Have People Softened on Wade?

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A year ago fans were calling for his head. Much of the talk was that Phillips has never been a quality head coach, and never will be. He was too soft, too indecisive, too weak. Now there seems to be no such talk. Do most fans now believe Phillips is capable of winning it all?
 
I think we have warmed up to his defense.
 
I was sold on Wade going into last year. I love that our coach is a defensive minded coach and I absolutely love what he has done with our defense.
 
I have never been a critic of Wade. He's a great defensive coach and a good HC. Honestly, I don't see a lot of better HCs out there. A few but not many and none were available when we were looking for one.

As for "winning it all", no one knows whether or not a HC is "capable" of it until it happens.

Belicheat certainly didn't look like he was "capable" of it when he was the HC in Cleveland.
 
Count me as a former critic. He did a very good job last year. He has this defense, I believe, ready to play at an elite level if they aren't there already.

In addition, he's way better at talent evaluation than I gave him credit for. The man knows what a good lb looks like.

I watched the Oakland game again over the weekend, and Wade was cussing and ripping his headset off towards the end of the game. I also enjoyed what he said after the game, basically that there are no excuses and the result was unacceptable. It was only preseaon but I love his attitude.
 
parcells316;3499377 said:
I watched the Oakland game again over the weekend, and Wade was cussing and ripping his headset off towards the end of the game. I also enjoyed what he said after the game, basically that there are no excuses and the result was unacceptable. It was only preseaon but I love his attitude.

That's interesting. I wish I had seen that. Most of the time the camera pans over to him he has a look on his face like a confused puppy.
 
Stautner;3499366 said:
A year ago fans were calling for his head. Much of the talk was that Phillips has never been a quality head coach, and never will be. He was too soft, too indecisive, too weak. Now there seems to be no such talk. Do most fans now believe Phillips is capable of winning it all?

I was definitely a vocal critic of his work last season. Heck, I had a "Fire Wade Phillips" sig pic!

But it looks to me like he has grown into his role as Cowboys head coach and he looks a lot more comfortable and confident.

He's a great defensive coordinator and I think he's doing a great job on that side of the ball.

If I still had one criticism, I think it would be his skills in game management.

It's my belief that we'd have to be clearly superior to whoever we matched up with for the Super Bowl.

I don't think either Phillips or Garrett would be able to 'coach-up' the team or make the necessary adjustments on gameday if the game called for it.

I think both can coach and impliment their schemes and gameplans but I don't think either has great gameday adjustment abilities.

Overall, I think Phillips is doing a fine job and I believe that he has the team going in the right direction.
 
I actually have more confidence in Wade's D than I do in the offense.

I haven't softened on him but he has definitely earned a good deal of respect.
 
I think Wade is the perfect HC for this team right now.
 
I'm a former critic who has softened on him.

I loved the great win over the eventual champion Saints down in New Orleans, then was thrilled with how they beat the Eagles back to back. The Vikings loss aside, I liked how Wade had the team battling down the stretch and winning some big games, especially the first playoff game. That had a big impact on how I view him (and the rest of the team).

I've always loved Wade's ability as a talent evaluator, especially when it comes to defensive players. I think he has gotten better and more focused as a head coach.

I applaud guys like Chocolate Lab and Adbutcher (I'm sure there are others) who stuck by Wade and never wavered.

Having said that, ya never know what tomorrow brings. I'll be surprised if Wade lets this team end the season struggling down the stretch. I think (and hope) the Cowboys are over that hump. We'll see.
 
Stautner;3499366 said:
A year ago fans were calling for his head. Much of the talk was that Phillips has never been a quality head coach, and never will be. He was too soft, too indecisive, too weak. Now there seems to be no such talk. Do most fans now believe Phillips is capable of winning it all?

Let me check my .sig.

Umm, nope! :laugh2:

I like coaches that are middle of the road. What I mean by that is a coach that can be friendly to players, but only the players who come to work and do their job. When they aren't, become a hard *** drill sargent. (Jimmy Johnson was this way)

I do not believe in treating players the same. A player that works as hard as he can, deserve to be treated better. Players that don't (Ogletree) should be mentally and physical broken down until they either do or quit. The jackwagons!

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There is no doubt Wade can win SuperBowl. It looks like everything is coming to together for him....He has dominante defense, franchise QB, 3 headed monster in backfield, and very talented WR group. It will come down to offensive line. But wade just looks and sounds different in PC...he is confident, makes more jokes and finally has his pulse on the team. We can say same thing about Jerry Jones...few years ago he was the joke of the league at player evaluation....now he & staff drafts well and dallas has become poster child for turning late round picks and undrafted FA into pro bowl players. It all comes down to confidence and as Jimmy Johnson once said....confidence isnt light switch u can just turn on/off...it comes from small incremental steps of success.
 
Stautner;3499407 said:
That's interesting. I wish I had seen that. Most of the time the camera pans over to him he has a look on his face like a confused puppy.
In my opinion, Phillips gets as pissed off as the next guy, but he does not express himself as openly as some would like. There have been many occasions where the camera has caught him displaying a "what the hell" gaze. What troubles some is that he does not always haul off, throw things or cuss someone out afterwards.

That's why I initially did not know if he had the fire necessary to motivate his team to execute properly throughout his first season and into the beginning of his second season. My opinion of him changed at that point.

I began to "see" how his players interacted with him. With the removal of some players from the roster, it because more obvious how well his players respected him as their head coach. And that's always the most important thing a head coach requires from his team.

The motivation has been there for awhile now. My only remaining uncertainty about him centers on if-and-when he can do his part to get his players to execute properly during games.

There is a time-and-place where one must identify average or poor execution being the by-product of player inconsistency and not necessary coaching inefficiency. I believe that milestone was passed last season. Now I'm at the stage where I want the players to do the jobs assigned to them because I'm not leveling my finger at Phillips or his staff as much anymore. Just my two cents.
 
nyc;3499435 said:
Let me check my .sig.

Umm, nope! :laugh2:

I like coaches that are middle of the road. What I mean by that is a coach that can be friendly to players, but only the players who come to work and do their job. When they aren't, become a hard *** drill sargent. (Jimmy Johnson was this way)

I do not believe in treating players the same. A player that works as hard as he can, deserve to be treated better. Players that don't (Ogletree) should be mentally and physical broken down until they either do or quit. The jackwagons!

r-lee-ermey1-1.jpg

I dont see how this could split a locker room.

I see your point, but I dont agree with it. Maybe your bread and butter you might treat different then your plain ole biscuits, but to favor a whole group of guys over another group of guys will lead to half your team quitting on you. No matter the reason for the difference, it will be perceived as personal by the guys that you disfavor. Your teams and fans morale will go down the drain, as your season goes down the drain.

I bet you Phillips gets in Wares face just as much as he got in the face of the guy that was just cut (whoever he may be). He may look all round and soft, but you know the old saying, dont judge a book by its cover.

I had a manager that was like you at one time, she favored a certain clique in the office for whatever reason. When I had enough of her favoritism (and I was not in her clique) I poisoned that office with my attitude and it spread to others that weren't favored. Our production dropped like a rock, Our moral went out the window and for about 6 months or so it was a drag to go to work. Then the head office had had enough of declining revenues and fired the manager for not controlling the office. Things turned around after a few months, it took a while to get the fired managers crew either gone or converted to the "all office employees are equal" mindset. If your favoring someone, your making enemies of the group your not favoring, no matter the business, this is true.
 
Stautner;3499366 said:
A year ago fans were calling for his head. Much of the talk was that Phillips has never been a quality head coach, and never will be. He was too soft, too indecisive, too weak. Now there seems to be no such talk. Do most fans now believe Phillips is capable of winning it all?

I felt and still feel Wade is capable of getting the job done. Nothing has changed for me in terms of Wade as the HC of this team
 
Ashwynn;3499531 said:
I dont see how this could split a locker room.

I see your point, but I dont agree with it. Maybe your bread and butter you might treat different then your plain ole biscuits, but to favor a whole group of guys over another group of guys will lead to half your team quitting on you. No matter the reason for the difference, it will be perceived as personal by the guys that you disfavor. Your teams and fans morale will go down the drain, as your season goes down the drain.

I bet you Phillips gets in Wares face just as much as he got in the face of the guy that was just cut (whoever he may be). He may look all round and soft, but you know the old saying, dont judge a book by its cover.

I had a manager that was like you at one time, she favored a certain clique in the office for whatever reason. When I had enough of her favoritism (and I was not in her clique) I poisoned that office with my attitude and it spread to others that weren't favored. Our production dropped like a rock, Our moral went out the window and for about 6 months or so it was a drag to go to work. Then the head office had had enough of declining revenues and fired the manager for not controlling the office. Things turned around after a few months, it took a while to get the fired managers crew either gone or converted to the "all office employees are equal" mindset. If your favoring someone, your making enemies of the group your not favoring, no matter the business, this is true.

I didn't say favor a clique of players. I said if a man is busting *** and doing his job, there is no need to berate him for not doing it. If you got guys that are half-***ing their work and are making lots of mistakes. You pummel the guy until he cleans it up.

It's all about effort. Those who play and practice at 110% aren't the guys that need to be drilled. The problem is, not everyone does that. Those are the guys that need their tail kicked in. (Ogletree, Roy Williams, Bennett, etc)
 
nyc;3499549 said:
I didn't save favor a clique of players. I said if a man is busting *** and doing his job, there is no need to berate him for not doing it. If you got guys that are half-***ing their work and are making lots of mistakes. You pummel the guy until he cleans it up.

It's all about effort. Those who play and practice at 110% aren't the guys that need to be drilled. The problem is, not everyone does that. Those are the guys that need their tail kicked in. (Ogletree, Roy Williams, Bennett, etc)

ok - I stand corrected. Yeah, if you have a guy thats half ---- it, you fire him.

I dont think theirs a guy on the field thats playing at working though. Maybe one or two, but no where near even 10%, and those guys that are doing it, knows they are on the cut list. So yeah, you have your asthma field and you ostracize the guy till he gets it or quits. I agree with that totally.

So my apologies for the misunderstanding.
 
I always liked Wade. He just had some very unfortunate luck. He was always a winning coach with outstanding defenses, and if that Buffalo team were'nt jobbed, he would have been perceived much differently imo.

I am just glad Jerry did not succumb to the pressures of getting rid of Wade after we were drubbed in Philthy/Minnesota and I think it will pay dividends. Barring injuries we will dominate some teams even with our difficult schedule.
 

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