Historic Epic Meltdown

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What a collapse. It all started on our first drive of the 3rd quarter. Up 26-10 we passed it three straight times for a quick three and out, then it became the next 12 out of 14 passes, reminded me of the loss to Detroit several years ago. JG is stubborn, very stubborn. He does not learn from his mistakes. The successful coaches learn from their failures and make the necessary adjustments but not Jason Garrett, he's better then everyone else. This about the 10th epic collapse under his watch ( there may be more) in the same exact fashion. It's the movie Ground Hog Day and it's not a coincidence.

Something I've noticed is when we throw too much in a game the next game we come out and run, run, run even if its not working, almost like our offense is run through media scrutiny. The thing that gets me is the offensive balance in situational moments is bizarre. I'm all for opening this thing up and passing down the field for the lead but when you have a 26-10 lead why not mix in the run to chew the clock and take their spirit? Its not like it wasn't working we were picking up 7 yds a carry. That's not being agressive?

The reason is our game plan was to run to set up the agressive pass and out score them, partly because our defense is atrocious. However our defense showed up in the first half and no adjustment was made at half time to aggressively run the ball and chew the clock. The same thing happened last week against the bears, we came out running the ball strong but fell behind by two scores. At half we should have adjusted and opened it up with downfield throws etc, instead we played a conservative offense came out and ran it twice, failed to convert on third down and then we punted from Chicago's 41 yd line on 4th and 4 down 27-14? Yup, since we said we're committed to running against the bears we ran 6-7 times in a row to open the 4th quarter down 41-14 and ran almost 4 minutes off the clock. Does anyone else see what's happening here? He runs it heavy when we're down 41-14 with 14 minutes left in the game but not when we're up 26-10 wow, pretty weird.

The point is we make zero in-game or halftime adjustments based on how the game is shaping because we are stubborn as a team as Jason Garrett is a man. He is a "stay the course" guy who Refuses to make adjustments, he has zero flexibility in his game planning. Has anyone else noticed this?

He's got two weeks then please show this man the door, he's a fool.
 
brooksey1 said:
JG is stubborn, very stubborn. He does not learn from his mistakes. The successful coaches learn from their failures and make the necessary adjustments but not Jason Garrett, he's better then everyone else.
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He's arrogant and terrible, and a king of deflection. Pride comes before the fall...
 
brooksey1 said:
What a collapse. It all started on our first drive of the 3rd quarter. Up 26-10 we passed it three straight times for a quick three and out, then it became the next 12 out of 14 passes, reminded me of the loss to Detroit several years ago. JG is stubborn, very stubborn. He does not learn from his mistakes. The successful coaches learn from their failures and make the necessary adjustments but not Jason Garrett, he's better then everyone else. This about the 10th epic collapse under his watch ( there may be more) in the same exact fashion. It's the movie Ground Hog Day and it's not a coincidence.

Something I've noticed is when we throw too much in a game the next game we come out and run, run, run even if its not working, almost like our offense is run through media scrutiny. The thing that gets me is the offensive balance in situational moments is bizarre. I'm all for opening this thing up and passing down the field for the lead but when you have a 26-10 lead why not mix in the run to chew the clock and take their spirit? Its not like it wasn't working we were picking up 7 yds a carry. That's not being agressive?

The reason is our game plan was to run to set up the agressive pass and out score them, partly because our defense is atrocious. However our defense showed up in the first half and no adjustment was made at half time to aggressively run the ball and chew the clock. The same thing happened last week against the bears, we came out running the ball strong but fell behind by two scores. At half we should have adjusted and opened it up with downfield throws etc, instead we played a conservative offense came out and ran it twice, failed to convert on third down and then we punted from Chicago's 41 yd line on 4th and 4 down 27-14? Yup, since we said we're committed to running against the bears we ran 6-7 times in a row to open the 4th quarter down 41-14 and ran almost 4 minutes off the clock. Does anyone else see what's happening here? He runs it heavy when we're down 41-14 with 14 minutes left in the game but not when we're up 26-10 wow, pretty weird.

The point is we make zero in-game or halftime adjustments based on how the game is shaping because we are stubborn as a team as Jason Garrett is a man. He is a "stay the course" guy who Refuses to make adjustments, he has zero flexibility in his game planning. Has anyone else noticed this?

He's got two weeks then please show this man the door, he's a fool.
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I couldn't agree with u more.
 
BIGDen said:
I couldn't agree with u more.
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Funny how people want to talk about the Romo audible/interception but it was a 5 point games at that point... the damage was already done. JG/Callahan put the QB in a position to have to be perfect and he couldn't do it. The play calling created the collapse. Romo did not cause this, he just played his part in the final 5 minutes to seal the deal.
 
Romo said himself that they audible from a run to a pass anywhere from 3-6 times a game when the defense gives a look they dont like. So how many times did Romo adudible from a first down run in this game and throw an incomplete - which then caused the play call to be pass on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 10 - There is the likely reason for all the 3 and outs this team has.

Other teams still run when they bring a safety up. Teams run on us when we play run defense. Its not impossible to have a big run play when the other team brings an xtra guy up.

How many times do you see a RB get through a wall of players and run 60 yards for a TD when the other team sells out to stop run in short yardage.

I would bet that a lot of the cowboys 3 and outs come after romo has changed a run play to pass.
 
A loss at Washington coupled with a Philly win over the Bears, and our season is officially over.
 
I have not seen Hostile post here as much - I think he may even realize that Garrett has to go.
 
Eddie said:
A loss at Washington coupled with a Philly win over the Bears, and our season is officially over.
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It seems like you're saying this team won't win the Super Bowl this year.

You don't know that. What are the winning lottery numbers this week?
 
The scariest thing about this epic meltdown, as opposed to some of the other ones, is that they made the EXACT same mistakes as they did against Detroit a couple of years ago. Failed to run routes properly, couldn't connect on third down, and, most importantly, completely abandoned the running game in the second half with a big lead. Unbelievable.
 
You need to ask yourself, what did we really lose yesterday? Not a thing, if you're being honest with yourself. This team blows. I don't know what watching them get violated in the playoffs accomplishes.
 
Risen Star said:
You need to ask yourself, what did we really lose yesterday? Not a thing, if you're being honest with yourself. This team blows. I don't know what watching them get violated in the playoffs accomplishes.
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I had decided i was not going to watch the game. But then i finished everything i had set about to do this weekend early and with the eagles losing and nothing else going on i changed my mind and watched the game.

My original plan was just to check the scoreboard to find out if they won or lost without putting myself through any aignst.

But then i called an audible and decided to watch. Now, Like Tony, i am regretting not sticking with the original plan.
 
Garrett is a buffoon.. Never liked the signing of this guy. Not since day one. Callahan? I saw enough in Oakland to realize ..ummm .. NO...

Sorry, I am hoping for two more meltdowns/blowouts for this team. I don't want Skeletor to have any glimmer of hope for "next season" with this present coaching staff and some of the players..

I want it to be down right ugly and impossible for Skeletor to not have to make changes.

Maybe if they lose the next two, badly I might add. Maybe, just maybe a light will go on in that moron's head.
 
Garrett has shown, over the course of his reign here, that he has a complete lack of problem solving skills.

In the professional world this is usually seen in the people who think every answer is in a book if they just look for it long and hard enough.

He's not going to find the answer any time soon and even if he did he doesn't have the will power to overcome Jerry.
 
Hoov said:
Romo said himself that they audible from a run to a pass anywhere from 3-6 times a game when the defense gives a look they dont like. So how many times did Romo adudible from a first down run in this game and throw an incomplete - which then caused the play call to be pass on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 10 - There is the likely reason for all the 3 and outs this team has.

I would bet that a lot of the cowboys 3 and outs come after romo has changed a run play to pass.
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I'm not sure how many times he audibled our of the run yesterday but it either way that play is being called as a run/pass option, that's still a coaching problem. The adjustment was not made at halftime to run the ball heavy and chew the clock. Instead the plan was to stay aggressive with the pass according to the JG press conference. Situational game management is terrible, and I can't blame Callahan because these identical problems happened under the JG watch as OC. This is the Jason Garrett philosophy. He wants to prove he's not afraid to pass, when we should run. He thinks he's a genius "passing in run situations against a run defense" but really it's dumb considering the clock and scoreboard. Maybe he's too ivy league smart for his own good. I believe he's severely lacking in street smarts..... he let's his pocket get picked to frequently.
 
brooksey1 said:
What a collapse. It all started on our first drive of the 3rd quarter. Up 26-10 we passed it three straight times for a quick three and out, then it became the next 12 out of 14 passes, reminded me of the loss to Detroit several years ago. JG is stubborn, very stubborn. He does not learn from his mistakes. The successful coaches learn from their failures and make the necessary adjustments but not Jason Garrett, he's better then everyone else. This about the 10th epic collapse under his watch ( there may be more) in the same exact fashion. It's the movie Ground Hog Day and it's not a coincidence.

Something I've noticed is when we throw too much in a game the next game we come out and run, run, run even if its not working, almost like our offense is run through media scrutiny. The thing that gets me is the offensive balance in situational moments is bizarre. I'm all for opening this thing up and passing down the field for the lead but when you have a 26-10 lead why not mix in the run to chew the clock and take their spirit? Its not like it wasn't working we were picking up 7 yds a carry. That's not being agressive?

The reason is our game plan was to run to set up the agressive pass and out score them, partly because our defense is atrocious. However our defense showed up in the first half and no adjustment was made at half time to aggressively run the ball and chew the clock. The same thing happened last week against the bears, we came out running the ball strong but fell behind by two scores. At half we should have adjusted and opened it up with downfield throws etc, instead we played a conservative offense came out and ran it twice, failed to convert on third down and then we punted from Chicago's 41 yd line on 4th and 4 down 27-14? Yup, since we said we're committed to running against the bears we ran 6-7 times in a row to open the 4th quarter down 41-14 and ran almost 4 minutes off the clock. Does anyone else see what's happening here? He runs it heavy when we're down 41-14 with 14 minutes left in the game but not when we're up 26-10 wow, pretty weird.

The point is we make zero in-game or halftime adjustments based on how the game is shaping because we are stubborn as a team as Jason Garrett is a man. He is a "stay the course" guy who Refuses to make adjustments, he has zero flexibility in his game planning. Has anyone else noticed this?

He's got two weeks then please show this man the door, he's a fool.
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Spot on
the Garrett groupies have no excuses this time becasue we were gaining 7 yds/carry consistently

so now, they have decided to gang up on romo

anything to excuse garrett
 
brooksey1 said:
What a collapse. It all started on our first drive of the 3rd quarter. Up 26-10 we passed it three straight times for a quick three and out, then it became the next 12 out of 14 passes, reminded me of the loss to Detroit several years ago. JG is stubborn, very stubborn. He does not learn from his mistakes. The successful coaches learn from their failures and make the necessary adjustments but not Jason Garrett, he's better then everyone else. This about the 10th epic collapse under his watch ( there may be more) in the same exact fashion. It's the movie Ground Hog Day and it's not a coincidence.

Something I've noticed is when we throw too much in a game the next game we come out and run, run, run even if its not working, almost like our offense is run through media scrutiny. The thing that gets me is the offensive balance in situational moments is bizarre. I'm all for opening this thing up and passing down the field for the lead but when you have a 26-10 lead why not mix in the run to chew the clock and take their spirit? Its not like it wasn't working we were picking up 7 yds a carry. That's not being agressive?

The reason is our game plan was to run to set up the agressive pass and out score them, partly because our defense is atrocious. However our defense showed up in the first half and no adjustment was made at half time to aggressively run the ball and chew the clock. The same thing happened last week against the bears, we came out running the ball strong but fell behind by two scores. At half we should have adjusted and opened it up with downfield throws etc, instead we played a conservative offense came out and ran it twice, failed to convert on third down and then we punted from Chicago's 41 yd line on 4th and 4 down 27-14? Yup, since we said we're committed to running against the bears we ran 6-7 times in a row to open the 4th quarter down 41-14 and ran almost 4 minutes off the clock. Does anyone else see what's happening here? He runs it heavy when we're down 41-14 with 14 minutes left in the game but not when we're up 26-10 wow, pretty weird.

The point is we make zero in-game or halftime adjustments based on how the game is shaping because we are stubborn as a team as Jason Garrett is a man. He is a "stay the course" guy who Refuses to make adjustments, he has zero flexibility in his game planning. Has anyone else noticed this?

He's got two weeks then please show this man the door, he's a fool.
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I just can't figure out why we abandoned the run, when it was going so well.
This team is just sooooooooooooooo frustrating to watch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I don't understand the Romo hate either. If Garrett allows Romo the option of an audible on every play, then he should just enjoy the results. At some point, if he is a leader, shouldn't Garrett remove or limit that option if it is a problem, or pull Romo aside and simply say "dude, we are up 26-3, I don't care if they have 10 in the box, we are going to run and burn the clock." There is some weird dynamic at play here that I don't understand, such as Garrett can't limit Romo, Jerry gave the power to Romo, Garrett doesn't understand the game and call passes even when up 26-3, don't know.

I would love to have a coach here who takes some of the pressure off of Romo. I still think Romo is a awesome player, and easily can lead a team to the superbowl. Romo, however, isn't Payton Manning, he can't overcome a horrible defense and atrocious coaching alone, which is what he is being asked to do here every game.
 
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