Horror Villains "Who's the Best" Tournament

[RJ_MacReady]

1- Predator
32-Hillbillies from Deliverance

16- Michael Myers
17- Werewolf

9- Freddy Krueger
24-Jack Torrance( The Shining)

8- Jason
25-Joker( Heath Ledger)

4- Dracula
29- Salma Hayak( Dusk til Dawn Vampire)

13- Creature from the Black Lagoon
20-Blair Witch

5- Darth Vader
28-Michael Ironside( Scanners)

12- Frankenstein
21-IT

2- The Thing
31- Hollow Man

15- Pinhead
18-Jeeper's Creeper

10- Leatherface
23- Hannibal Lector

7- Alien
26-Japanese Girl from Audition

3- Terminator
30- Norman Bates

14- Hal 9000
19-Scream Villain

11- Samara( The Ring Girl)
22-Chucky

6- Linda Blair(Exorcist)
27-The Mummy[/QUOTE]

 

[DallasEast]

i'd go with dracula.
i'm a sucker for a guy in a cape.

 

[nobody]

In my opinion, Darth Vader shouldn't even be in this because, while he is indeed one of the greatest movie villains of all time, he is not a horror villain.

 

[csirl]

Don't get Leatherface over Hannibal Lector.

Lector is too intelligent and ruthless to be beaten by a straightforward predictable villian who has no special powers.

Lector would eat him for breakfast!

 

[quickccc]

In my opinion, Darth Vader shouldn't even be in this because, while he is indeed one of the greatest movie villains of all time, he is not a horror villain.

what's the difference ?

 

[quickccc]

Don't get Leatherface over Hannibal Lector.

Lector is too intelligent and ruthless to be beaten by a straightforward predictable villian who has no special powers.

Lector would eat him for breakfast!

Horror film fans may like and prefer the creepy look of Leather face... .as well as the use and violent destruction of a chainsaw tool.

 

[DallasEast]

what's the difference ?

The Darth Vader character is the antagonist for the action/adventure/fantasy genres. He is not a hostile character belonging to the horror genre.

In my opinion, a greatest villain tournament would combine characters from the different set of genres. However, this was specifically a horror villain tournament. I also see the contestants being inherently different.

For me, the characters should be interchangeable between films of certain genres. As different as individual storylines might be, I had no problem with, for example, Freddy vs Jason, who were initially the central antagonists of their respective horror (1984's A Nightmare on Elm Street) and horror/mystery/thriller (1980's Friday the 13th) genre films.

That said, I filled my bracket solely on the characters themselves. In fact, I could make an argument that Darth would have advanced to the championship in any of the four regions he could have been seeded in, regardless of seeding, lol.

 

[quickccc]

The Darth Vader character is the antagonist for the action/adventure/fantasy genres. He is not a hostile character belonging to the horror genre.

In my opinion, a greatest villain tournament would combine characters from the different set of genres. However, this was specifically a horror villain tournament. I also see the contestants being inherently different.

For me, the characters should be interchangeable between films of certain genres. As different as individual storylines might be, I had no problem with, for example, Freddy vs Jason, who were initially the central antagonists of their respective horror (1984's A Nightmare on Elm Street) and horror/mystery/thriller (1980's Friday the 13th) genre films.

That said, I filled my bracket solely on the characters themselves. In fact, I could make an argument that Darth would have advanced to the championship in any of the four regions he could have been seeded in, regardless of seeding, lol.

So in this sense, do i get the vibe associated with "Horror" Villains, seems more geared towards "Blood Gore' type ? ... ala Chucky ? .Leather Face? ,..Freddy ?...Saw? ...Pinhead? .. Morbius ?

So with those villains like .Hannibal Lector ..Joker,.... Kingpin Wilson Fisk, .. . what villain category would they best fit ?

Darth Vader would indeed be a villain .. but is he more so as a Sci-Fi/Fantasy villain than a Horror(gore?) villains ? .. ala Thanos, Terminator, Agent Smith (Matrix) Emperor Palpatine, Megatron (Decepticons: Transformers series) ...Magneto, Hela, Loki etc.

yeh, if the Villain genre was interchangeable and versatile in that sense, then it would've been better served as " Greatest Villain " title, which would cover the various villain genres.

 

[DallasEast]

So in this sense, do i get the vibe associated with "Horror" Villains, seems more geared towards "Blood Gore' type ? ... ala Chucky ? .Leather Face? ,..Freddy ?...Saw? ...Pinhead? .. Morbius ?

So with those villains like .Hannibal Lector ..Joker,.... Kingpin Wilson Fisk, .. . what villain category would they best fit ?

Darth Vader would indeed be a villain .. but is he more so as a Sci-Fi/Fantasy villain than a Horror(gore?) villains ? .. ala Thanos, Terminator, Agent Smith (Matrix) Emperor Palpatine, Megatron (Decepticons: Transformers series) ...Magneto, Hela, Loki etc.

Not sure about "vibe" but for me slotting villains would be determined by the film (or possibly television) genre origin of the character, such as:

Chucky (Child's Play, 1988, Horror)
Leatherface (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, 1974, Horror)
Freddy (already posted)
Jigsaw (Saw, 2004, Horror/Mystery/Thriller) Note: I personally do not define the film's genre as Horror as IMDB.com does
Pinhead (Hellraiser, 1987, Horror/Thriller)
Morbius (2022, Action/Adventure/Horror) Note: I am curious if I will agree with Horror after watching the film
Dr. Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs, 1991, Crime/Drama/Thriller)
Joker (my preferred example is The Dark Knight, 2008, Action/Crime/Drama)
Kingpin/Winston Fisk (Hawkeye, television series, 2021, Action/Adventure/Drama)

Out of the above batch, I would include Morbius, Joker, and Kingpin with Darth Vader in an action/adventure villains tournament but would only pick Morbius (I am guessing right now) for a horror villain and exclude Anakin's dark side. Similarly, Chucky, Leatherface, Freddy, Jigsaw (meh), Pinhead and likely Morbius as horror villains without Vader. Also, Hannibal would be classified neither as action/adventure nor horror villain in my book--ALTHOUGH I would strongly argue he belongs in the Suspense genre as well. Just my two cents.

 

[nobody]

what's the difference ?

Darth Vader is from a movie series that is classified as "Science Fantasy" and the title states the "Horror" genre. He's not a good fit. @DallasEast describes it well.

Star Wars was never meant to be fear-inducing, scary, or at least creepy on some psychological level. I think a good Horror villain is meant to be on some level. I don't know anyone in my life that Darth Vader scared as a kid.

 

[G2]

Would Jaws count?

 

[timb2]

Would Jaws count?

No he is in monsters

 

[RodeoJake]

Are you talking about Ed Gein?

Gein wasn't put in prison. He was declared legally insane and spent the rest of his life in a mental institution