Hoffman to get the start at center vs Panthers

[big dog cowboy]

I wouldn’t mind giving Nathan Thomas some run late in the season.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-nathan-thomas-placed-on-ir/

Yes it's been a bad year.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Believe so. He's been on there all season.

Looking it up, I see that CBS Sports reported that he had an undisclosed injury and would be out for the season. Another site says it was knee tendinitis and he was placed on season-ending IR.

Thank you for looking into that for me!

Unfortunate. Could have been a good opportunity to give him a real look

 

[Creeper]

It's only 1 game but from what I saw Hoffman is a better C than Beebe. Beebe is a rookie and inexperienced at C, but he needs to step it up next year or Hoffman should get his job. I wonder if Beebe would be a better RG than Bass?

 

[blueblood70]

it's crazy how valuable this guy has become to this team we were saying this last year he and bass are very good players that are gonna be futures on this line and I'm sorry if they're not all pros if they don't meet the standard for some fans 'cause they weren't picked in the first round maybe they won't even make a pro ball but these are the kind of guys I want on my team they got a lot of hustle drive their physical they don't take **** from people that's what we've been needing and it's odd that our run game is better when those two are playing in the same game really bass probably needs to be the left guard but in this case he's gonna have to be the right guard but I like it when they're both playing guard our run game just overnight seemed to get better.. I don't think that's a coincidence but this man's value just went through the roof he could play at a pretty good level at center and play at a high level at right guard...

We need more personalities on our team like that with these guys are out there hustling they're not stopping at one block they're looking to go find some more we've been missing that for a while.....

 

[blueblood70]

It's only 1 game but from what I saw Hoffman is a better C than Beebe. Beebe is a rookie and inexperienced at C, but he needs to step it up next year or Hoffman should get his job. I wonder if Beebe would be a better RG than Bass?

That's ridiculous baby hasn't done a single thing for me to think he shouldn't be the starting center on this team he had one bad game snapping the ball but he been playing all year as a rookie there Hoffman needs to be the right guard because I haven't seen a single thing why you would take the center position away from beebee he's played very well... I don't even see where people have a problem with BB he had one get back game with a whole bunch of people had bad games because of the turf the kickers everybody in Washington the snapper the long snapper both centers I don't know what was up with the long cut loose turf, but its his one bad game and wasn't that bad.. You remember Andre Gerard...i do,

Tyler be honest never got better he was the same as a rookie the same when he left here and IMHO BEEBEE is already better...

 

[blueblood70]

- i'm still sticking to best player available, in according to my draft board. If there's a regarded OL guy in draft , I'm not bypassing him in the draft
because i'm content with serviceable-decent OL unit.
If there's a regarded center, a regarded OT available on the menu, i'm still for placing an order.

- i'm not for reaching for draft position needs - just for the sake of filling a position need.
Make sure that position is in according to our draft board.

- If there is no LB warranted of our 1st rd pick, ..then we draft at other positions (in according to our board) at that 1st round spot,
or trade down a couple of so spots (gather extra value picks) ,.....and address LB later in 2nd/3rd rds.

I agree you shouldn't reach but here's the thing we need so many positions there's gotta be some that are going to be passed up and that would be; offensive line, tight end, quarterback, hell we don't really even need A DB...

we have such big needs at outside linebacker, pass rusher ,middle linebacker ,running back, wide receiver, and IDT that there's got to be an even great between an offensive lineman and one of those other needs you take the other needs...

I don't care what your BPA says, a lot of times there within a few points you got to take your need 1st. and we pretty much need everything but I'm not taking offensive lineman I'm with everyone else you have to get all the other needs filled 1st and there's gotta be high graded people because we need them all..

It is true you do not have to reach in this draft because you need so many different positions but you can't take a position that you don't need over 1 you do need you take the highest graded position of need and there's gotta be a top rated guy almost every spot we're gonna pick in almost every position that we need I mean need is crashing right into BPA... But there's no way I'm taking a center in the first round I don't care how highly regarded he is we have those on our team right now... Now somehow the best left tackle in the draft fell to us that might be a different story but is he gonna make it to 10 to 15 i doubt it. Most of those guys go in the top five if not the top ten and you're not getting 1 so I'm still picking my need first 'cause I believe it won't be a reach there's gotta be some great highly graded players at every position we need that I just listed.

 

[blueblood70]

Richards is on IR with a high-ankle sprain.

I think some fans don't even realize how bad this season has been with injuries there's been at least 18 different names it's been on the injury list maybe more could be 20 now I mean they're dropping like flies we have lost so many players and I know people are gonna say that's not an excuse but yeah there's a good reason why the team is as bad as we are right now most of it's because of injuries..

They could try to go back to the offseason and the trade deadline and free agency but there is no amount of an offseason that can overcome that many injuries especially to keep positions key players superstars all hurt.... I mean it's so bad people are forgetting who's hurt and who's not it'd be easier to say who hasn't been hurt this year and the list would be smaller...


Let's just hope we're not hit with this next year and I think the worst of one is overshown but I agree we don't need offensive lineman in this draft there are so many available to put together both the starting line and backups yes some of them are on IR....

 

[America's Cowboy]

That's ridiculous baby hasn't done a single thing for me to think he shouldn't be the starting center on this team he had one bad game snapping the ball but he been playing all year as a rookie there Hoffman needs to be the right guard because I haven't seen a single thing why you would take the center position away from beebee he's played very well... I don't even see where people have a problem with BB he had one get back game with a whole bunch of people had bad games because of the turf the kickers everybody in Washington the snapper the long snapper both centers I don't know what was up with the long cut loose turf, but its his one bad game and wasn't that bad.. You remember Andre Gerard...i do,

Tyler be honest never got better he was the same as a rookie the same when he left here and IMHO BEEBEE is already better...

Brock Hoffman has a quicker and better punch at an opposing NT at the snap of the football as Center at the line of scrimmage. Plus, Hoffman's shotgun snaps are always right on the mark. Beebe is a better base blocker and second level blocker, hence why he should go back to his original college spot of playing Left Guard.

Move them all to their original college positions. I bet they would perform much better:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Cooper Beebe
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: TJ Bass
RT: Tyler Guyton

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's only 1 game but from what I saw Hoffman is a better C than Beebe. Beebe is a rookie and inexperienced at C, but he needs to step it up next year or Hoffman should get his job. I wonder if Beebe would be a better RG than Bass?

If the Cowboys move the OL around Beebe likely goes to LG not RG.

 

[gtb1943]

Brock Hoffman has a quicker and better punch at an opposing NT at the snap of the football as Center at the line of scrimmage. Plus, Hoffman's shotgun snaps are always right on the mark. Beebe is a better base blocker and second level blocker, hence why he should go back to his original college spot of playing Left Guard.

Move them all to their original college positions. I bet they would perform much better:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Cooper Beebe
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: TJ Bass
RT: Tyler Guyton

I see Hoffman as a slightly better Biadasz as his ceiling
Beebe can be much better

 

[America's Cowboy]

I see Hoffman as a slightly better Biadasz as his ceiling
Beebe can be much better

I don't. Look at their snaps accuracy and their get offs, plus their mobility.

 

[blueblood70]

If the Cowboys move the OL around Beebe likely goes to LG not RG.

Not from what I've seen no because that would create a bigger problem because bass looks better as a left guard but that's why I said this is ridiculous to suggest BB is played very well I'm not even seeing where this rookie he had one game against Washington where a bunch of snaps were bad a bunch of kicking problems happened there was something wrong with the turf who knows why but other than that dude's been steady Eddie in my opinion he's better than Tyler right now Tyler never progressed from his rookie year till when we let him go he was pretty much at his ceiling and right now baby's already there in my opinion..

so in my opinion they won't be doing that.. What if they did bass is a better left guard therefore the only natural thing to do is put BB at right guard I don't think you'll have a problem over there without having to snap he could probably play either side.. I guess we'll see more Bass right guard tomorrow and see how he performed but he looks a whole lot better on the left...

This would only need to happen if we move Tyler Smith out to left tackle and I think they're hesitant to wanna do that full time so I don't think any of these scenarios are gonna happen other than Hoffman is gonna take over at right guard for Martin next year and be the starter...

 

[gimmesix]

Brock Hoffman has a quicker and better punch at an opposing NT at the snap of the football as Center at the line of scrimmage. Plus, Hoffman's shotgun snaps are always right on the mark. Beebe is a better base blocker and second level blocker, hence why he should go back to his original college spot of playing Left Guard.

Move them all to their original college positions. I bet they would perform much better:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Cooper Beebe
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: TJ Bass
RT: Tyler Guyton

I could see that being the line next year, with Richards being an option if any of those fail, since he looked very solid at guard in the preseason and looked like he could settle in fine at left tackle if need be. It think Richards might could be a better guard than Bass because he has a better build for it while Bass has to overcome some physical limitations.

 

[DuncanIso]

Other than backups, I really don't think I'd do much about the offensive line in next year's draft. I think we can work out a line among Smith, Richards, Beebe, Hoffman, Bass, Guyton and possibly Steele. Other than Guyton's rookie struggles at LT and Steele's since his ACL tear, that group has been pretty good.

What we need is skill position players (No. 2 receiver, No. 1 back) and defenders (DL, LB) more than anything.

Hoffman is RFA. Hes gonna get paid somewhere.

Steele is gonna get cut.

Diggs is also a possible June cut.

OSA needs paid. Mazi is a bust. DLaw is UFA.

need RB1 and RB2. Rico leaving bc of UFA.

we are cap broke.

 

[gtb1943]

I don't. Look at their snaps accuracy and their get offs, plus their mobility.

Beebe is still learning snapping so I do not count that as much
Muscle is what we missed with Biadasz and I do not see Hoffman doing much better
Mobility is not as important as being able to blast a DT out of the way and also anchor
And I see Beebe better at that

 

[DuncanIso]

Brock Hoffman has a quicker and better punch at an opposing NT at the snap of the football as Center at the line of scrimmage. Plus, Hoffman's shotgun snaps are always right on the mark. Beebe is a better base blocker and second level blocker, hence why he should go back to his original college spot of playing Left Guard.

Move them all to their original college positions. I bet they would perform much better:

LT: Tyler Smith
LG: Cooper Beebe
C: Brock Hoffman
RG: TJ Bass
RT: Tyler Guyton

To be fair, CooperBB is All American/All Conf.

TJ Bass is All Conf x2.

Hoffman is a scrub compared to these two.

 

[DuncanIso]

Beebe is still learning snapping so I do not count that as much
Muscle is what we missed with Biadasz and I do not see Hoffman doing much better
Mobility is not as important as being able to blast a DT out of the way and also anchor
And I see Beebe better at that

There is a reason players like Biadasz, CooperBB are AllConf/All American.

 

[gimmesix]

Hoffman is RFA. Hes gonna get paid somewhere.

Since he's an RFA, we don't have to pay him that much to keep him for another year. I would suspect that he gets an early-round tender, especially if he plays out the season in a starting role and they are satisfied with what they see.

 

[gimmesix]

To be fair, CooperBB is All American/All Conf.

TJ Bass is All Conf x2.

Hoffman is a scrub compared to these two.

Hoffman has been stronger at the point of contact than I expected. I really think he has worked hard on his game since becoming a pro. His first year with us, and even the next preseason, he looked like an afterthought (which is why no one claimed him and he ended up on our PS). When we brought him up to the regular roster, though, he seemed like a changed man.

 

[stiletto]

To be fair, CooperBB is All American/All Conf.

TJ Bass is All Conf x2.

Hoffman is a scrub compared to these two.

I thought he'd be a scrub but he's looked better than that, last two games he was the highest rated O-Lineman, I believe. It's not a bad thing if he's good.