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MichaelWinicki;3980834 said:
But Roy when it comes to leadership you're giving the issues that we've all heard no credence what-so-ever.

And yeah, while the media does blow things out of proportion, the adage, "Where's there's smoke there's fire" is usually true.

The fact is at some level of the Flyer's hierarchy there was a strong opinion to move Richards. And if he was as good a leader as you are inferring, and as good a two-way player as you are inferring then something doesn't gel somewhere.

I don't think there's any question anywhere in the league about him being one of the best 2 way players in the league.

As to the leadership issue, i think alot of it was perception, because multiple players have come out and said the locker room issues were completely overblown. There may have been a little issue, but im sure locker room chemistry isn't perfect anywhere in the league. They are grown men, and not everyone is going to get along all of the time. I don't doubt his ability as a leader and as a player after what i've seen from him for 7 years now. He's had success at pretty much every level he's been at.

I think the perception was, that he's a partier, he's too quiet to lead, he's not good with the media, etc etc.. but i don't think that accurately defines him as a person or player. I really feel like this came down from Snider, who should let Homer do his job because he's a great GM. Snider openly admitted he was the guy who basically forced us to trade for and find a way to sign Bryzgalov. I know he loves hockey, and he's a great owner, but like Jerry, needs to stick to that.

I think if we had traded Carter and gotten Courturier and Vorceak, and held onto Richards, we would be contenders this year. We'd still have had enough cap space to sign Bryz too. Now, im not sure we are serious cup contenders.
 

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Roy, I get the "I think Mike Richards is a top player" thing. I really do.

But to basically say, subtracting him from this team regardless of what new players they've picked up (including the new goalie), this team is no longer a legit competitor for the cup in 2012 seems way over the top.

We're not talking Bobby Clarke here.
 

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MichaelWinicki;3981274 said:
Roy, I get the "I think Mike Richards is a top player" thing. I really do.

But to basically say, subtracting him from this team regardless of what new players they've picked up (including the new goalie), this team is no longer a legit competitor for the cup in 2012 seems way over the top.

We're not talking Bobby Clarke here.

We're talking a guy who is the face of the team, puts up 70 points a season, sets up his linemates well, plays great defensive hockey, played alot of minutes on the PP and the PK, etc..

Please don't try to tell me he isn't a great player and that Schenn or Vorceak will be able to fill his role this season, that's just hogwash. It'll take alot of stepping up by more than a couple guys to fill what we lost in him. I don't think he's a top player, its a given that he's a top player.
 

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In other ******** Flyers news, Homer now decided to resign Andreas Nodl instead of Darrell Powe, who was one of our top PK'ers last season and lead the team in hits and is only 26 as well. Good Lord Homer has gone mad..
 

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RoyTheHammer;3981469 said:
In other ******** Flyers news, Homer now decided to resign Andreas Nodl instead of Darrell Powe, who was one of our top PK'ers last season and lead the team in hits and is only 26 as well. Good Lord Homer has gone mad..

The Philly media thinks the Flyers are potentially making a big move in the upcoming free agent period.

It was certainly interesting that Nodl accepted a paycut to stay with the team.
 

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MichaelWinicki;3981987 said:
The Philly media thinks the Flyers are potentially making a big move in the upcoming free agent period.

It was certainly interesting that Nodl accepted a paycut to stay with the team.

Agreed. If we are preparing ourselves to make a move for Stamkos, im not sure if that's the right call. That'd be two huge contracts we take on in less than 2 weeks and would put us right back where we were in salary cap trouble. We're going to need space to sign some of the young players we have on this team. I'd be all for getting Stamkos, but how much will it cost us in the long run and would one player be worth putting us right back in salary cap trouble?
 

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I would just like to publicly thank the Toronto Maple Leafs for making it possible for the Stanley Cup champions to draft in the top ten for two consecutive years.

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RoyTheHammer;3982077 said:
Agreed. If we are preparing ourselves to make a move for Stamkos, im not sure if that's the right call. That'd be two huge contracts we take on in less than 2 weeks and would put us right back where we were in salary cap trouble. We're going to need space to sign some of the young players we have on this team. I'd be all for getting Stamkos, but how much will it cost us in the long run and would one player be worth putting us right back in salary cap trouble?

Why aren't you an eagles fan? Not trying to be a dick, just asking bc you like the flyers and phils..
 

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GloryDaysRBack;3984153 said:
Why aren't you an eagles fan? Not trying to be a dick, just asking bc you like the flyers and phils..

Haha.. its a legit question, and one that i get alot.

When i was growing up, the first game i saw that i can remember on TV was a Cowboys vs. Eagles game, and i remember being really into the Cowboys uniforms.. and also my dad was rooting for the Eagles so i started rooting for the Cowboys and i've liked them ever since lol.
 
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