Honest Opinions on TO, WR position welcome

Chuck 54

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,508
Reaction score
12,524
Well, it certainly looks like no one should actually be surprised whether TO is still on the team in '09 or if he's on the street. When there's this much smoke, there is some truth in there, and the Cowboys ARE seriously considering their options regarding Terrell Owens...or at least some who work for the Cowboys front office and coaching staff are, whether Jerry is or not is still to be determined.

Here are some things to be considered:

1. There is absolutely no doubt by any sane observer that TO is still, or at least was this past season, the most talented WR who had the biggest impact on the field for the Cowboys.

2. Besides Witten, he may have even been arguably the best offensive player on the team...that's debatable, but it's easy to make an argument that Romo had a bad year, that the other WRs were basically no-shows, and that the RB position, while it proved to have depth, did not produce a playmaker over a 16 game schedule, so maybe TO was among our top 2-3 players.

3. Terrell Owens is, has been, and always will be a pain in the @$$...like him or love him, this cannot be debated. I'm not calling him a cancer or a team wrecker or a coach killer or a QB destroyer....he's none of those. By all accounts, he's a hard worker in practice and in the class, unlike guys like Plaxico Burress. He doesn't break the law or get arrested and probably doesn't use any drugs unless they are prescribed by a psycho analist. But he's still a distraction, whether it's by his own actions or simply the media witch-hunting him for past offenses, he's a pain in the rear.

4. Roy Williams (11) SUCKED....I didn't say he sucks, but he was an invisible man for the Cowboys. I'm sure many, like myself, blame it on injury, being new, etc., and we hope he is the potential star #1 receiver we traded draft picks for and resigned...........but we haven't seen it yet.

So what's an owner/gm to do?

I'm not saying I favor TO being jettisoned. I don't think the worst things he's done the past two years with Dallas even come close to his real past with SF and Philly, and his position in our offense makes it worth that to me....as long as it doesn't escalate (I'd actually like to see fewer tears, fewer articles, less espn exposure and rumor...frankly, less of TO altogether except on game day would be my fantasy). But I also admit that I don't really know whether the TO crap the media talks about really goes on in the locker room and behind the scenes or not. I don't really know if there's a divide between him and Garrett and probably other coaches. Maybe....Maybe not.

However, I do think we have time and the resources to release him if that's what the powers want to do, and I do think the team will be okay.

1. I truly believe that a #1 WR who can get the job done in Detroit with crap for a team and less for QB (Roy-Boy) can be a big time player, maybe never the star TO has been in his prime, but certainly a chain-moving, red-zone scoring terror a notch above Keyshaun Johnson on his best day. Roy will have a training camp; he won't be taking a back seat to TO and making sure he doesn't step on toes; and he'll be healthy, which he wasn't this year.

2. Patrick Crayton basically sucks and is stealing Jerry's money; One can only hope that he might return to the game he played just well-enough to get that contract, but I expect nothing more than that...he's a #3 at best...period.

3. I want to see more, more, more of Miles Austin. If he can stay healthy, this may be his breakout year, and he may win the #2 WR position regardless of what else we do in FA or the draft.

4. Hurd, Stanback, etc....not even worth talking about until they actually show something like Austin has. Frankly, one or both may not get another year to do so.

5. We can sign a veteran #2 type in FA...that's not a huge expense....finding those #1 guys is the bear.

6. We can still look to draft a WR in round 2 or 3. This year's draft may be one that sees plenty of talented guys with experience dropping into rounds 2-3...not to mention the fact that we could easily package 2-3 picks to move into the bottom of round 1...again, we don't need the star blue-chippers like Crabtree and Macklin...there are going to be very talented guys who have the potential of stepping right in and playing at the #2 or #3 spot.

Bottom Line: If we decide to cut TO, the cupboard isn't nearly as bare as it was a few seasons ago, and we have plenty of time to do something about the position in FA and the draft. Terrell has a bonus day coming up soon. If we're going to cut him, it will be before that...we'll save the money and put our house in order, both in the locker room and in our offseason strategy.

If we keep him past the bonus day, it's a no-brainer...he'll be a Cowboy for one more season.

I can live with it either way.

Other opinions on what it would mean talent wise?
 

Stash

Staff member
Messages
78,835
Reaction score
103,565
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
My opinion is that I have yet to see the 'smoking gun' of information or quotes to validate all of this speculation.

I have yet to see the quotes from TO saying the horrible things attributed to him by 'unnamed sources'.

All I have at this point is a bunch of speculation by media who have a great deal to gain in controversy.

If someone could show me what Owens has done so wrong I'd be legitimately and honestly interested.

I still haven't seen it!
 

odog422

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,658
Reaction score
311
To answer your question:

I think we're fine if we let him go. Frankly, I think we have to because the horse has left the barn on this story and no way its not a major distraction the rest of the entire year.

Anyway.

Like you, I'm high on Austin and think this guy can be a big play guy IF he stays healthy.

Agree that Crayton is a filler and all he'll ever be. Strictly a 3rd option.

With Witten, Bennett and our RB group, we should be good. The draft is where we can cover ourselves.
 

Chuck 54

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,508
Reaction score
12,524
stasheroo;2580382 said:
My opinion is that I have yet to see the 'smoking gun' of information or quotes to validate all of this speculation.

I have yet to see the quotes from TO saying the horrible things attributed to him by 'unnamed sources'.

All I have at this point is a bunch of speculation by media who have a great deal to gain in controversy.

If someone could show me what Owens has done so wrong I'd be legitimately and honestly interested.

I still haven't seen it!

So do you only want to leave it at whether he's guilty of anything or not? or do you want to share an opinion on his actual value and how capable we are of moving on without him if it happens?
 

THUMPER

Papa
Messages
9,522
Reaction score
61
My opinion is that regardless of how talented Owens is he isn't worth the hassle and division in the locker room.

I would like to see us move to a more run-oriented offense anyway so having two top WRs isn't really necessary IMO. I would be fine with Roy Williams and Austin starting and pick up another WR via FA and/or draft. Crayton can stay or go, I really don't care one way or the other.

With Witten and Bennett, we have two very good receivers at TE. Felix Jones, Barber, and Choice are also very good receivers so I don't believe the passing game will be a problem without Owens around.

Focus on acquiring better depth for the O-Line and concentrate on the running game and we will see a lot of Romo's turnovers go away.

The fewer headcases we have on the team the better.
 

BHendri5

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,151
Reaction score
1,414
this junk will go on all offseason, even if Jerry were to say T.O. is staying, they will still print things like, why is Jerry keeping this guy.

A Lot of these reporters need to give T.O. some of their paychecks, because he is the reason some of them still has a job.

He has 2 good years left, and I say keep him.
T.O., is frustrated, because he has not won a SB, yet, and he knows that his time left in the NFL, is 2 or 3yrs left, and the more he comes up short the more frustrated he will get. That is the reason he feels that if he can get the ball more he can literally carry this team to a championship.

I am willing to bet any money that if he could exchange his stats for 3 rings, he would. His stats is worth at least 3 rings/ maybe 4.

I believe, if the Boys had won the SB last season this probably would have been T.O.'s last NFL season. He has said that he will not be playing as a 40yr old in the NFL, (that is a quote right from his book).

He is probably thinking right now, "ok, 35, still no ring, next season I will be 36, I have to get this team into and win at least 1 SB before I retire.
We will win a SB with T.O., 09 season, 2010 SB, defend it in the 10 season-2011 SB win again and then T.O. will retire. I do not care who the HC is, but I believe if Garrett stays, when we win the 09 season, Wade will retire, or not be resigned and Garrett will take over.

Now if Garrett leaves(LOL) we still will win and Wade still will be gone and someone new will take over and he will be upset with himself for not sticking it out.

If he gets the Rams job, he will do great.
 
Top