Henry is an example of WHAT happens

burmafrd

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when you try and rush someone back into action without letting them heal fully.
A groin injury is something that SHOULD not be rushed- and guess what?
One of the CRITICAL members of our D will not be able to play fully for another week or two- JUST when we need them. Henry should have been held back for another week- got him ready for THIS game= where he would be badly needed- instead of putzing around and aggravating it. JUST PLAIN DUMB.
 

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Burmafrd,
I couldn't agree more. The sad thing is Parcells won't even admit it he sometimes rushes people back. He'll say, "well, everyone heals differently or something like that." The fact is now this groin issue will linger.....
 

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BP doesn't seem to rush guys back. He wants guys to know the difference between being hurt and being injured. Players have to play hurt -- they shouldn't play injured.

Guess what -- groin injuries linger. You know what makes them heal completely? An entire off-season.
 

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So Because He Has Reagrivated His Injury It's Because We Rushed Him Back?
 

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Parcells rushed him back too soon and now it’s gonna be a problem the rest of the season. Very upsetting.
 

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Maybe Henry rushed himself back to quickly. Anyone ever consider that? I remember him telling the media after he got injured in the Arizona, he would be ready for the philly game.

Maybe he stuck his foot in his mouth too quickly. Parcells goes by what the trainer tells him, or at least that is my impression when listening to his PC's. He won't play a player until they are released and cleared to practice by the trainers.
 

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This is the most ******** statement I have ever heard. BP did not rush Henry back. Good Lord guys get a grip.

Jon
 

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They blamed Bill Parcells for Stephen Peterman blowing out an ACL because didn't consider a water cramp an important enough injury to sit out an entire game. It doesn't surprise me they are trying to pin this on them. The fact that they have absolutely any idea about what they are talking about is completely irrelevant, they somehow KNOW.
 

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I am amazed at how little you guys know about Parcells. Do you listen to the press conferences? Do you hear the player interviews? Really, get informed. If you pay attention, you will hear injured players talk about how Parcells is on them to get healthy, about milking it. How Parcells down plays an injury or just ignores it. How about Billy saying it was good to get cut so he could get healthy on his time and not be rushed back and it not heal correctly. Parcells rushed back Henry too soon.
 

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conner01 said:
So Because He Has Reagrivated His Injury It's Because We Rushed Him Back?

I would agree that this is very likely to be the case. However, I would suggest that Henry's groin injury is likely severe enough that the healing time would be about 2-3 months (just personal clinical experience based on his reaction during the game).

I think the key for Henry is going through the appropriate rehab to correct any biomechanical deficiencies (usually muscle and flexibility imbalances) that have led to his condiiton. These injuries if allowed to go through repeated aggravations during the healing phase do tend to become chronic.
 

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Everlastingxxx said:
I am amazed at how little you guys know about Parcells. Do you listen to the press conferences? Do you hear the player interviews? Really, get informed.


I guess you must have missed the PC where he said he wouldn't activate Crayton (even though he's practicing with the team) until he's certain he's 100% ready to go. And missed the parts about how Julius practicing with the team full speed with the sprained ankle, but still rested him until after the bye ... and even then, gave MB3 the workload on Julius first game back.

And did you mind last year when Parcells "rushed" Julius back right into the starting lineup and a heavy workload after the broken collar bone? Those collarbones have a way of rebreaking (ask Charles Rogers). I don't remember anyone complaining. I must have missed those posts. Maybe I need to get informed.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
I guess you must have missed the PC where he said he wouldn't activate Crayton (even though he's practicing with the team) until he's certain he's 100% ready to go. And missed the parts about how Julius practicing with the team full speed with the sprained ankle, but still rested him until after the bye ... and even then, gave MB3 the workload on Julius first game back.

And did you mind last year when Parcells "rushed" Julius back right into the starting lineup and a heavy workload after the broken collar bone? Those collarbones have a way of rebreaking (ask Charles Rogers). I don't remember anyone complaining. I must have missed those posts. Maybe I need to get informed.

I think with the cases you have mentioned, he has done well with them. Henry was rushed back to practice too soon. Now Parcells is all knowing, surely he knows how long it would take for Henry to be 100%. He did not. Maybe because he does not know the player well enough. I don’t know.
 

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Everlastingxxx said:
I think with the cases you have mentioned, he has done well with them. Henry was rushed back to practice too soon. Now Parcells is all knowing, surely he knows how long it would take for Henry to be 100%. He did not.

Oh, you made it sound like Parcells has a universal policy of rushing players back, but then you backtrack and say Parcells has done a good job of certain players and others not. Hmmm ... it makes it sound like you really don't know the policy, you just like to use hindsight.

I don't know if Parcells is all knowing, but you certainly seem to be. You know exactly when a player is and isn't ready to come back from injury, despite the fact that you don't sit in the trainer meetings, don't watch them in practice, have no idea of the severity of the injury. You, obviously, knew it was too soon to bring Henry. So here's your chance to provide us with your insights agan.

How long do we sit Crayton? Is Parcells rushing Crayton? Does he need to sit out this week? Next week? Do we need to sit him out all season? Try your luck at foresight, instead of constant hindsight. Its nowhere near as easy.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Oh, you made it sound like Parcells has a universal policy of rushing players back, but then you backtrack and say Parcells has done a good job of certain players and others not. Hmmm ... it makes it sound like you really don't know the policy, you just like to use hindsight.

I don't know if Parcells is all knowing, but you certainly seem to be. You know exactly when a player is and isn't ready to come back from injury, despite the fact that you don't sit in the trainer meetings, don't watch them in practice, have no idea of the severity of the injury. You, obviously, knew it was too soon to bring Henry. So here's your chance to provide us with your insights agan.

How long do we sit Crayton? Is Parcells rushing Crayton? Does he need to sit out this week? Next week? Do we need to sit him out all season? We need your expertise.

Pay me 4 mil a year to watch over the players and i’ll be sure they are taken care of. Don’t come attacking me dude. Don’t try that bully additude you use here with me. My point is that Parcells does push players to get healthier sooner rather than later (any good coach does that). But this time i think it might have been too soon. Pretty simple, if you wanna fight with someone, go wrestle with a pig.
 

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Everlastingxxx said:
I am amazed at how little you guys know about Parcells. Do you listen to the press conferences? Do you hear the player interviews? Really, get informed. If you pay attention, you will hear injured players talk about how Parcells is on them to get healthy, about milking it.

Sounds like someone was looking for a fight to me.

All I asked was for your expertise on Crayton. You didn't give me your answer. How long do we sit him? I want an exact time table.
 

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The only thing I could see blaming Parcells in this matter would be this. Henry should not of been in the game at the time he got injured. We were easily winning the game 34-13 in the 4th quarter when he went down.

As far as rushing players back. I know he wants Henry in the games, but I don't think he is trying to rush him back. At this point he isn't even talking to the trainers reguarding Henry. They will let him know when he is ready to go. That is what I get from the PC's.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Sounds like someone was looking for a fight to me.

All I asked was for your expertise on Crayton. You didn't give me your answer. How long do we sit him? I want an exact time table.

No not me. I’m a lover not a fighter. :D

Crayton, good god...i don’t know. I personally thought the Denver game would be too soon. Crayton said he was 90%. I think he should play this week. Also, I didn’t like seeing Henry in the Detroit game. The few plays i saw him, he looked like he had no business being out there.
 

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