How big is the need at DE?

[baltcowboy]

A lot will depend who they hire. If we stay in a 4-3 base, more of a rotational type, but if we move to 3-4, we are going to need another starting caliber OLB.

Collins baby!!!!

 

[Cowboyny]

Collins baby!!!!

In my opinion, Collins is an ideal in more of a hybrid scheme as he can play all over the place. Some comparisons are to Jamie Collins and Kyle Van Noy. Teams would not get the maximum benefit if they just play him at one spot. Yes, he can become an edge player, but can do so much more.

 

[baltcowboy]

In my opinion, Collins is an ideal in more of a hybrid scheme as he can play all over the place. Some comparisons are to Jamie Collins and Kyle Van Noy. Teams would not get the maximum benefit if they just play him at one spot. Yes, he can become an edge player, but can do so much more.

Do you think the new defensive coordinator will have pull in this draft or the front will make the draft decisions like last season? I will say I trust the office more then the coaches.

 

[Cowboyny]

Do you think the new defensive coordinator will have pull in this draft or the front will make the draft decisions like last season? I will say I trust the office more then the coaches.

MM believes scouts scout, coaches coach, but if they need scheme specific players the DC is going to have a say who gets drafted. Marinelli was terrible at this, one of the many reasons I like Marvin Lewis is he actually built a defense from the ground up as he was the GM of the Bengals.

 

[cowboyec]

i like our group as a whole.
but you can never have enough.
i wouldn't be shocked if we take michigan's kwity paye or miami's greg rousseau at 10.
or if we got one in the 2nd.
i like pitt's patrick jones.
not at 10....but if he's there in the 2nd i'd run his card in.

nothing on def side of the ball is off the table.

 

[cnuball21]

In my opinion, Collins is an ideal in more of a hybrid scheme as he can play all over the place. Some comparisons are to Jamie Collins and Kyle Van Noy. Teams would not get the maximum benefit if they just play him at one spot. Yes, he can become an edge player, but can do so much more.

I agree...he’s an off the ball LBr that can give you blitz help. He’s not a pass rusher and I think peeing him at DE or 3/4 OLB is setting him up for failure.

 

[J-man]

Yes, DE is definitely a need. I mocked Rousseau to us at 10 and got crucified for it. But I think it could very well happen.
To me LB is the biggest need on D. Smith just isn't playing well enough, LVE is too often injured. Lee is about to hang em up.
CB and S are obvious major needs, and we all want a giant DT to clog those running lanes. Really any and all defensive positions need upgrades and depth. But at 10 there are only so many players/positions worthy of the pick.

If Parsons is there I think they'd take him. Don't think he will be but if he is they jump at him. He would be a beast as a 3/4 OLB.
I'm not sure if they would take Collins there, but I would like to land him some how.
Anxious to see who they hire as DC and what scheme he wants to run.

 

[tm1119]

We need to add as many front 7 playmakers as possible...because we have 0. The D was 2nd worst vs the run and 20th in sacks. Can’t win football games like that, regardless of who is in the secondary.

 

[Future]

I think it depends what type of defense they're going to run before we know what the need at DE is.

It's very difference if they want to keep doing that hybrid with guys in a two-point all the time or a single-gap.

 

[Doomsday101]

Personally I'm good with what Dallas has at DE, where I see major need is up the middle at DT. When teams can avg 5 yards a carry it keeps offense in down and distance situations creates bigger plays it also slows down pass rush as defense is having to look run 1st, it puts pressure on the secondary as you tend to bring guys up around the line to try and slow down the run. Any great defense I have seen in Dallas has always had a DT who could create problems up the middle.

 

[Beaker42]

Let's see who they hire first to determine what type of end they will be looking for. I think Armstrong playing so many snaps really irritated the front office as they wanted Gregory to play more.

All they had to do was tell them like they did but it was too late - too much suckage under the bridge for Dorance. Even a casual observer knew Gregory was a much better player and option.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The six foot six inch 300 lb defensive end with 3-ft long arms is something we do not have and could definitely be useful in the defense that Quinn uses.

The Michigan defensive end would be a good pick if he's the best available.

 

[lego_sage]

I really think the pass rush is fine. I'd concentrate on the secondary and on shoring up the O-line. Maybe some interior DL's

 

[Cowboyny]

The six foot six inch 300 lb defensive end with 3-ft long arms is something we do not have and could definitely be useful in the defense that Quinn uses.

The Michigan defensive end would be a good pick if he's the best available.

Paye certainly is more in the picture with the hiring of Quinn.

 

[Beaker42]

Paye certainly is more in the picture with the hiring of Quinn.

That’s not describing Paye though is it? Maybe Rousseau?

 

[Cowboyny]

That’s not describing Paye though is it? Maybe Rousseau?

I think Paye could fit that 4T role well.