Henry and Alabama RB's

[FLCowboyFan]

I know Henry was a very strong RB this year at the college level. But will that transfer to the pros. Look at Ingrham and Richards. They looked to be a lock to do well and were highly drafted and neither have really shown that.

I wonder if the Alabama style under Saban wears these guys out and/or makes them look better than they are. What are your thoughts?

 

[Hardline]

Alabama RBs have been solid in the NFL with the exception of Richardson.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I think the Saints were expecting far more out of Ingram than an average of 639 yards per season when the picked him in the first round. I would have thought coming out of college that he would have been a 1,000 yard back. I can't justify a first round grade on a RB that can't do that is 16 games.

 

[casmith07]

I think the Saints were expecting far more out of Ingram than an average of 639 yards per season when the picked him in the first round. I would have thought coming out of college that he would have been a 1,000 yard back. I can't justify a first round grade on a RB that can't do that is 16 games.

I don't think so. They never throw the football.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Ingram would be a top 5 RB in our system .

 

[coach steele]

What about Eddie Lacy? When not fat, he is a good back.

 

[Alexander]

What about Eddie Lacy? When not fat, he is a good back.

Too fat. Who has time for that?

 

[ghst187]

Saban Alabama RBs have been decent but nothing like they were billed and nothing like they were in college. They play behind a pro OL and run against college level DLs so they roll up crazy yards while getting about 30 carries a game. I can't give any of them a draft grade better than third or fourth round but their stats and hype get them drafted before then...only to disappoint their suitors.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I think the Saints were expecting far more out of Ingram than an average of 639 yards per season when the picked him in the first round. I would have thought coming out of college that he would have been a 1,000 yard back. I can't justify a first round grade on a RB that can't do that is 16 games.

Of course Saints fans expected more, but realistically there was a reason Ingram was picked where he was. He expected to go much higher, but fell like a ton of bricks, so I think most fans of other teams aren't surprised by his lack of success.

I would say that there really is no comparison between Ingram and Henry. Ingram is 5-10 215 (He definitely weighs more) and Henry is 6'2 245. Jmo, but if Henry doesn't suffer from Lacy's lack of discipline, he'll be the best Alabama RB out of the group. May not say much, but he should be well worth a 2nd rounder.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

Of course Saints fans expected more, but realistically there was a reason Ingram was picked where he was. He expected to go much higher, but fell like a ton of bricks, so I think most fans of other teams aren't surprised by his lack of success.

I would say that there really is no comparison between Ingram and Henry. Ingram is 5-10 215 (He definitely weighs more) and Henry is 6'2 245. Jmo, but if Henry doesn't suffer from Lacy's lack of discipline, he'll be the best Alabama RB out of the group. May not say much, but he should be well worth a 2nd rounder.

I could see us taking him if he falls to us in the 2nd but I wouldn't move up to get him. The stats point is a good one. He is a much larger guy.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I could see us taking him if he falls to us in the 2nd but I wouldn't move up to get him. The stats point is a good one. He is a much larger guy.

I wouldn't move up either, maybe if he runs a sub 4.5 40, but I think he runs in the low 4.5s, like all the other Alabama RBs

 

[Silver N Blue]

I know Henry was a very strong RB this year at the college level. But will that transfer to the pros. Look at Ingrham and Richards. They looked to be a lock to do well and were highly drafted and neither have really shown that.

I wonder if the Alabama style under Saban wears these guys out and/or makes them look better than they are. What are your thoughts?

in a nutshell over hyped and over rated either hurt, lazy, and just plain can't produce

 

[kazzd58]

I wouldn't move up either, maybe if he runs a sub 4.5 40, but I think he runs in the low 4.5s, like all the other Alabama RBs

the guy hardly ever gets caught from behind and he be out running angles at times from dbs... he may be faster than that 4.5 and based off the eye test and plus even n the nfl it aint always about getting to the hole super fast u got to have some patience and press the hole to allow it to develop so a rb can bust those long gains.. and that's what I think people are missing from henry's game he can pass block which is a big plus with us .. and he don't seem to get tired the more carries he get I think he'd be a really good fit with us honestly

 

[jazzcat22]

Hard to tell with any player at any position a good part of the time.
Alabama hasn't had a decent QB since Broadway Joe, it seems. What was the qustion this year, who was the last Alabama QB to win a game, or was it come off the bench to win a game when McCarron won with the Bengals. Jeff Rutledge, and the was in the what, 80's? I can't recall right now.

Heisman Trophy winners, don't seem to have great NFL careers IIRC, especially at RB's.

But yet you never know what will happen. Mo was considered the best CB in NCAA, but we got the unfortunate deal of that.
GB got the Tony Mandrich deal of a lifetime, after winning their last game of 1988, giving them the 2nd pick and us the 1st to get Troy.

All luck of the draft and how things fall.
In 1990, Jimmy wanted Lamar Lathon at LB, but was selected before he could work a trade, then he traded up to get James Francis at LB, but was taken right before they picked. So he says, well, we need a RB so we will just take Emmitt. How did that work out? LOL. Luckily that trade got us before the giants I think, as they too needed a RB. They selected Rodney Hampton IIRC.

Some of the things I read about Henry had me backing off a bit as I been saying get him in the 2nd round. But I think he can work on those things, if we had a capable RB's coach. I would not complain a bit if we took him in the 2nd round.

 

[tyke1doe]

I know Henry was a very strong RB this year at the college level. But will that transfer to the pros. Look at Ingrham and Richards. They looked to be a lock to do well and were highly drafted and neither have really shown that.

I wonder if the Alabama style under Saban wears these guys out and/or makes them look better than they are. What are your thoughts?

It really doesn't have anything to do with Alabama's scheme. If anything, the scheme should help Alabama running backs.

The problems are unique to the player. Ingram is always hurt, and it didn't benefit him to be drafted by the Saints - a passing team.

Trent Richardson was a bowling ball with no vision.

Henry, I have my questions about, but he'll need to get with the right team.

 

[tyke1doe]

All luck of the draft and how things fall.
In 1990, Jimmy wanted Lamar Lathon at LB, but was selected before he could work a trade, then he traded up to get James Francis at LB, but was taken right before they picked. So he says, well, we need a RB so we will just take Emmitt. How did that work out? LOL. Luckily that trade got us before the giants I think, as they too needed a RB. They selected Rodney Hampton IIRC.

The Cowboys wanted James Francis but couldn't swing a trade with Cincinnati (#12), who took Francis. I don't know whether Lathon (#15 to Houston) was on their radar screen after that - though you may be correct.

But the Cowboys traded with Pittsburgh at #17 with the specific purpose of getting Emmitt Smith. They had to jump the Falcons at #20 and the Packers at #19 - both of whom took running backs.

If I recall correctly, the Falcons really wanted Emmitt. Although Jimmy was focused on defense, he wanted a running back also because Terrance Flager - who the Cowboys traded for the prior year - was not going to be the back going forward.

How history would have been different had Jimmy waited at #20 for the next best player. How history would have been different if the Bengals had traded with us so we could pick James Francis.

Whew!

 

[texbumthelife]

Yeldon looked pretty good this season.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

It really doesn't have anything to do with Alabama's scheme. If anything, the scheme should help Alabama running backs.

The problems are unique to the player. Ingram is always hurt, and it didn't benefit him to be drafted by the Saints - a passing team.

Trent Richardson was a bowling ball with no vision.

Henry, I have my questions about, but he'll need to get with the right team.

My thing is Ingram (5-9) and Richardson (5-9) are both short and fat. Lacy is not as short but just as fat. Henry is listed at 6'3, but is likely only 6'2, so I think he carries his weight much better than those three.

I'd be interested to hear what his strength and conditioning coach have to say about him though.

 

[MagicMan]

I think mostly Alabama RBs are overrated but believe Henry downhill running style would be awesome with our offensive line. No dancing and prancing around, just one cut and up field you go. Also has the power to break an initial tackle and great for 3rd and short plays. He is not a first round pick but will probably go in the 2nd, although I think Dallas high 2nd pick is too soon. If we could get another 2nd, he would be my pick. We already have McFadden, Dunbar to supply the quick and shifty style.

He also is a BIIIGGG Cowboys fan and wants to play here.

 

[egn22]

I think he's gonna really surprise people at the combine. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we took him in the 2nd round