Has your opinion of Drew changed?

[big_neil]

Nothing has changed. The Drew Bledsoe we've seen this season is the same player who's been in the league for 10+ years. The good and the bad. When his career is over he'll be described as a QB who can sling it with the best of them in a clean pocket, but a complete mess when forced to improvise dealing with pressure. It's not like Bill Parcells didn't sit at the podium during TC and repeatedly emphasize how important is was for them to protect Bledsoe....or else.

So no. Nothing has changed for me. We're getting exactly what we paid for.

Well said.

 

[kojak]

I never hated the guy and still don't. I just wish he would start making wiser decisions in his QB play. Coming from a veteran some of his choices are starting to look like what you would see from a rookie QB.

4 games left, and there all huge from here on out. What kind of QB play are we going to get from Bledoe? I am hoping for the kind of play we was getting at the first of the season. Our season depends on it!!!!!

 

[Alexander]

Well his rating is currently 86.1, which means this is his 2nd highest rating of his career. To expect more is to be unrealistic. To be disappointed is unfair to Drew.

His rating may be 86.1, but it was significantly higher at the beginning of the season and it is dropping like a rock. By the end of the season, I don't believe it will be nearly as high if he does not stop it with the interceptions.

 

[big_neil]

His rating may be 86.1, but it was significantly higher at the beginning of the season and it is dropping like a rock. By the end of the season, I don't believe it will be nearly as high if he does not stop it with the interceptions.

That's called the law of averages. In 1997, when Drew had his highest rating at 87, he started the season with 8 TDs 0 INT in his first 2 games. Naturally his rating declined in the 2nd half. He was still part of a playoff machine that finished '93 4-0, made the playoffs in '94,'96,'97 and '98, and started '99 6-2.

 

[big_neil]

None of the above. My opinion of what type of QB Bledsoe is hasn't changed though...in fact it's been validated.

You sound like you're talking in womanese.

 

[baj1dallas]

You sound like you're talking in womanese.

You sound like a redneck.

 

[big_neil]

Of course the guy can throw the ball, 40,000 yards or so proves that.

Its just that some QB can buy a little extra time, unfortunatly Drew cannot. That is the difference.

43,000 yards can't be wrong. That's 400 (last) Sundays worth.

 

[big_neil]

You sound like a redneck.

Ooh - we're supposed to pay extra attention to BJ and try to decipher just what he means. Of course, it's impossible to have "none of the above". The domain presented was Universal.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Lol...I think we agree bro. Didn't fit the numbers to the scheme but heres my shot at it.

Hated the signing because I've seen him up here in the NE for years, younger Vinny, expressed my opinion about not liking it. 6-7 games into the season addmitted my mistake and ate my crow. Said I was wrong and all of that.

Now, I'm back to hating the signing again. Puking up my crow, so to speak.

I just don't want a QB that can win ONLY if we give him perfect protection. I'm not asking for a Mike Vick runner type, just someone who can make a play on his own when something goes wrong.

Some QB's can make a play when the pocket collaspes or breaks down, others can't. Some are better at hot reads than others.

Ben Rothenburger (SP?) the Pitt QB can drive the bus, but he can also make a play when one is needed.

I just don't want a QB that needs perfection to be good.

speaking of Mike VIck, aren't his Falcons struggling now? and aren't they too 7-5?

and Ben slang it around against the Bengals, but they lost because they couldn't establish a ground game, and had 4 fumbles

so although you think that the "drew needs a good line in order to succeed", is nonsense, it certainly doesn't seem to be the case on the field, the Oline is hindering what we can do on offense, and it's causing our running game to struggle, which is having a profound impact on Bledsoe, throw in that the Oline isn't pass-protecting worth a damn...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sidestepping looks good when you have some semblance of a pocket. You have to have an area to sidestep too...

good point

the whole pocket just collapses around Bledsoe, and alot of times, when he sidesteps, it's right into the arms of a defender

 

[BAZ]

I didn't like Drew before the season and on a different forum I had pics of him getting sacked. I have changed my view totally. I think he is not as bad as I had him pegged for last season. I hear from a few scores that were at the game that he doesn't read some open passes - he is struggling with the bad line & I can't discount that he either misses open passes or falters in the second part of the season. But he has turned me around and I believe that this season isn't over & and if we protect him next year & keep up the level of D we have this year we can contend for the big one.

 

[baj1dallas]

Ooh - we're supposed to pay extra attention to BJ and try to decipher just what he means. Of course, it's impossible to have "none of the above". The domain presented was Universal.

lol universal my ***. Not even close. It's only all inclusive if you assume everybody thinks exactly like you do, which is obviously not the case. You see, most people realize that you're actually limited to who you can sign by little things like "availability".

 

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

IMO nobody will see their opinion change. The bashers are trying to push through their agenda, as are the fans.

Drew was a retread when we got him and Drew is still a retread. He is a set with our WRs so that is all right. I said so then and I say so now. At neither QB or WR has Dallas aquired a first round pick at either position in the last few years. Tom and Jimmy spent high picks on QBs and Wrs, they after all put points on the board. Drew/Vinnies/Glens wear out as the season progresses.

The revamped D is not puting many points on the board or even pitching any shutouts. Why are any of you surprized when the season starts geting serious we need to win almost every game to make the playoffs as a wild card.

Wining games is certainly on my agenda. To do that Dallas still needs to score more points than the other guys and it isn't happening. If the Gints get some better young WRs to go with their good young QB then Dallas is in deep trouble the next few years.

 

[Martice]

I think my opinion of Drew has been well documented and at one point I decided to layoff and just see how things play out. Instead, I will say what I think bothers me the most about Drew and that is his reaction to pressure. He doesn't respond to pressure well and if you throw in the lack of blocking, it's no wonder he looks like he has to go take a pee when the ball is snapped.

All QB's have to face pressure. It's just another part of the game. I saw in the last few games, Drew still feeling the effects of a previous play that came with pressure. He looks rattled and becomes erratic when he does have time to throw. It's like he sees the ghosts of defensive players from the previous play still coming after him. He is no rookie by a long shot and it disappoints me that he has not learned how to not let the pressure beat him.

I still wonder why with all of his yards, experience and canon of an arm, the PATS decided to go with a youngster that was a drafted extremely late even after Drew came back from injury. They both have similar strengths physically.

I think it is his mental aspect of the game and that aspect of any QB's game is what separates the OK one's from the good and great ones. Forty Thousand yards is a lot of yards but what does it all mean if you don't make the big plays to win under pressure?


Oh and regarding the poll, I didn't like Drew before we got him and I don't trust him now. He has some proving to do and he will have to pass QC's yardage total in 2003 before I take him serious as well as make a few more clutch throws pressure or no pressure.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

To be disappointed is unfair to Drew.

Bawhahhahaa!!!!!!!!!

Somehow I think he'll survive.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You sound like you're talking in womanese.

Double ROFL!

What is 'womanese", anyway?

The over-emotional, nonstop stand-by-my-man love song you've been singing here over Bledsoe night and day?

My bad.

That's not very flattering to women - your manlove tops any school girl crush I've ever seen anyway

 

[Hostile]

Double ROFL!

What is 'womanese", anyway?

The over-emotional, nonstop stand-by-my-man love song you've been singing here over Bledsoe night and day?

My bad.

That's not very flattering to women - your manlove tops any school girl crush I've ever seen anyway

Somone forgot to tell him that when the Q-tip starts hurting he needs to stop pushing.

 

[SuspectCorner]

lol universal my ***. Not even close. It's only all inclusive if you assume everybody thinks exactly like you do, which is obviously not the case. You see, most people realize that you're actually limited to who you can sign by little things like "availability".

ya know, this is your third post in the thread - and you still haven't given an iota of an opinion on bledsoe.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he will have to pass QC's yardage total in 2003 before I take him serious as well as make a few more clutch throws pressure or no pressure.

that's a low standard my man, that's ALL QC had going for him

are you sure that's all you want from Bledsoe? yards?

an 85 and above QB rating, 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio, over 3,000 yards, will do it for me, I mean, we didn't invest that much in Bledsoe, to expect much more than that...

seems to me that both the undecided, the haters, the Bledsoe backers, all, are expecting too much from Bledsoe, or more precisely for the haters, are asking Bledsoe to be a completely different QB, a leopard can't change his spots, so this whining about we want a QB who can make plays with his feet, sidestep the rush, or whatever we're moaning about Bledsoe lacking, is pointless, it aint happening, an exercise in futility my friends

that's just my humble opinion...

 

[TunaFan33]

I think everyone here is missing the BIGGEST of the picture-IF Cortez and Cundiff had made chip shots in 3 of our losses, we would be sitting pretty at 10-2.

If so, would all these "It's all Drew's fault", "Parcells' and Payton's BS playcalling", "Why is our OL stinking up the joint", etc threads would be non-existent here.

With that being said-alot of people seem to forget many of Vineterri's and Vanderjact's clutch kicks.