High Blood Caffeine Levels help Avoidance of Alzheimer’s

[The30YardSlant]

That's only within the first hour or two of consumption. Long-term usage of caffeine actually supports healthy blood pressure levels.

In very moderate doses. Regular coffee, soda and energy drink consumers usually take in between 4-6 times the amount considered to bring about health benefits.

 

[TheSport78]

In very moderate doses. Regular coffee, soda and energy drink consumers usually take in between 4-6 times the amount considered to bring about health benefits.

There's a huge difference between black coffee and soda/energy drinks. Correlation isn't causation. We do know that sugars such as fructose and sucrose are TOXIC, and they are found in most sodas and energy drinks. Those are the true culprits, not caffeine.

 

[vta]

I hate coffee. I drink it every day and I know that if I don't take the time to ween myself off with a mixture of decaf and reg, I will get a massive withdrawal headache. Coffee is the devil.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's good to hear, but you're also only 38. Your risk of high blood pressure increases with age as most things do, and numerous studies have linked heavy caffeine use over time with mild to moderate increases in blood pressure. In small doses, much like alcohol, it can actually help your heart. Most people drink far more than this, though.

Caffeine does increase your blood pressure in the short term as well, though. Take your BP right before and then immediately after a cup of coffee. You'll like see a 10-15 point jump in systolic pressure. Over time, caffeine increases your blood pressure permanently. People with BP that is already high schould avoid coffee for the most part. The majority of heart attacks occur when people are waking up in the mornings when your BP is the highest, and coffee can exasberate the early morning BP spike.

16 ounces of coffee I wouldn't consider a high dose either. I limit myself to that much. It starts my day. I will not drink coffee (even if I missed my morning coffee) after 1pm.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Coffee is a classic "if you don't over do it, it's good" antioxidant.
Red wine too.

Correct. A cup of coffee has known health benefits. Much like many who drink alcohol in excess though, a lot of people take in far too much. In the high doses many Americans consume caffeine can have some pretty bad side effects, including dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, heart palpitations, sleep cycle disturbances (chronic caffeine use is the leading non-natural cause of insomnia), increases in blood pressure and heart rate, increased levels of stress hormone and of course there are the withdrawel symptoms.

 

[TheSport78]

In very moderate doses. Regular coffee, soda and energy drink consumers usually take in between 4-6 times the amount considered to bring about health benefits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dBnniua6-oM#!

Watch this video, man. It definitely opened my eyes.

 

[The30YardSlant]

There's a huge difference between black coffee and soda/energy drinks. Correlation isn't causation. We do know that sugars such as fructose and sucrose are TOXIC, and they are found in most sodas and energy drinks. Those are the true culprits, not caffeine.

Energy drinks are a seperate issue in many ways as they are essentialy crystal meth in a can and about the wost thing legal thing you can put in your body. Along with caffeine they have carcinogens and processed sugars. That being said, the caffeine is part of the issue. Many studies conducted on caffeine use caffeine supplements or other highly concentrated and purified forms, and the results are pretty conclusive that it is bad for you in high doses. Sodas and energy drinks just compound the problem.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Energy drinks are worse than soft drinks. I think they should be tagged as a drug the way alcohol is. Kids DEFINITELY should not be allowed to purchase them.

 

[TheSport78]

Energy drinks are a seperate issue in many ways as they are essentialy crystal meth in a can and about the wost thing legal thing you can put in your body. Along with caffeine they have carcinogens and processed sugars. That being said, the caffeine is part of the issue. Many studies conducted on caffeine use caffeine supplements or other highly concentrated and purified forms, and the results are pretty conclusive that it is bad for you in high doses. Sodas and energy drinks just compound the problem.

I agree but too much of ANYTHING isn't a good thing in my opinion. I think one's caffeine consumption depends on the individual's activity level. I weight train and do high intensity interval training 6x a week and the caffeine has definitely contributed to a better performance level. A 65 year old diabetic wouldn't be able to tolerate those amounts, based on age, disease, and activity level.

 

[Doc50]

This study contributes to compelling evidence for coffee consumption, but it does not isolate the effects of caffeine alone. More studies are obviously needed to understand the exact mechanism of action, and this study was relatively small -- 124 subjects.

Excessive caffeine intake, like the levels found in stimulant drinks, has been shown to be dangerous with regard to hypertension, ischemic renal and cardiac disease, and cardiac arrhythmias. By the way, there is no known supplement that actually increases energy, burns fat, or improves cognition.
What may change from such usage is the user's perception.

The incidence of dementia is growing rapidly with the aging of the population, and research in this area has been increasing aggressively over the past 20 years; expect some new advancements in diagnosis, treatment, and prevention within the next several months.

 

[Reality]

It's terrible when you get hooked on Monster, and when you do not get it, you get a RAGGING headache. I would like to say I have been 47 days sober of Monster and counting.

I actually gave up caffeine completely for many years though I have started consuming it again. I also periodically remove caffeine from my life just to give my body a break from it. The headache periods from lack of caffeine never last more than 2-3 days and are never severe enough to even take anything for them. Then again, I have had regular headaches most of my life so I rarely think about them.

I believe your body adjusts to whatever you consume to help mitigate both the beneficial as well as detrimental effects. Just like your metabolism speeds up or slows down depending on the amount and frequency of food and exercise in your life.

That being said, consuming too much of anything is not good for you.

#reality

 

[The30YardSlant]

16 ounces of coffee I wouldn't consider a high dose either. I limit myself to that much. It starts my day. I will not drink coffee (even if I missed my morning coffee) after 1pm.

I agree, 16 ounces isnt a lot by modern standards. 100-150 mg is where health benefits are the greatest and 200 mg a day is considered a safe dosage without any harmful effects, these numbers equate to roughly 1-2 regular cups of coffee a day (8-16 ounces) depending on the kind in queston.

It is estimated however that 70% of Americans ingest more than the safe dosage on a dailt basis and nearly half take in over 400 mg a day from various sources. One can of Monster energy drink contains nearly 200 mg of caffeine and many of the other soda and energy drinks contain far more.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Energy drinks are worse than soft drinks. I think they should be tagged as a drug the way alcohol is. Kids DEFINITELY should not be allowed to purchase them.

Energy drinks are much worse for your overall health than alcohol. In the next 20 years or so they will be directly linked to cancer, heart disease and a mess of other things, they simply haven't been mainstream long enough for word to really get out. Full blown alcoholism can take decades to do permanent, life-altering damage. I know people who drank 1-2 energy drinks every day and it took only a couple years for them to suffer significant side effects.

 

[rocboy22]

Energy drinks are much worse for your overall health than alcohol. In the next 20 years or so they will be directly linked to cancer, heart disease and a mess of other things, they simply haven't been mainstream long enough for word to really get out. Full blown alcoholism can take decades to do permanent, life-altering damage. I know people who drank 1-2 energy drinks every day and it took only a couple years for them to suffer significant side effects.

I have drank 1 energy drink in my life. It was a Redline, and I was shaking and felt nauseous. At the time I drank it I also had been drinking 20oz of Mountain Dew daily for like 3 years, so I was used to caffeine, I thought. I hardly ever drink soda anymore and that Redline was my first and last energy drink!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Several years ago, someone gave me a Redbull. I took one sip and threw it out. (nasty)

I haven't drank any others and don't have any want / will / need to either.

I used to like Mountain Dew, but never drank it that often. Not sure how I would react to it today since I don't drink any soft drinks really. The only one is probably Root Beer and really only if I'm eating Pizza. (even then, maybe 5% of the time)

 

[YosemiteSam]

I have drank 1 energy drink in my life. It was a Redline, and I was shaking and felt nauseous. At the time I drank it I also had been drinking 20oz of Mountain Dew daily for like 3 years, so I was used to caffeine, I thought. I hardly ever drink soda anymore and that Redline was my first and last energy drink!

I hope you brush your teeth after you drink it. That crap will rot your teeth and quick.

 

[rocboy22]

I hope you brush your teeth after you drink it. That crap will rot your teeth and quick.

What, the Mountain Dew? Stopped drinking it all the time like 5 or 6 years ago. I actually drank the redline when I was in Dallas for the 2006 home opener vs the Commanders.

and I have never had so much as a cavity in my life....very lucky

 

[YosemiteSam]

What, the Mountain Dew? Stopped drinking it all the time like 5 or 6 years ago. I actually drank the redline when I was in Dallas for the 2006 home opener vs the Commanders.

and I have never had so much as a cavity in my life....very lucky

Oh, I guess I stopped reading it before I got to that part. (someone came up to my desk)

 

[TheSport78]

You guys should try Yerba Mate, if you haven't already. Your adrenals love that stuff and you don't crash like you do with other stimulants.

 

[Doc50]

You guys should try Yerba Mate, if you haven't already. Your adrenals love that stuff and you don't crash like you do with other stimulants.

That contains caffeine, theobromine, and theophylline -- all stimulants, and potentially problematic in moderate to high doses.

No significant clinical trials have been performed.