Here it is, the play that we lost on in 07

That game had 6 or 8 plays that should have been made but weren't.

3 were on Crayton. Another on an o-lineman w/blatantly stupid personal foul that nullified a first down and put us in trouble deep in our own territory....

In fairness to the Romo critics...one big gaffe was on Tony, missing a wide open T.O.

Owens through the whole game wasn't himself....with high ankle sprain. He didn't compete for balls.

If you watch that game you will see that Romo was for the most part awfully good in that game.
 
The Giants were just unstoppable that year. If they had gotten blown out the next week at GB then I'd have been more upset but nope...not even Favre or Brady/Belichick could stop them. Nothing we could have done about it.
 
T-RO said:
That game had 6 or 8 plays that should have been made but weren't.

3 were on Crayton. Another on an o-lineman w/blatantly stupid personal foul that nullified a first down and put us in trouble deep in our own territory....

In fairness to the Romo critics...one big gaffe was on Tony, missing a wide open T.O.

Owens through the whole game wasn't himself....with high ankle sprain. He didn't compete for balls.

If you watch that game you will see that Romo was for the most part awfully good in that game.
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He obviously wasn't great but it's hard to blame him for not winning that game, especially when you see this as the last play of the game.
I always go back to the 1st SB won by Big Ben, it was the worst performance ever by a SB winning QB but guess what, the Steelers won so Big Ben is a champion, as unfair as that is, unfortunately that's the way it goes.
 
Re-watch the game. Romo also missed a wide-open T.O. for a touchdown in the 3rd quarter. That was more devastating than the Crayton dropped pass.

EDIT: regardless, these are team losses. The Giants made more plays.
 
DallasEast said:
The game was lost shortly before halftime. If the defense had done its job then and everything else happened exactly the same (including Crayton's poor effort) until the end of regulation, Dallas would have won and advanced to the NFC Championship game.
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The problem is, if you change what happened before the half, things don't happen exactly the same after that. There's no way to know.
 
Phantom offsides on DeMarcus Ware...easy long TD drive we gave up before halftime..Julius Jones refusal to give Marion Barber a blow in the 2nd half, Jacques Reeves, Patrick Crayton, Anthony Fasano drop....there were TONS of plays/players that lost us this game
 
I remember watching the game that when the Defense let the Giants march down the field right before Halftime and allowed that score, I said to my friend that that may cost us the game right there.
 
Saying that play lost the game is like saying the ground destroyed the Hindenburg. It was way before that.

This thread feels like a Facebook post and you know how those are.

"Casual fans" will point to that play when most of us know better. It was nothing more than a shorter Hail Mary but a Hail Mary none-the-less.

We lost that game on two plays - Crayton and Fasano's drops.

Where Eli was bailed out by Rodney Harrison's dropped INT in the SB (perhaps the easiest since Larry Brown's) we dropped TD passes.

So - one team wins a Super Bowl, one never gets to the next round of the playoffs - but that play certainly wasn't the reason.
 
3rd and 11 and you go to Crayton?. Argghhhh.. What a horrible memory. Said the same thing when I watched that.
 
What some people don't remember (or didn't give much thought):

Dallas leads New York 14-7

47 seconds left in the first half, less than one <expletive> minute.

Giants' ball at their 29-yard line.
  • Eli Manning passes to Amani Toomer. Incomplete. Whew!
  • Manning hits Steve Smith. Jacques Reeves (remember this name) tackles Smith after a 22-yard gain. Ball's on the Dallas 49-yard line now
  • Manning hits Smith for an 11-yard gain. Guess who covering Smith? Yep. Ball's on the Dallas 38-yard line now OH WAIT <expletive>. Guess who yanked on Smith's facemask that play? That's an EXTRA 15-yards. NOW the ball's on the Dallas 23-yard line.
  • Manning passes deep to Plaxico Burress. Ball hits the ground. Whew!
  • Chris Canty bats down Manning's next pass. Maybe Canty should've been playing cornerback.
  • Manning his Kevin Boss for 19 yards. Guess who defending Boss? Well it's not Canty. The Giants have driven the field basically because of Reeves to the Dallas 4-yard line.
  • Zonkers! Manning throws a 4-yard touchdown pass to Toomer with seven freaking seconds still left in the first half.
Extra point ties the game 14-14.

What happens the rest of the game?

Nick Folks kicks a third quarter field goal. Three points.

Brandon Jacobs runs in for a touchdown early in the fourth quarter. Extra point makes that seven points.

It's nine years later but math is the same now as it was then.

If the defense forces a punt that drive, Dallas wins.

If the defense gets a turnover during that drive, Dallas wins.

If the defense holds the Giants' offense to a field goal, Dallas wins.



Football is four quarters. Everything that happens or doesn't happen between the opening kickoff until the final gun is relevant. Try seeing the whole game and not just the SportsCenter highlights.
 
okstateCowboy said:
Re-watch the game. Romo also missed a wide-open T.O. for a touchdown in the 3rd quarter. That was more devastating than the Crayton dropped pass.

EDIT: regardless, these are team losses. The Giants made more plays.
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Your hate--obvious from your sig--is doing all the thinking for you. Yes that was a bad miss on Romo...but we score a TD anyway on that drive if Fasano catches a ball.

The end of game abortion route by Crayton would have been the blatant game winner.
 
Thanks for the reminder.

I vividly recall where I was and what I was doing at that exact moment.

In my apartment, sophomore year of college, standing two feet away from my TV, yelling probably 10-20 obscenities at Crayton.

He had two monumental mistakes. And the worst part was that he was one of the biggest talkers on the team.
 
The only possible defense (which might be lame) was that Crayton route was an option route and Romo was going to throw the ball based on what 25 did since T.O. was in the slot. I think Crayton wanted to run an in or an out pattern to get the first down only because he did that hesitation where the first down marker was at. When 25 didn't go out far enough and was playing the 1st down marker, Romo threw the ball to the endzone which made Crayton hustle to get to the endzone because he would have beaten both defenders.

It is easy to say that if Crayton ran full speed from the beginning he would of gotten the TD but if he would of did that, 25 would have probably followed him from the snap since T.O. was doubled also.
 
That game was lost when TO went down with a high ankle sprain against Carolina on Dec 22, 07. I remember thinking in the first quarter against the Giants, why aren't we doing what we do? And then I realized, it was because we couldn't. TO was limited by injury. And everybody else sucked except maybe Witten.

The good news is..........we've already proven this season we can win football games without Dez. And Dez is perfectly healthy anyway. And our receivers are much better today than in 07. So is the OL. So is the running game. We have Zeke.

So we're good.

Feel free to delete this post at anytime now.
 
ChldsPlay said:
The problem is, if you change what happened before the half, things don't happen exactly the same after that. There's no way to know.
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You can apply that principle to everything. The expectation in every game is that your team--coaches and players--will do their jobs better than the other teams' coaches and players. That didn't happen that game but the shortcomings of players some people talk about MOST from that game pale in comparison to what the defense didn't accomplish before halftime.
 
Bernard: "I can make that feeling go away if you like"

Delores: "Why would I want that? The pain...their loss...is all I have left of them."
 
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