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Woah that draft just owned us as far as defense goes and I would be surprised if it were something similar to that on draft day. However, I'd be really happy with that outcome because we would be get my top pick, DeCastro and Philly wouldn't have a Fletcher Cox, Barron Coples kind of guy fall to them so I'm fine with that.
 
SDogo;4515800 said:
Jumped in on a GM mock at another board.

This draft just flipped on Dallas IMO

1. IND-Andrew Luck
2. WAS-Robert Griffin III
3. MIN-Matt Kalil
4. CLE-Trent Richardson
5. TB-Morris Claiborne
6. STL-Fletcher Cox
7. JAX-Melvin Ingram
8. MIA-Ryan Tannehill
9. CAR-Dontari Poe
10. BUF-Mark Barron
11. KC-Michael Brockers
12. SEA-Quinton Coples
13. ARZ-Justin Blackmon

14. DAL-

DeCastro
Whitney
Upshaw


No trades in this one.....

This might be a worst case scenario if Dallas is not sold on taking a OG early and can't find a dance partner.

Is this trule a David DeCastro or trade down scenario?

If there is no trade down I'd probably take Whitney.
 
InmanRoshi;4515866 said:
I'm glad I'm reading this stuff so I can resign myself ahead of time that Barron won't be there at 14.

Some flippantly say you can just move DeCastro to center, but the learning curve is steep enough for a rookie being asked to play as a Day 1 starter without asking him to move to a position he's never played as well. Not to mention a position that is typically responsible for the line calls. Bernadeau has never played regular season snaps at center and reportedly looked bad playing the position when the Panthers tried him there in preseason. You're probably looking at another year of Costa at center.

Killa Kowalski will be ready to play Center next year. He was our best interior OL last season, not that that is saying much.
 
I don't see how DeCastro being available is a worst-case scenario. So the team supposedly isn't that high on him. Okay, but the guy still projects to being a great player. That's not exactly a bad deal.
 
SDogo;4515800 said:
Jumped in on a GM mock at another board.

This draft just flipped on Dallas IMO

1. IND-Andrew Luck
2. WAS-Robert Griffin III
3. MIN-Matt Kalil
4. CLE-Trent Richardson
5. TB-Morris Claiborne
6. STL-Fletcher Cox
7. JAX-Melvin Ingram
8. MIA-Ryan Tannehill
9. CAR-Dontari Poe
10. BUF-Mark Barron
11. KC-Michael Brockers
12. SEA-Quinton Coples
13. ARZ-Justin Blackmon

14. DAL-

DeCastro
Whitney
Upshaw


No trades in this one.....

This might be a worst case scenario if Dallas is not sold on taking a OG early and can't find a dance partner.

Is this trule a David DeCastro or trade down scenario?

I would take Decastro or Whitney and wouldnt blink.
I think both will be very good players.

Id lean Decastro here because it fits a need
 
Cowboy Junkie;4515995 said:
I would take Decastro or Whitney and wouldnt blink.
I think both will be very good players.

Id lean Decastro here because it fits a need

I may even take that CB from South Carolina here or could trade down. lots of choices here. this would not be devaststing at all.
Dallas did a good job in free agency. that will go a long way to help this draft
 
Cowboy Junkie;4515997 said:
I may even take that CB from South Carolina here or could trade down. lots of choices here. this would not be devaststing at all.
Dallas did a good job in free agency. that will go a long way to help this draft

Just noticed Kuechly would fall to Dallas. That would be my pick, too great a talent to pass up
 
Cowboy Junkie;4516000 said:
Just noticed Kuechly would fall to Dallas. That would be my pick, too great a talent to pass up

But now you have four ILBs and none of them really can play OLB for us.

You could try and move Carter but I'm not sure there is much of a market for him now after he couldn't get on the field. Everyone probably thinks and perhaps rightly so that he doesn't have the instincts to play pro football. He may have gotten by on the previous level by being faster than everyone and running everything down. That doesn't work in the pro game where one false step frequently makes you toast against the better athletes on this level. We even tried to put him in the nickel packages so he could use his speed and he couldn't execute out there.

I hope it is a case of just having missed TC/PS and not being able to get up to speed in the middle of a rookie season. However, I think there is a very high probability the kid busts and we were wise to bring in Connor and sign him for a few years.

The scout who suggested Carter needs to be fired if this is how it all plays out. There was no need to reach on a player who needed a red shirt year and couldn't be worked out at the Combine.
 
InmanRoshi;4515869 said:
Oh, I'm sorry, he played center in high school. Yeah, then there wouldn't be much adjustment at all.

Hey all I was saying is DeCastro has played the position before, but of course there would be alot of adjustment for him if he made the switch back to center at this level.

With all the last minute shuffling going on in this draft, all we can do is wait and see who will be there.
 
Whitney is a situational pass rusher who has no place on our team. Hightower is better suited to play 4-3 DE for a team like Philly. Ingram can play SILB and SOLB as well as a situational pass rusher at DE or DT. I think he can be better overall than Spencer. He fits here. There are others who fit as well. I like the Poe kid but doubt either him or Ingram are at 14. Which brings us to Decastro if Barron and Cox aren't there. Or a trade down. Gilmore is iffy for us. He really is a zone type guy and his inconsistency scares me. Having said that I think he can play here. There are probably other CBs later on who can play press well for us and that's where I'd go. This is a great draft to trade down if your players aren't there at 14. I'd love a low round first, two seconds and two thirds in this draft.
 
jobberone;4516145 said:
Whitney is a situational pass rusher who has no place on our team. Hightower is better suited to play 4-3 DE for a team like Philly..

I didn't realize the 'Boys had soooo many good pass rushers that a guy with 16.5 sacks in a major conference wasn't needed on the team.
 
RS12;4515812 said:
DeCastro. Next.

A few months ago, this was the dream scenario for a lot of folks (including me) on this board. Barron has become the flavour of the month and suddenly, may be out of reach. Amazing how things change in such short order. I figure by Tuesday, that Kuechly will not only be our pick, but might be moving beyond our reach or may have fallen out of round one completely. Players move up and down this draft like a popcorn fart.:D
 
Phrozen Phil;4516172 said:
A few months ago, this was the dream scenario for a lot of folks (including me) on this board. Barron has become the flavour of the month and suddenly, may be out of reach. Amazing how things change in such short order. I figure by Tuesday, that Kuechly will not only be our pick, but might be moving beyond our reach or may have fallen out of round one completely. Players move up and down this draft like a popcorn fart.:D

Guards and RBs always fall as you approach the draft.

QBs, LTs and pass rushers rise.

What seemed obvious awhile ago now seems questionable. I really wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the 16-18th picks which is around where most of the highest rated interior OL seem to go.

I'd be okay with DeCastro but prefer a trade down if there isn't good value in a pass rusher at that point in the draft. I think there will be good value in the 20s which is where we should trade down towards.
 
InmanRoshi;4515869 said:
Oh, I'm sorry, he played center in high school. Yeah, then there wouldn't be much adjustment at all.

My thought exactly. I can't believe anyone would think there is not an issue assuming he could or would want to go center
 
Eskimo;4516178 said:
Guards and RBs always fall as you approach the draft.

QBs, LTs and pass rushers rise.

What seemed obvious awhile ago now seems questionable. I really wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the 16-18th picks which is around where most of the highest rated interior OL seem to go.

I'd be okay with DeCastro but prefer a trade down if there isn't good value in a pass rusher at that point in the draft. I think there will be good value in the 20s which is where we should trade down towards.

I think a lot of teams are looking to do the same thing, unfortunately. As long as we can get O-Line, secondary, and D-Line help in this draft that can contribute this season, I'll be happy.
 

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