How do Ware and/or Ellis combat getting "chipped"....

[newlander]

I believe that's the term used when a RB or tight end takes a shot on them and then continues on their way down the field while the olineman is still there to block. I noticed the Browns did it well against Ware especially. How do you counter that?

 

[Crown Royal]

Run their tiny *** over.

 

[DallasEast]

Chipping is double-teaming. If Ware's getting double-teamed, someone isn't. If you're a teammate of Ware, trying to apply pressure on McNabb, you counter it by beating your man who's blocking you one-on-one. That's how your front seven counter double-teaming Ware.

 

[Eskimo]

I would suggest countering by moving Ware around in the nickel and occasionally stunting. It is harder to build chipping into the game plan if Ware is lined up all over the place.

The other thing Ware can do is develop an inside counter for OTs that are cheating too much against the speed rush. I hardly ever see him use one so I wonder if he can't get down the footwork.

Two of the great speed rushers of our time with great inside counters are Bruce Smith and Dwight Freeney and this is why they were so hard to handle even with the double teams.

 

[Eskimo]

Run their tiny *** over.

Easier said then done when you're already engaged by an OT that has 70 pounds on you.

Remember, that this is what mucked up Haley's back in 1995.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Dallas must bring pressure straight up the middle, that will put the focus elsewhere then....

 

[sbark]

I would think Stunting is much easier out of the 4-3 vrs the 3-4..........

In the 4-3, if the DE and DT stunt......there is still a LB behind them to maintian and cover a area

Agree with the need to have Canty, Tank Spears and Rat be able to get a push up the middle to prevent the QB from stepping up into the pocket..

I saw Clev. keep quite a few blockers in to protect.......choice they made

Ware & Ellis will get their share...hopefully more than their share Mon Nite

 

[DallasEast]

Dallas must bring pressure straight up the middle, that will put the focus elsewhere then....

 

[CATCH17]

Usually if you get "chipped" than its by a TE or a RB going off into their route and wanting to throw off your timing for a split second.

There really isn't much you can do about it and it doesn't really buy them a whole lot of time unless it helps get the offensive line a little more settled coming out of their stance.

 

[TwentyOne]

I believe that's the term used when a RB or tight end takes a shot on them and then continues on their way down the field while the olineman is still there to block. I noticed the Browns did it well against Ware especially. How do you counter that?

Stunts on DLine is one way i guess. So your OLB has a matchup against the guard and your DE will play against the Tackle. If the RB doesn't read it well you avaoid the chip.

 

[newlander]

GOOD posts: I appreciate it. I noticed Jacobs the crybaby doosh RB for the gspots was doing it today against the Rams too. Ware should get use to this, and Wade should be smart enough to counter it.......

 

[TheCount]

Chipping is double-teaming. If Ware's getting double-teamed, someone isn't. If you're a teammate of Ware, trying to apply pressure on McNabb, you counter it by beating your man who's blocking you one-on-one. That's how your front seven counter double-teaming Ware.

Chipping is not the same as double teaming.

When someone is "chipped" it means the RB or whoever hits him (along with the main blocker) before continuing on to do something else (such as rolling out to catch a pass in the flat, run a route, block someone else, etc).

Mistaking a chip for a double team is usually how a RB ends up in the flat catching a short pass and taking it 15 yards down the field because he was assumed to be a blocker.

Chipping just slows a guy down or changes his momentum, not much you can do other than fight through it, in my opinion.

 

[Sarge]

I believe that's the term used when a RB or tight end takes a shot on them and then continues on their way down the field while the olineman is still there to block. I noticed the Browns did it well against Ware especially. How do you counter that?

Only one gets chipped, the other (Ellis) has to get there.

 

[DallasEast]

Chipping is not the same as double teaming.

When someone is "chipped" it means the RB or whoever hits him (along with the main blocker) before continuing on to do something else (such as rolling out to catch a pass in the flat, run a route, block someone else, etc).

Mistaking a chip for a double team is usually how a RB ends up in the flat catching a short pass and taking it 15 yards down the field because he was assumed to be a blocker.

Chipping just slows a guy down or changes his momentum, not much you can do other than fight through it, in my opinion.

True, but it is a temporary double-team if the quarterback releases the ball while or shortly after the chip occurs since the defender is still engaged with two offensive players or just after being engaged with two offensive players.

 

[DallasEast]

Only one gets chipped, the other (Ellis) has to get there.

When Ratliff's in there at nose, I hope to see him use his quickness to shoot the gap on one or two occasions when that happens.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Stunts or just simple moves to the inside are ways to guard against chipping.





YAKUZA

 

[LongSnapper]

you counter with blitz up the "A" gap, if the back is consistantly stepping out to chip and go on a pattern you send your blitz down the opponents throat. its all x's and o's and execution ( see z.thomas)

 

[TheCount]

you counter with blitz up the "A" gap, if the back is consistantly stepping out to chip and go on a pattern you send your blitz down the opponents throat. its all x's and o's and execution ( see z.thomas)

Then the offense runs a slant to the open middle. Nothing is simple in football.

If you've already got your OLB's coming, hence their being chipped, and you go ahead and send your MLB's as well, who is playing the middle?

 

[newlander]

good discussion: come to think of it, Emmitt did this on and off while he was here too. OK for him to do it as he was a STUD. Jacobs is, and always will be a dooooosh.

 

[LongSnapper]

that's # 38's job but thats the chess match and those that get it and are students understand, your point is well taken but it falls on 38 or 26 to knock the snot out of the reciever slanting thus bringing out a case of the ol' gator arms



ps that's why it is a team sport