How about a 3-team deal?

[Stash]

Patriots-Bears Logan Mankins trade probably not happening

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2010 11:02 AM ET
Although it's been floated as a possibility and could make sense for both teams, a trade that would send Patriots restricted free agent guard Logan Mankins to the Bears is probably not going to happen today.

ESPN Chicago reports that the Bears kicked around the idea of trading for Mankins but decided that the price was too high. There's been talk that the Bears could get Mankins for defensive tackle Tommie Harris and a fourth-round pick, but that doesn't look likely.

Mankins has declined to sign his one-year tender offer with the Patriots, and in order to acquire him any team would need to both meet his contractual demands and meet the Patriots' demands for compensation.

And so the Bears, who would like to upgrade a line that has allowed Jay Cutler to get sacked 23 times this season, aren't likely to get that upgrade via trade today.


I see a perfect opportunity for a three team deal here, killing two birds with one stone.

Trade Leonard Davis to the Bears for whatever you can get for him and trade whatever you get from Chicago along with whatever else it takes to get Logan Mankins.

You'd get out from Davis' overpaid contract and upgrade the position at the same time.

Just my opinion anyway.

Win-win in my book.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Highly unlikely we are trading Davis or trading for Mankins

#1 It would take too long for Mankins to be ready to play

#2 He wants too much money

 

[Stash]

Highly unlikely we are trading Davis or trading for Mankins

#1 It would take too long for Mankins to be ready to play

I've read that he's preparing to come to New England within the next few weeks to gain his year of credit toward free agency next year. That doesn't sound like a couch potato to me.

#2 He wants too much money

He wants top guard money, which unfortunately is what we're overpaying Leonard Davis right now. There's not a considerable difference in dollars, just production.

But I agree it's unlikely. Just wishful thinking on my part that they'll get something right.

 

[Idgit]

Just because three teams are involved, it doesn't make it more likely we can offload a stiff to get a player in return.

I've not been hot for Mankins at any point, but I'd have to admit: if we have to find both a RT and at least one G this offseason, trading for Mankins now, when his value's lowest, and overpaying him, starts to look like a pretty good deal. We shouldn't give up any more than Minny gave up for Moss to get it done, though.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I've read that he's preparing to come to New England within the next few weeks to gain his year of credit toward free agency next year. That doesn't sound like a couch potato to me.



He wants top guard money, which unfortunately is what we're overpaying Leonard Davis right now. There's not a considerable difference in dollars, just production.

But I agree it's unlikely. Just wishful thinking on my part that they'll get something right.

Reporting and being in playing shape aren't the same.

 

[burmafrd]

Word is that mankins has been keeping in pretty good shape; should only take a couple of weeks to get him ready to play.

No way we can trade Bigg with his contract. The guy is stinking it up.

 

[casmith07]

Word is that mankins has been keeping in pretty good shape; should only take a couple of weeks to get him ready to play.

No way we can trade Bigg with his contract. The guy is stinking it up.

He'd probably be ready in a week. Just needs to know the scheme. These guys don't sit around like someone else said, couch potatoes.

 

[dbair1967]

How many 3 team trades are there in the NFL? I dont recall any.

That said, I doubt anyone wants Leonard Davis right now.

 

[Stash]

As an update:

If this information is accurate, there's no way a deal would happen - and rightly so.

Mankins trade probably too pricey to pull off

Posted by Mike Florio on October 19, 2010 12:43 PM ET
With the annual trading period expiring in roughly three hours, the prevailing scuttlebutt in league circles is that the Patriots want a first-round pick or a high second-round pick for guard Logan Mankins.

And we're hearing Mankins wants a contract worth $8 million per year.

As a result, we'd be shocked if Mankins is traded today. With only 11 weeks remaining in the 2010 regular season and Mankins on track to become an unrestricted free agent in 2011 (unless the Pats use the franchise tag to keep him in place), why would anyone give up a first-round or second-round pick for a guy who wants way too much money at a time when it will be difficult for him to have a major impact?

Of course, now that we've said we're shocked he'll be traded today, look for him to be traded today.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So let me get this straight. We get rid of Davis' contract so we don't have to pay it and the Chicago Bears will happily take it on? Whoa.

 

[superonyx]

Bears dont want Davis. Thats the problem. If they are not willing to pay mankins they sure as hell wont pay kimbo davis.

As for the cowboys......hmmm.... I dont have a problem with the 8 million per year for a 26 year old 2 time probowl player in a position of need. But i dont want to give up a 1st round pick for him to play half a season when we are 1-4. That first rounder could be valuable. I would give up a 2nd if Mankins would agree to a good enough contract. Because if he is an unrestricted free agent in the summer we will really have to over pay for him. I hate the idea of a bidding war over a guard.

 

[Stash]

So let me get this straight. We get rid of Davis' contract so we don't have to pay it and the Chicago Bears will happily take it on? Whoa.

Yep.

That was it exactly. What you said is exactly what I meant.

Your grasp of the English language is an inspiration to us all and we are truly blessed to have your interpretive skills on this forum.

 

[superonyx]

Yep.

That was it exactly. What you said is exactly what I meant.

Your grasp of the English language is an inspiration to us all and we are truly blessed to have your interpretive skills on this forum.

I feel kind of bad in a way i am not sure i understand fully but.......................................................................................................................

 

[Marktui]

I see a perfect opportunity for a three team deal here, killing two birds with one stone.

Trade Leonard Davis to the Bears for whatever you can get for him and trade whatever you get from Chicago along with whatever else it takes to get Logan Mankins.

You'd get out from Davis' overpaid contract and upgrade the position at the same time.

Just my opinion anyway.

Win-win in my book.

Do you really think the Bears who have seen Davis on tape struggle in pass protection would give up player or draft pick to acquire him? They are trying to cut down on sacks not ADD to them.

Belicheat is way too smart , he see's that we struggle with pass protection, he is going to want a high draft pick or players (I am not talking about Jesse Holley either, one of our front line players, Spencer, Ware, Jones).

Teams that ask for the trade will always have to give up something substantial, because the other team knows you maybe desperate enough to agree to their demands. Realistically, what would be fair value for a Logan Mankins?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Patriots-Bears Logan Mankins trade probably not happening

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 19, 2010 11:02 AM ET
Although it's been floated as a possibility and could make sense for both teams, a trade that would send Patriots restricted free agent guard Logan Mankins to the Bears is probably not going to happen today.

ESPN Chicago reports that the Bears kicked around the idea of trading for Mankins but decided that the price was too high. There's been talk that the Bears could get Mankins for defensive tackle Tommie Harris and a fourth-round pick, but that doesn't look likely.

Mankins has declined to sign his one-year tender offer with the Patriots, and in order to acquire him any team would need to both meet his contractual demands and meet the Patriots' demands for compensation.

And so the Bears, who would like to upgrade a line that has allowed Jay Cutler to get sacked 23 times this season, aren't likely to get that upgrade via trade today.


I see a perfect opportunity for a three team deal here, killing two birds with one stone.

Trade Leonard Davis to the Bears for whatever you can get for him and trade whatever you get from Chicago along with whatever else it takes to get Logan Mankins.

You'd get out from Davis' overpaid contract and upgrade the position at the same time.

Just my opinion anyway.

Win-win in my book.

OK, so you think LD is trash, yet you think chicago is stupid and will take davis off our hands since he is better than what they have!!!! so you want chicago to pick up a trash, with over inflated contract....this ain't madden 11 son

 

[Stash]

Do you really think the Bears who have seen Davis on tape struggle in pass protection would give up player or draft pick to acquire him? They are trying to cut down on sacks not ADD to them.

I defer to the old adage one team's trash...

The Bears' front office is desparate to win this year, if they don't both coach and GM are fired. That leads me to believe that they would do whatever it takes to improve. If Smith and Angelo are gone, what do they care about future draft picks or salary cap?

Davis is underachieving, but I think he'd be an improvement over what Chicago has.

Secondly, Chicago will likely only be taking on his remaining salary without bonuses. That would allow them to cut him in the future without cap consequence if they chose to.

Thirdly, I'm not referring to them giving up a high draft pick, but more likely a 6th rounder or 5th at best.

Belicheat is way too smart , he see's that we struggle with pass protection, he is going to want a high draft pick or players (I am not talking about Jesse Holley either, one of our front line players, Spencer, Ware, Jones).

Would you take what you can get now or let him walk next year with nothing in return?

Teams that ask for the trade will always have to give up something substantial, because the other team knows you maybe desperate enough to agree to their demands. Realistically, what would be fair value for a Logan Mankins?

I think you could get him for a 3rd rounder all things considered.

A 2nd at most in my opinion.

With the Cowboys draft record for linemen, I'd take that deal.

 

[Stash]

OK, so you think LD is trash, yet you think chicago is stupid and will take davis off our hands since he is better than what they have!!!! so you want chicago to pick up a trash, with over inflated contract....this ain't madden 11 son

Again, desparate teams do desparate things.

If coach and GM don't win now, both are gone.

What will they then care about the team's salary cap or draft picks?

If they were considering Mankins, it shows me they have a need at guard and are looking to fill it.

Just because I think Davis sucks and is ill-suited to Garrett's requirements doesn't mean the Bears agree with me.

Heck, plenty of people around here didn't agree with me on the same subject months ago.