Hopefully we get Steven Neal

[Manster54]

So you basically want to see

Adams - Gurode - Johnson - Rivera - Fabini....

=/

 

[Clove]

Let me think about Gurode for a few minutes and get back to you. But I'm just wondering why BP broke his neck trying to sign Gurode...

 

[theogt]

:ralph:

:shootfoot:

Why? I think Peterman and Kosier will battle for the spot. Hopefully Peterman will be worth his draft pick. I've seen nothing to say that he sucks. Of course we've seen nothing to say he's good either, but if the decision is made to put him in then it will be made by the people that HAVE seen him.

 

[speedkilz88]

Let me think about Gurode for a few minutes and get back to you. But I'm just wondering why BP broke his neck trying to sign Gurode...

Gurode only signed a one year deal that makes him less per year than Kosier. Doesn't look like BP wanted him that bad. Doesn't look like anyone in the league wanted him that bad. I actually thought someone would offer him a better opportunity and a fresh start.

 

[speedkilz88]

Why? I think Peterman and Kosier will battle for the spot. Hopefully Peterman will be worth his draft pick. I've seen nothing to say that he sucks. Of course we've seen nothing to say he's good either, but if the decision is made to put him in then it will be made by the people that HAVE seen him.

They all will be competing for spots, but Kosier was scouted to be the starter, they paid him starter money. Anything can happen in camp, but predicting Peterman to start over Kosier is like predicting Colombo over Flozell. Possible but not very likely.

 

[theogt]

They all will be competing for spots, but Kosier was scouted to be the starter, they paid him starter money. Anything can happen in camp, but predicting Peterman to start over Kosier is like predicting Colombo over Flozell. Possible but not very likely.

That is a horrible analogy. Not even close.

By the way, what are you basing your knowledge of Peterman's skill level on?

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

That dissapoints me!!!!

It can disappoint you all it wants. But when was the last time that kind of money was given to a backup O-lineman? never.

 

[Galian Beast]

Its obvious why we bent over backwards to get Gurode.

He can play center and guard, and he isn't too expensive. He also has experience playing on our line.

It simply allowed us to not have to go and sign two more players to replace him.

Same reason why I hope we signed Kosier. Bill likes versatile linemen. Especially for depth. Why do you think we kept vollers for so long?

There is going to be a competition for left guard and right tackle most likely.

Kosier vs gurode

and

kosier vs fabini

I think Kosier is the cost of Tucker, and the backup right guard we SHOULD have had.

Gurode is the cost of the backup center we should have had, and the backup right guard we should have had. You split the cost of the right guard towards Kosier, and you have 3 low end salaries...

kosier = 15 million dollars over 5 years including a 5 million dollar signing bonus

so in other words 3 million a year.

Gurode signed a 1 year deal with for 1.5 million dollars including a 500k dollar signing bonus.

So the total between Gurode and kosier can be thought of as 4.5 million dollars for year 1 (i know that kosier isn't getting 3 million this year though).

So 4.5 million dollars divided by RT, LG, C = 1.5 million per position...

Hardly that much money... even for depth...

consider kosier can play LT, LG, RG, RT... and gurode can play LG, C, RG...

It makes a little more sense as to why they paid Kosier so much money.

If 1.5 million dollars is the price for 3 positions, 2 million is the price for 4 positions.

Then deduce that since gurode only has a 1 year deal, his signing bonus is effectively part of his base salary. Kosier is given 5 million more because they signed him to a 5 year deal...

I still think he is going to be depth in the beginning. So I still hope we sign someone else.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't know if i'd say we gave Kosier "starting" money...

Kyle Kosier is getting 600,000 dollars in base salary, and a total cap hit of 1.6 million dollars this year.

Meaning his cap his it just 100k more than Gurodes...

Marco Rivera got a 9 million dollar signing bonus over 5 years, making his first year hit 2.5 milllion dollars compared to Kosiers 1.6 million.

They obviously expect to start Kosier at least by next year, but thats probably because they're going to release Rivera next year.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm with theogt. Don't forget about Peterman. He was a top guard prospect and last year was basically his rookie season. There's a reason he was put at LG last year to take a full season's worth of practice reps there...