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[Vintage]

So...

Here is the problem.

SW- 100-105 comfortably.... I can get it to go beyond that, but I don't really trust it...
PW- 130 Yards
9 Iron- 140-145 Yards
8 Iron- 155-160 yards
7 Iron- 170 yards
6 Iron- 170 yards
5 Iron- 170-180 Yards

4, 3 Iron (aka about to get replaced with Hybrids) - Don't use

So........why. Why am I not hitting it further as I club up? Why am I leveling off after my 7 Iron?

What am I doing wrong? What can I do to fix it?


Edit: Also, I am hitting them straight... that's not a problem.

 

[Hostile]

It sounds to me like you don't trust your hip turn through the stroke on the longer irons. You're so used to laying up and staying straight on the approach that you're in a comfort zone that doesn't allow you to power through.

 

[peplaw06]

So...

Here is the problem.

SW- 100-105 comfortably.... I can get it to go beyond that, but I don't really trust it...
PW- 130 Yards
9 Iron- 140-145 Yards
8 Iron- 155-160 yards
7 Iron- 170 yards
6 Iron- 170 yards
5 Iron- 170-180 Yards

4, 3 Iron (aka about to get replaced with Hybrids) - Don't use

So........why. Why am I not hitting it further as I club up? Why am I leveling off after my 7 Iron?

What am I doing wrong? What can I do to fix it?


Edit: Also, I am hitting them straight... that's not a problem.

I have that exact same problem minus about 10 yards.

I wish I knew the answer. I've tried placing the ball at different spots relative to my feet in my stance. The most success I had was when I placed it forward in my stance, but it's still not good.

I just can't make consistent solid contact with the 3-5 irons.

 

[Vintage]

Hmmm.... I will pay attention to that tomorrow.

I know for a fact that I do trust hitting my 7-SW.... I have less confidence in my 5 and 6

 

[ologan]

So...

Here is the problem.

SW- 100-105 comfortably.... I can get it to go beyond that, but I don't really trust it...
PW- 130 Yards
9 Iron- 140-145 Yards
8 Iron- 155-160 yards
7 Iron- 170 yards
6 Iron- 170 yards
5 Iron- 170-180 Yards

4, 3 Iron (aka about to get replaced with Hybrids) - Don't use

So........why. Why am I not hitting it further as I club up? Why am I leveling off after my 7 Iron?

What am I doing wrong? What can I do to fix it?


Edit: Also, I am hitting them straight... that's not a problem.

What do you hit your three wood and driver? Just curious.
BTW,I think you will like the hybrids!

 

[Vintage]

I have that exact same problem minus about 10 yards.

I wish I knew the answer. I've tried placing the ball at different spots relative to my feet in my stance. The most success I had was when I placed it forward in my stance, but it's still not good.

I just can't make consistent solid contact with the 3-5 irons.

Yeah, I started to put the ball a little more forward in my stance and the results have been better....


I also have a huge gap between my 3 wood and Driver. I suspect a lot of that has to do with the technology difference between the two clubs though...

 

[Vintage]

What do you hit your three wood and driver? Just curious.
BTW,I think you will like the hybrids!

Depends.

Assuming I am striking the ball reasonably well....

Driver- 250 is probably the average. But if I am playing 18, on the back 9, I start banging them out further. Last round I played, I nutted one out in the 290 range. Playing 18, I usually have a couple of drives in the 280+ range...I am driving the ball better than I did last year (and more importantly, straighter)

3 Wood- Off the tee, 210.


Should be worth noting though, there is a stark difference between the two clubs. My driver is a Ping G5. My 3-Wood is a Nike T40 (Tour Edition) with extra stiff steel shaft. My Ping G5 is extra stiff too, but with graphite.

 

[Nors]

So...

Here is the problem.

SW- 100-105 comfortably.... I can get it to go beyond that, but I don't really trust it...
PW- 130 Yards
9 Iron- 140-145 Yards
8 Iron- 155-160 yards
7 Iron- 170 yards
6 Iron- 170 yards
5 Iron- 170-180 Yards

4, 3 Iron (aka about to get replaced with Hybrids) - Don't use

So........why. Why am I not hitting it further as I club up? Why am I leveling off after my 7 Iron?

What am I doing wrong? What can I do to fix it?


Edit: Also, I am hitting them straight... that's not a problem.

Where are you playing the ball in the stance? Me bets you are playing the ball back and hooding down. By doing that you hit your low irons very far - because you are delofting your club.

You want to play a wedge back and club by club move them forward in stance. IE - Your 3 iron should be played more near your left foot as the length of clubs come into play.

Just a pure guess - you play all your irons from the same stance. Probably mid to back in stance.

 

[Vintage]

Where are you playing the ball in the stance? Me bets you are playing the ball back and hooding down. By doing that you hit your low irons very far - because you are delofting your club.

You want to play a wedge back and club by club move them forward in stance. IE - Your 3 iron should be played more near your left foot as the length of clubs come into play.

Just a pure guess - you play all your irons from the same stance. Probably mid to back in stance.

Actually, yeah, I am playing them from the same stance.... but from the mid to front. I thought this would help get more loft on the ball, since you are striking the ball when the club head is coming on the way up....

 

[Nors]

I was a two handicapper in the day and carry a 8 to this day. And lost of my golf career to trying to be John Daly and hit 340 yard drives.

Fact is you are better off going to a 3/4 easy swing that may cost you 10 yards but gives you true consistency through your clubs.

In my younger days I was hitting shots in from 150 with the then 3 time club champion who was probably 20 times my senior. Long story short he outdid me - He asked me what I was hitting and I showed my 9 iron - He showed his seven.

To this day I back off a club - go at it 3/4 and smooth and aim for center of green. Its all about odds and going after pins can be disastrous when you miss.

 

[Vintage]

I was a two handicapper in the day and carry a 8 to this day. And lost of my golf career to trying to be John Daly and hit 340 yard drives.

Fact is you are better off going to a 3/4 easy swing that may cost you 10 yards but gives you true consistency through your clubs.

In my younger days I was hitting shots in from 150 with the then 3 time club champion who was probably 20 times my senior. Long story short he outdid me - He asked me what I was hitting and I showed my 9 iron - He showed his seven.

To this day I back off a club - go at it 3/4 and smooth and aim for center of green. Its all about odds and going after pins can be disastrous when you miss.

I am not trying to kill the ball.

I was taking a good rhythm swing and repeating it.

That was one thing I was changing this year....I guess I could relax it further, but I am not sure what good it would do. I am hitting the ball straight and unless I catch one thin or fat, they are relatively going the same distance (as in all of my PW shots, etc)

 

[Nors]

Actually, yeah, I am playing them from the same stance.... but from the mid to front. I thought this would help get more loft on the ball, since you are striking the ball when the club head is coming on the way up....

You want to play your low irons mid to back and hit down on the ball. The loft of the club will get the ball up. If you are hitting the ball that far from mid to front is impressive.

I'm not sure if this is epert advice but my long iron play was always my best strength. I liked to play the ball forward and slightly alter my swing on 2,3,4 irons. I carry the club back a little longer and try and catch the ball more flush. You can't scoop long irons - that may another thing to try.

Go get a 1 iron and try to hit it off a tee. Try my longer swing and play it off front foot. You master that and back off to 3 and 4.

 

[Vintage]

You want to play your low irons mid to back and hit down on the ball. The loft of the club will get the ball up. If you are hitting the ball that far from mid to front is impressive.

I'm not sure if this is epert advice but my long iron play was always my best strength. I liked to play the ball forward and slightly alter my swing on 2,3,4 irons. I carry the club back a little longer and try and catch the ball more flush. You can't scoop long irons - that may another thing to try.

Go get a 1 iron and try to hit it off a tee. Try my longer swing and play it off front foot. You master that and back off to 3 and 4.

Well, it gets less impressive when there is no variance among my 5, 6, or 7 iron. Or minimal variance.

Or when I hit a 210-220 3 Wood.

But nothing screams consistency like my driver. I can easily go 240, 200, 250, 270, 280, 200 in a round

 

[Nors]

You can't have the exact same swing and position on all clubs. They are different lengths - if it is working stick to it -

What do you do swing wise in a sand trap? If you have to get a ball up fast and stop it? Same swing as a driver?

 

[Vintage]

You can't have the exact same swing and position on all clubs. They are different lengths - if it is working stick to it -

What do you do swing wise in a sand trap? If you have to get a ball up fast and stop it? Same swing as a driver?

I pick it clean if I can.

I don't have a bunker game. I've never been taught/nor learned. Fortunately, I rarely find a bunker. Maybe once every couple of rounds....

 

[Nors]

What is you weight distribution at stance? 50/50 or weight on your left foot? I still think somehow you are hooding your irons and delofting. Thats a chronic sympton of golfers that hit lower irons forever but get sporadic or no gains with longer irons.

Good luck - you need to alter where you you play your ball in stance or you will never have yardage consistency.

 

[Nors]

I pick it clean if I can.

I don't have a bunker game. I've never been taught/nor learned. Fortunately, I rarely find a bunker. Maybe once every couple of rounds....

I can talk golf all day - picking it clean is a poor plan. My point was that in a bunker - you need to open your stance and literally pick the club staight up and strike a DESCENDING blow behind the ball! It's a swing you don't use with any other club. My point is you don't hit a PW the way you might a 3 iron. Many try same swing stance on all clubs and thats fatal.

 

[Vintage]

You want to play your low irons mid to back and hit down on the ball. The loft of the club will get the ball up. If you are hitting the ball that far from mid to front is impressive.

I'm not sure if this is epert advice but my long iron play was always my best strength. I liked to play the ball forward and slightly alter my swing on 2,3,4 irons. I carry the club back a little longer and try and catch the ball more flush. You can't scoop long irons - that may another thing to try.

Go get a 1 iron and try to hit it off a tee. Try my longer swing and play it off front foot. You master that and back off to 3 and 4.

Wow. Dude, you have no idea how much I love you for this....

I did this today and got noticeable difference between my 5 iron and 7 iron. Additionally, I was hitting my 3 iron and getting a little better distance than my 5 iron........


I've never been able to hit my 3 iron either....


Thanks a ton!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Vintage]

What is you weight distribution at stance? 50/50 or weight on your left foot? I still think somehow you are hooding your irons and delofting. Thats a chronic sympton of golfers that hit lower irons forever but get sporadic or no gains with longer irons.

Good luck - you need to alter where you you play your ball in stance or you will never have yardage consistency.

Started altering it in my stance today....

At stance, when I am hitting my low irons, the weight is shifted a little more on my left foot than right. When I am hitting 7-PW, its more on the right foot. And 5 and 6 iron is about 50-50.

Is that correct?

 

[Nors]

Wow. Dude, you have no idea how much I love you for this....

I did this today and got noticeable difference between my 5 iron and 7 iron. Additionally, I was hitting my 3 iron and getting a little better distance than my 5 iron........


I've never been able to hit my 3 iron either....


Thanks a ton!!!!!!!!!!

No problem - now go practice and experiment - Once you have mastered hitting long irons...... We can talk next lesson. The art of hooking and slicing a shot - I spent a decade+ honing that and ironically the newer clubs are a hinderance to "shotmaking" skills.

And don't get as caught up on weight distribution as ball placement in stance.