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I am moving into a new apartment, and want to buy some home automation equipment.

Requirements:

  • Not Permanent - I want to be able to take the equipment with me when I leave
  • Cloud DVR storage - Preferably something that allows Google Drive/Dropbox storage for cameras


Equipment I already own/will own:

  • Google Home
  • Nest Thermostat
  • Logitech Harmony Hub
  • Denon Heos soundbar and a couple of Play 3 speakers for whole home audio
  • Server running Linux with plenty of HD space. I could possibly install some open source DVR/Security software here.
  • 2-3 old Rapsberry Pis that I am not using

I would like to buy everything bit by bit. I want an outward facing camera for my balcony, and 1-2 cameras in the apartment. I would like to be able to use Google Home to use voice commands to set the thermostat, turn on lights, play music, etc. Maybe some other things that I am not even aware of. Also, I would like motion/smoke detectors that send me an email or SMS when something happens.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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I am moving into a new apartment, and want to buy some home automation equipment.

Requirements:

  • Not Permanent - I want to be able to take the equipment with me when I leave
  • Cloud DVR storage - Preferably something that allows Google Drive/Dropbox storage for cameras


Equipment I already own/will own:

  • Google Home
  • Nest Thermostat
  • Logitech Harmony Hub
  • Denon Heos soundbar and a couple of Play 3 speakers for whole home audio
  • Server running Linux with plenty of HD space. I could possibly install some open source DVR/Security software here.
  • 2-3 old Rapsberry Pis that I am not using

I would like to buy everything bit by bit. I want an outward facing camera for my balcony, and 1-2 cameras in the apartment. I would like to be able to use Google Home to use voice commands to set the thermostat, turn on lights, play music, etc. Maybe some other things that I am not even aware of. Also, I would like motion/smoke detectors that send me an email or SMS when something happens.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Put some sardines out and attract some killers cats to watch your place. Ala @waldoputty
 

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I have a couple of TP-LINK wall sockets that let me control lights. They are cool, but you must find convenient lights to control. Sometimes it makes things easier, others its just a pain in the you know what.

Nest thermostats well. I've never had one at home, but some idiot decided to install them at my office and they are a pain in the ***. They can loose connection to the network which makes the operations (and help desk) teams job more difficult. They just aren't all that good. Definitely commercial grade which is what a business should have installed instead of those damn things.
 

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I have a couple of TP-LINK wall sockets that let me control lights. They are cool, but you must find convenient lights to control. Sometimes it makes things easier, others its just a pain in the you know what.

Nest thermostats well. I've never had one at home, but some idiot decided to install them at my office and they are a pain in the ***. They can loose connection to the network which makes the operations (and help desk) teams job more difficult. They just aren't all that good. Definitely commercial grade which is what a business should have installed instead of those damn things.
I know 3-4 people with the Nest, and they have no complaints about connectivity.
 

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I know 3-4 people with the Nest, and they have no complaints about connectivity.

Use a WiFi Analyzer at your house first. If you see TONS of WiFi access points and/or traffic. It is likely to be more of an issue.
 

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I have had no issues with my Nest. Google Home integration works great. Still looking for camera suggestions.
 

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I have had no issues with my Nest. Google Home integration works great. Still looking for camera suggestions.
A few years ago, I installed Nest Cam (back when they were DropCam before Nest bought them) cameras in our office where I used to work after an attempted break-in and they worked great.

Those cameras do not store videos locally though. You can use them as live stream cameras without a subscription, but if you want the videos stored, you'll have to subscribe to their cloud-based video storage service, which was quite reasonably priced to me. I think they store videos on that service up to 10 days, but they may offer longer options. You could re-watch, pause, etc. the videos going back 10 days through their service from any of your cameras.

I installed 5 of them and signed up for their subscription service and, while they did use a lot of bandwidth uploading the video streams to DropCam/Nest servers, it was great to have the videos stored off-site and remotely viewable without the bottleneck of the WiFi network's upload cap and without fear someone could disconnect the cameras and/or take out the sim cards (like other camera brands rely on) and lose all of the videos.

The cameras were good back then (720p then, I think they're 1080p now) with night-mode for low lighting. They offered motion detection and even provided the ability to create watch areas within the video to monitor which helped us prevent false alerts due to headlights in the parking lot after hours, sun rising/setting, etc. They had apps and web access plus the ability to speak through the cameras if necessary. You could watch one or up to 4 (back then) camera streams on one screen if you wanted. When activity was detected, the service would automatically contact us based on configuration to let us know.

The owner lived around an hour from the office so it really helped her when the office alarm system triggered (quite common due to being located right next to woods) to not have to drive all the way to the office in the middle of the night because a wild animal triggered an alarm while roaming on the back deck. She was really excited to be able to talk (or yell) at any person who might break in through the speaker system. I would think it would also work well as pet, baby, etc. monitors, though I have no experience using them for those things.

With the subscription service you could set schedules for them to automatically turn on and off so you didn't waste bandwidth or record yourself and/or others while you were there. Though we didn't use it, the service also offered an automatic detection system for your phone so when you walked in with your phone, it stopped recording.

I am not sure if all of these features are still available or if they had added more because it has been a few years since I worked with them, but you might want to at least look at them, especially given you have a Nest thermostat.

I plan to install cameras at my house soon, so I'll be looking at various popular options, but I admit that I am probably going with the Nest Cam cameras and video storage subscription service unless I find something that really impresses me.
 

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I know 3-4 people with the Nest, and they have no complaints about connectivity.

There isnt an issue unless you have your router configured like crap.

Ive had my 1st gen for going on 5 years and not one single connectivity issue ever, love the thing.
 

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A few years ago, I installed Nest Cam (back when they were DropCam before Nest bought them) cameras in our office where I used to work after an attempted break-in and they worked great.

Those cameras do not store videos locally though. You can use them as live stream cameras without a subscription, but if you want the videos stored, you'll have to subscribe to their cloud-based video storage service, which was quite reasonably priced to me. I think they store videos on that service up to 10 days, but they may offer longer options. You could re-watch, pause, etc. the videos going back 10 days through their service from any of your cameras.

I installed 5 of them and signed up for their subscription service and, while they did use a lot of bandwidth uploading the video streams to DropCam/Nest servers, it was great to have the videos stored off-site and remotely viewable without the bottleneck of the WiFi network's upload cap and without fear someone could disconnect the cameras and/or take out the sim cards (like other camera brands rely on) and lose all of the videos.

The cameras were good back then (720p then, I think they're 1080p now) with night-mode for low lighting. They offered motion detection and even provided the ability to create watch areas within the video to monitor which helped us prevent false alerts due to headlights in the parking lot after hours, sun rising/setting, etc. They had apps and web access plus the ability to speak through the cameras if necessary. You could watch one or up to 4 (back then) camera streams on one screen if you wanted. When activity was detected, the service would automatically contact us based on configuration to let us know.

The owner lived around an hour from the office so it really helped her when the office alarm system triggered (quite common due to being located right next to woods) to not have to drive all the way to the office in the middle of the night because a wild animal triggered an alarm while roaming on the back deck. She was really excited to be able to talk (or yell) at any person who might break in through the speaker system. I would think it would also work well as pet, baby, etc. monitors, though I have no experience using them for those things.

With the subscription service you could set schedules for them to automatically turn on and off so you didn't waste bandwidth or record yourself and/or others while you were there. Though we didn't use it, the service also offered an automatic detection system for your phone so when you walked in with your phone, it stopped recording.

I am not sure if all of these features are still available or if they had added more because it has been a few years since I worked with them, but you might want to at least look at them, especially given you have a Nest thermostat.

I plan to install cameras at my house soon, so I'll be looking at various popular options, but I admit that I am probably going with the Nest Cam cameras and video storage subscription service unless I find something that really impresses me.

The nest cams are still all that and extra. The nest aware update is cool too as it figures out whats going on in the room/area. Mine will pop up an alert "We heard a dog barking" when someone knocks on the door and our dog barks at it.

They also have a new nest pro and nest outdoor camera as well.
 

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Thanks. Looks like I'll get about 3 nest cams. Do they ever go on sale?
 
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