Here's an interesting Zimmer tidbit

[CowboyJeff]

When was Zimmer's 4-3 defense exposed? The Miami game on Thanksgiving 2003 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 40 points. When did that 4-3 defense recover? Never. Zimmer's Achilles heel is once the current scheme he is using has been exposed, he can never ever get out of the bad matchups facing him. He can’t adjust to what the offense is doing. That's why the Cowboys went 8-13 using Zimmer's 4-3 after the Miami game, giving up a little over a 23 points per game average before Parcells switched to the 3-4 in 2005.

When was Zimmer's 3-4 defense exposed? The New Orleans game right after Thanksgiving 2006 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 42 points. Has the 3-4 defense recovered? Not yet. The Cowboys are 1-1 using Zimmer's 3-4 after the New Orleans game, giving up a little over a 30 point per game average.

When Zimmer’s been exposed, he can't recover.

 

[the kid 05]

are you shocked it took the teams this long to figure it out?

 

[TRUTH87]

:bang2:

 

[nicodywill]

true he's a gonner and everyone's happy maybe he needs to go run a bed and breakfast for a while before he comes back or something football oriented like that

 

[AdamJT13]

The Cowboys are 1-1 using Zimmer's 3-4 after the New Orleans game, giving up a little over a 30 point per game average.

You might want to re-check the score of that Atlanta game.

 

[THUMPER]

You might want to re-check the score of that Atlanta game.

It's 31 points per game including the Saints game, maybe that's what he meant to say.

 

[tunahelper]

When was Zimmer's 4-3 defense exposed? The Miami game on Thanksgiving 2003 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 40 points. When did that 4-3 defense recover? Never. Zimmer's Achilles heel is once the current scheme he is using has been exposed, he can never ever get out of the bad matchups facing him. He can’t adjust to what the offense is doing. That's why the Cowboys went 8-13 using Zimmer's 4-3 after the Miami game, giving up a little over a 23 points per game average before Parcells switched to the 3-4 in 2005.

When was Zimmer's 3-4 defense exposed? The New Orleans game right after Thanksgiving 2006 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 42 points. Has the 3-4 defense recovered? Not yet. The Cowboys are 1-1 using Zimmer's 3-4 after the New Orleans game, giving up a little over a 30 point per game average.

When Zimmer’s been exposed, he can't recover.

I am not a Zimmer apologist, however Parcells escapes without damage for the defense's play.

BP is a complete control freak, yet he isnt directing the defense?

I believe BP has Zimmer under his thumb and the results start with his philosophy of defense.

 

[cowboyed]

I am not a Zimmer apologist, however Parcells escapes without damage for the defense's play.

BP is a complete control freak, yet he isnt directing the defense?

I believe BP has Zimmer under his thumb and the results start with his philosophy of defense.

I agree Zimmer is not the only one to blame. Parcells deserves a full plate of scorn as well.

 

[maxsports]

No way. This is Zimmers defense. Zimmer has never called an aggressive defense Parcells or no Parcells.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Then I suggest we make a change to a DC who can adjust!

 

[RxMan]

How do you propose he make changes when our linebackers can't cover anyone? It's like saying we need to get pressure with our front four. If the players can't do it the scheme means nothing. Parcells definitely has his hands in the defense. Remember his quote about not blitzing? It was 'we die a slower death that way.' Meaning not giving up the big play and making a team sustain drives. The eagles game was a great example of a slow death on those two long drives. I don't think teams have 'figured us out' by the scheme. New Orleans exposed the fact that the LBs can't cover or make any adjustments at all.

 

[notherbob]

Actually, IIRC, back in 2000 Zimmer had implemented an attacking defense designed to get sacks and stop the opponets passing game. It worked, teams did not pass against Dallas, they ran the ball with abandon and didn't need to pass. There were three runners who got over 200 yards against Dallas that year and they went 5-11. Next year he came out with his stop-the-run-at-all-costs-all-the-time defense. I think that's what BP likes about him, he is paranoid about it just like BP. Why not surprise the opponent once in a while with a surprise, especially on obvious passing downs?

BP doesn't like stunts and blitzes either, and I can understand his point - if you have to rely on tricks, your players aren't doing their jobs, for whatever reasons. Either you need to coach them up or get better players. You have to blitz because your basic scheme isn't working. Of course, if you have to blitz, then blitz, but at least do it as a surprise instead of the same old predictable stuff, especially if you're not beating them with the same old stuff - innovate or lose.

 

[RxMan]

Actually, IIRC, back in 2000 Zimmer had implemented an attacking defense designed to get sacks and stop the opponets passing game. It worked, teams did not pass against Dallas, they ran the ball with abandon and didn't need to pass. There were three runners who got over 200 yards against Dallas that year and they went 5-11. Next year he came out with his stop-the-run-at-all-costs-all-the-time defense. I think that's what BP likes about him, he is paranoid about it just like BP. Why not surprise the opponent once in a while with a surprise, especially on obvious passing downs?

BP doesn't like stunts and blitzes either, and I can understand his point - if you have to rely on tricks, your players aren't doing their jobs, for whatever reasons. Either you need to coach them up or get better players. You have to blitz because your basic scheme isn't working. Of course, if you have to blitz, then blitz, but at least do it as a surprise instead of the same old predictable stuff, especially if you're not beating them with the same old stuff - innovate or lose.

I remember well the 'new scheme' in 2000. It was talked up much during the preseason. I was at the opening game that year in Dallas vs. the Eagles. 200+ yards rushing was given up that day and everyone panicked. Good times.

 

[jwhardin]

The slow death approach, just means the off. doesn't get as much time on the field, so they can't score.

 

[Jarv]

I am not a Zimmer apologist, however Parcells escapes without damage for the defense's play.

BP is a complete control freak, yet he isnt directing the defense?

I believe BP has Zimmer under his thumb and the results start with his philosophy of defense.

Agreed 100%...I'm not a big Zimmer fan, but BP needs to take the blame as well as Zimmer. BP is a defensive minded coach, has drafted mainly defensive players with high picks in the last 3-4 drafts and this is what we get ?

BP could have fired Zimmer any time over the last 3-4 years, but choose to keep him for some reason.

I'm sorry folks but Zimmers defense has BP written all over it.

 

[dbair1967]

Agreed 100%...I'm not a big Zimmer fan, but BP needs to take the blame as well as Zimmer. BP is a defensive minded coach, has drafted mainly defensive players with high picks in the last 3-4 drafts and this is what we get ?

BP could have fired Zimmer any time over the last 3-4 years, but choose to keep him for some reason.

I'm sorry folks but Zimmers defense has BP written all over it.

they are both idiots...both need to go

Zimmer had 3 years of mediocrity before Parcells got here too

David

 

[CowboyJeff]

You might want to re-check the score of that Atlanta game.

Yep. that's what I get for doing research after midnight. Zimmer's defense after the Saints game this year has a 1-1 record and have given up an average of 25.5 points over those 2 games.

 

[CowboyJeff]

...BP could have fired Zimmer any time over the last 3-4 years, but choose to keep him for some reason.....

It's the same reason why I can't wait for Stephen to run the team

 

[cowboyed]

No way. This is Zimmers defense. Zimmer has never called an aggressive defense Parcells or no Parcells.

Then why is Parcells implementing some changes on defense. He is also the one that changed to the 3-4 and bestowed it on Zimmer to run who by the way had zero experience.

I am not trying to blindly take up for Zimmer who probably can't adjust his tighty whities let alone the defense but clearly Parcells has been the master puppeteer.

 

[Joe_Fan]

When was Zimmer's 4-3 defense exposed? The Miami game on Thanksgiving 2003 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 40 points. When did that 4-3 defense recover? Never. Zimmer's Achilles heel is once the current scheme he is using has been exposed, he can never ever get out of the bad matchups facing him. He can’t adjust to what the offense is doing. That's why the Cowboys went 8-13 using Zimmer's 4-3 after the Miami game, giving up a little over a 23 points per game average before Parcells switched to the 3-4 in 2005.

When was Zimmer's 3-4 defense exposed? The New Orleans game right after Thanksgiving 2006 in Texas Stadium, when the Cowboys gave up 42 points. Has the 3-4 defense recovered? Not yet. The Cowboys are 1-1 using Zimmer's 3-4 after the New Orleans game, giving up a little over a 30 point per game average.

When Zimmer’s been exposed, he can't recover.

Wow, it took you this long to figure this out about Zimmer?