Here is the one thing that has me flummoxed about Jerry

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
 

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I think he was a back up plan to Dak and possibly leverage in Dak negotiations.

I also think once he leaves, he gives the Cowboys a very good chance to land a comp pick that replaces that 4th rounder they lost.

Honestly I don't think it was a bad move by Jerry.
 

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Very strange. I’ve always wondered this as well. I’m fine with letting Dak go and giving the kid a shot. He was a top pick for a reason. Only thing is he seems to be made of glass. He and Love are similar coming out
 

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games
Lance is a possible franchise QB of the future. Rush isn't.
 

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
I’m still asking this question.
 

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Leverage is all I can think of :huh:
It's possible knowing Jerry, but I'm not sure. Throw away a 4th just for leverage in Dak's contract negotiation? That doesn't make much sense. It especially looks stupid now given Dak's choking yet again.

Maybe he was a fan of Lance and wanted to see if he could be turned into a good backup or a decent enough QB to fetch a better trade later. I guess he could be speculation into moving on from Dak. They'd be better off drafting a QB in the first, but Jerry loves him some projects.
 
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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
Develop him and flip him for a higher pick. He was never supposed to play, other than preseason to showcase him.

That was the plan
 

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I think he was a back up plan to Dak and possibly leverage in Dak negotiations.

I also think once he leaves, he gives the Cowboys a very good chance to land a comp pick that replaces that 4th rounder they lost.

Honestly I don't think it was a bad move by Jerry.
I am not saying it's a bad move.

Just a peculiar one.
 

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
I think he thought he could flip him for a higher draft pick like what happened with Jimmy g
 

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Develop him and flip him for a higher pick. He was never supposed to play, other than preseason to showcase him.

That was the plan
If he never plays how can you develop him and flip him for a higher pick?

What team is going to give up a 3rd or higher pick for a QB that Dallas claims they developed but never plays so no one can see if he has made progress?

Or maybe they think someone will get a QB injury along the way and get desperate? I could see that.
 
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If he never plays how can you develop him and flip him for a higher pick?

What team is going to give up a 3rd or higher pick for a QB that Dallas claims they developed but never plays so no one can see if he has made progress?

Or maybe they think someone will get a QB injury along the way and get desperate? I could see that.
There have been some examples of able who play lights out in preseason and the team is able to trade him to a desperate team

The Green Bay kid to Seattle comes to mind. Mike Flynn I believe

I'm not saying it's a great strategy, but it's the one that makes the most Sense

By the way, I'm ready to burn it all down. Draft a QB high and put him in a competition with Lance. You cannot pay Dak $60M A year
 

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It's possible knowing Jerry, but I'm not sure. Throw away a 4th just for leverage in Dak's contract negotiation? That doesn't make much sense. It especially looks stupid now given Dak's choking yet again.

Maybe he was a fan of Lance and wanted to see if he could be turned into a good backup or a decent enough QB to fetch a better trade later. I guess he could be speculation into moving on from Dak. They'd be better off drafting a QB in the first, but Jerry loves him some projects.
Problem is Dallas only has one year to develop and showcase him before he is due another contract. I’m not sure anyone will trade for him in that timeframe. They will simply wait for his release. He is going to be an expensive backup to a very expensive starter. Not much of this makes sense…….
 

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
I don't see why people are stumped by this.

Rush, is limited physically, but has the experience, trust and the history with the team they felt was best to stick with for this season. Conversely, Lance has the athleticism to be more than Rush, but started from scratch without training camp, and with no history with the team.

Lance will have the benefit of starting from day one with the team next season, and will have the benefit of training camp & preseason. If he isn't the primary backup next year, then we should ask questions.
 

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Problem is Dallas only has one year to develop and showcase him before he is due another contract. I’m not sure anyone will trade for him in that timeframe. They will simply wait for his release. He is going to be an expensive backup to a very expensive starter. Not much of this makes sense…….
The only way it makes any sense whatsoever is that if all of Jerry's words are a lie and he lost faith in Dak and this was Dak's last chance. I don't believe that though. He loves him to Choke Prescott. It was a very weird move.
 

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I don't see why people are stumped by this.

Rush, is limited physically, but has the experience, trust and the history with the team they felt was best to stick with for this season. Conversely, Lance has the athleticism to be more than Rush, but started from scratch without training camp, and with no history with the team.

Lance will have the benefit of starting from day one with the team next season, and will have the benefit of training camp & preseason. If he isn't the primary backup next year, then we should ask questions.
To trade a 4th for what is essentially a 1 year backup is silly though.
 

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There have been some examples of able who play lights out in preseason and the team is able to trade him to a desperate team

The Green Bay kid to Seattle comes to mind. Mike Flynn I believe

I'm not saying it's a great strategy, but it's the one that makes the most Sense

By the way, I'm ready to burn it all down. Draft a QB high and put him in a competition with Lance. You cannot pay Dak $60M A year
Flynn was a FA and signed in Seattle. They didn't make him the starter, they brought him and had a competition for the job and he lost it to Russell Wilson.
 

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I still can't figure out what Jerry's motivation was in acquiring Lance.? They clearly were fine with Rush as the backup as he did his job in 2022 filling in for a few games

So why acquire him? He didn't even let McCarthy know what he was doing. And while a fourth round pick isn't that valuable, it's still a decent enough pick to give up.

So what was the plan? You were just looking for a better backup? Or were you thinking you were giving yourself a safety net in case Dak scuffled?
Jerry feels old and left out and wanted everyone to know he's still "Wildcat Jerry" or whatever. I don't think there's much more to it than that.
 

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It's possible knowing Jerry, but I'm not sure. Throw away a 4th just for leverage in Dak's contract negotiation? That doesn't make much sense. It especially looks stupid now given Dak's choking yet again.

Maybe he was a fan of Lance and wanted to see if he could be turned into a good backup or a decent enough QB to fetch a better trade later. I guess he could be speculation into moving on from Dak. They'd be better off drafting a QB in the first, but Jerry loves him some projects.
There’s another explanation. Jerry realizes the Cowboys can’t compete with the 49ers so he’s settling for the ego boost if Lance turns out to be a credible NFL QB. It gives him something to boast about over the 49ers.
 
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