he's going to improve i'm not saying he's bad or gonna be fired i'm saying Harbaugh got lucky that our defense sucked really bad and that is why his alleged game plan worked out our defense didn't show up they were still at the airport they had to suit up a bunch of fans from the stadium because that's what it looked like a bunch of fans playing defense..
 
Gambit said:
If a teams morale is shot over 1 interception, one where QB was scrambling for his life and throwing off back foot and defender made a fantastic play on ball and great catch, then Id say maybe that team is weak.
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Patently false. The QB didn't have to scramble for his life, he CHOSE to try to go around the defender Steele had already kicked well out to the right. He literally ran directly into the outside defender when he could see the defender \ situation the entire time.

Once he moved from the pocket, there was a huge lane. He could have ran upfield or settled & resumed attempt to find a receiver.

He was running basically parallel to the line of scrimmage. He threw on the run not per se off his back foot.

His job was to throw the ball away at that point. (Well actually that would stop the clock. He'd been better off to take the sack) Rather than lob it the short distance back to the LOS out of bounds, he for some reason tried to throw it out of bounds well down field ... and didn't have the talent to do so.

Yes, the defender made a nice play. BUT the morale breaker is that your vet QB doesn't understand the situation and commits the ultimate mistake by turning it over when at worst you should be punting with little time on the clock.

Even Dak admits "that was the game". This is a direct quote "The interception before half ... that was crucial," Prescott said. "I'm trying to throw the ball away. (Holland) made a hell of a play. I've got to make sure it's out of bounds, though. I was surprised. One I'd want back, obviously."

Dak at least admits the obvious, unlike his defenders who try make up what happened.
 
Yobwocs said:
Yup, by miniziming his possessions. 8:21 time of possession in the 2nd half, Harbaughs wanted to walk Dak every time he came to the plate.

He didn't let him swing the bat much. Not a bad plan, just more of a statement as to how it's not the Quarterbacks fault.

If you don't let him throw the ball, Quarterback can do nothing.
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Being a baseball aficienado, let me correct your attempt of tying baseball to football, while helping the members of this forum understand what on earth you are trying to stay here. There is no specific QB TOP stat, it's actually recognized as a team side of the ball. HC of the Giants gave Dak (and the TEAM) ample opportunity to put up points in the 1st half, by allowing them to come off of the sidelines 4x. In those first 2 times off of the sidelines, Dak (and his team) managed 41 total yards. One one of these 4 times HC of the Giants allowed Dak (and the TEAM) off of the bench, Dak (Dak alone) threw up a balloon that actually brought rain to the fans in NYC. Giants HC let him throw the ball on that INT, and well...you know.

We know the last thing that you are is an actual Dallas Cowboys fan, but at least try to look somewhat smart when trying to describe how/why our QB was shut down in the 2nd half, only being allowed 2 attempts of moving the pigskin to the opposite side of the field.

Here is the reality of how your QB played: TOP in the 1st half was 50/50, The score was 7-7, and Dak's INT directly led to the Giants going up 14-7 at the half, while getting the ball coming out of halftime. And guess what? The Giants scored ont heir first possession out of the half if I am correct. Sooo, you are correct in that Harbaugh sat Dak and the TEAM on the bench almost the entire 2nd half, but he allowed them to play in the first half, and they zero, zip and nada. If that INT doesn't happen, the game could have and would have likely (no pun on who had the INT) had a different result
 
Redsfan_83 said:
Being a baseball aficienado, let me correct your attempt of tying baseball to football, while helping the members of this forum understand what on earth you are trying to stay here. There is no specific QB TOP stat, it's actually recognized as a team side of the ball. HC of the Giants gave Dak (and the TEAM) ample opportunity to put up points in the 1st half, by allowing them to come off of the sidelines 4x. In those first 2 times off of the sidelines, Dak (and his team) managed 41 total yards. One one of these 4 times HC of the Giants allowed Dak (and the TEAM) off of the bench, Dak (Dak alone) threw up a balloon that actually brought rain to the fans in NYC. Giants HC let him throw the ball on that INT, and well...you know.

We know the last thing that you are is an actual Dallas Cowboys fan, but at least try to look somewhat smart when trying to describe how/why our QB was shut down in the 2nd half, only being allowed 2 attempts of moving the pigskin to the opposite side of the field.

Here is the reality of how your QB played: TOP in the 1st half was 50/50, The score was 7-7, and Dak's INT directly led to the Giants going up 14-7 at the half, while getting the ball coming out of halftime. And guess what? The Giants scored ont heir first possession out of the half if I am correct. Sooo, you are correct in that Harbaugh sat Dak and the TEAM on the bench almost the entire 2nd half, but he allowed them to play in the first half, and they zero, zip and nada. If that INT doesn't happen, the game could have and would have likely (no pun on who had the INT) had a different result
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TOP
Giants 36:40
Cowboys 23:20
 
Redsfan_83 said:
We know the last thing that you are is an actual Dallas Cowboys fan, but at least try to look somewhat smart when trying to describe how/why our QB was shut down in the 2nd half, only being allowed 2 attempts of moving the pigskin to the opposite side of the field.
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Some people make a big deal about Dallas "only had 2 possessions in the 2nd half"....but neglect to mention Gnats had only 3, and the third one was to run out the clock.

I know...TOP matters. And WE...couldn't do it.

Before the start of the season people were saying need coaching, and lots of defense. I added in TOP/clock managment. This game is why.
 
Yobwocs said:
Yup, by miniziming his possessions. 8:21 time of possession in the 2nd half, Harbaughs wanted to walk Dak every time he came to the plate.

He didn't let him swing the bat much. Not a bad plan, just more of a statement as to how it's not the Quarterbacks fault.

If you don't let him throw the ball, Quarterback can do nothing.
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Re: the bold--we knew that was the point of the thread the minute we saw who started the thread.

However, as to your hypothesis:

Dak had 34 attempts passing Sunday night.
Last year, he averaged 35.2 attempts per game.

Seems like Dak got about the same # of swings at the plate that he usually gets.
He just didn't do as much with them. I'm sure that's still the defense's fault. and I'm sure you'll dutifully explain how. :laugh:
 
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