How good is Scandrick going to end up being?

[Baileyneverfailey]

First, let me say that I have never been too high or too low on Scandrick. I have definitely been frustrated with the way he always seems to be chasing guys across the middle, and is always close but never quite in position for a pick or to break up the pass.

That being said, I have also always liked his attitude as a player. He never complained when he wasn't the guy who won the starting job last year, and he has never shied away from sticking his nose in there to hit a running back or receiver.

He's only 23, so he has a lot more potential football ahead of him, and you can't help but be impressed the way he's played the last two weeks. He actually got his hands on some passes and could've had 2 picks against Detroit, and once again he tackled very well, and blitzed well when we sent him.

He's never going to be a technical cover man like Newman or a ball hawk like Jenkins, but I think he has the potential to be a good starting corner along with Jenkins for the future.

I see him as that slot guy who you send on the blitz occasionally, and isn't a liability in the run game when the other team spreads us out. Maybe he is just more suited to the playcalling we're seeing since coach P took over the D too, because as I said before, there is no denying he's been very good the last two games.

 

[TheCount]

I think he could be starter quality but don't think he'll ever be elite, and he'll have some games where he's just plain looks bad. I'd resign him if it's reasonable.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know right now I just want to see him continue to improve and contribute. The kid has been roughed up the last 2 years it would be nice to see him get things turned around.

 

[superpunk]

He's like a really sucky version of Newman, in that he always seems to be in position to make the play, but never seems to make it. He makes it so the QBs have a very small window to throw to, but he is constantly getting beat by that window.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I think he could be starter quality but don't think he'll ever be elite, and he'll have some games where he's just plain looks bad. I'd resign him if it's reasonable.

I also don't think he's ever going to be an elite corner, but I never expect a 5th round pick to become elite. If he becomes a solid starter that will be good enough. The big money guys on our defense are going to be Ware, Ratliff, and potentially Jenkins if he gets back on track.

He's like a really sucky version of Newman, in that he always seems to be in position to make the play, but never seems to make it. He makes it so the QBs have a very small window to throw to, but he is constantly getting beat by that window.

This is a pretty good assessment, though I do think part of that is just that playing the slot it's pretty much impossible to always have tight coverage on those slot receivers when most of the time they're just releasing off the line and racing on a crossing route. I mean, it would be nice if he was fast enough to close on them and break up the plays, but alas.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't know that he will ever be more than #3 CB.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know that he will ever be more than #3 CB.

Not every member is going to be a star player, hell no one could afford having a roster of all pros.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He is going to be the next Ty Law.

 

[ChooChoo73]

I would constantly be trying to replace him and would highly consider cutting him. 8 weeks of crap play and 2 weeks of better play is not enough. We have a short memory around here but I will not let a decent finish cloud my own eyes. What I saw was a bunch of check-cashers unable to motivate themsleves and Davis and Scandrick top the list. I do not want to sit here at the beginning of next year saying we should have cut him or gotten better at the #3 CB position. I would ratehr say that the replacement was no better than Scandrick. I don't think it could be worse but I guess there is always a Pete Hunter out there.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't know that he will ever be more than #3 CB.

I think he can be. I think he just has problems playing man to man. When he is playing man, he never knows when the ball is coming. He never looks back, thats why he always gets burned.

 

[Chuck 54]

I'm very high on Scandrick, and I continue to praise his play.

The guy is gutsy and hardnosed for a little guy...he's always around the receiver. He was catching a lot of grief for being outmuscled for a TD by huge wideouts on the slant, but he shouldn't have been the only CB in the game. People say he stinks because teams keep getting first downs on 3rd downs, but that's the design of every team's offense...they want to throw to the guy in the slot. It's a very difficult position to play. It was TNew's job before Scandrick proved he could handle it.

The guy, any guy in the slot, is going to give up plenty of first downs, but he's usually right there to make the hit, and honestly, in most games, our pass rush hasn't been very good, leaving all the DBs hanging out to dry.

Scandrick is a very very good 3rd CB. I'll be thrilled if McCann or one of the guys on the PS can develop into the same type player.

 

[craig71]

Anyone have any thoughts about moving Scandrick to free safety. He seems to be willing to mix it up in run support from the corner postion. If he could make the transition it would give the defense some flexibility as well. I know that the Ball experiment has been a failure, but I wouldn't mind seeing Scandrick on the field for a few games in the free safety spot.

Craig

 

[The Natural]

I haven't been high on Scandrick but he's really elevated his play these past couple of weeks. He even got his head around on a few passes last Sunday.
Now how good can he be? I think a dependable 3rd CB who can occasionally fill in for 1 or 2 if injured.

I'd like to see more of Scandrick blitzing, he always seems to make a positive play when he does.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I'm very high on Scandrick, and I continue to praise his play.

The guy is gutsy and hardnosed for a little guy...he's always around the receiver. He was catching a lot of grief for being outmuscled for a TD by huge wideouts on the slant, but he shouldn't have been the only CB in the game. People say he stinks because teams keep getting first downs on 3rd downs, but that's the design of every team's offense...they want to throw to the guy in the slot. It's a very difficult position to play. It was TNew's job before Scandrick proved he could handle it.

The guy, any guy in the slot, is going to give up plenty of first downs, but he's usually right there to make the hit, and honestly, in most games, our pass rush hasn't been very good, leaving all the DBs hanging out to dry.

Scandrick is a very very good 3rd CB. I'll be thrilled if McCann or one of the guys on the PS can develop into the same type player.

I like the guy.. but he has been ABSOLUTELY ABUSED for the last two years. 2 weeks, one against the lowly Lions, isn't going to change that.

He constantly gets beat, and beat for big plays. If he continues to play better and better over the last part of this season then i'd say he should stay. But he really has to step it up as much as he's been beaten the past couple years. Saying he's a really really good 3rd CB is a stretch to say the very least. He has the potential to be a really good 3rd CB, hopefully he can start to put it all together and figure out how to make plays on the ball to knock it away and get his head around when the pass is coming. He still has some very fundamental flaws in his game.

 

[realtick]

I think people are too quick to use that go-to "he's always around the ball..." line with Scandrick, because it definitely isn't always the case. The reason why a lot of people have been down on him is because he has penchant for being toasted. Yes, he does have spurts of good play and is around the ball at times, but the is being overused on Scandy in general.

Also, I keep hearing this thought that he's a good tackler. I completely disagree. He is a willing tackler, but that doesn't mean he's a good tackler. Just last game he was diving at a ball carriers ankle without wrapping allowing the runner to get past him. I believe even the broadcasters mentioned what poor technique it was. That's not to single him out because our CBs as a group are poor tacklers. People sometimes equate an occasional hard hit or physical tackle with being an overall good tackler.

I don't think Scandy is starting CB material, at least not for prolonged periods. Although, he did look much better playing outside than in the slot.

 

[baj1dallas]

I don't know that he will ever be more than #3 CB.

I would say he's about an average #3 in the league, maybe slightly above in tackling and slightly below in coverage. I don't know what games people watch but there aren't a whole lot of nickel corners who shut the opposition down every week.

 

[baj1dallas]

Also, I keep hearing this thought that he's a good tackler. I completely disagree. He is a willing tackler, but that doesn't mean he's a good tackler.

How many CBs in the league would you describe as "good" tacklers?

 

[realtick]

How many CBs in the league would you describe as "good" tacklers?

Right, I like this game....

I name four or five and then you say "meh, that's just four or five in the entire league..." in effort to generalize all CBs as poor tacklers, thus making Scandy not that bad after all...

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

I don't recall seeing Scandrick making bad tackles against Detroit. He definitely came up and made several nice hits, including one in the backfield.

In response to the other guy, all 5'9" of Antoine Winfield is the best tackling cornerback in the NFL. That guy is a black hole for run plays, and always has been. :laugh2:

 

[CowboyWay]

If he works himself REAL hard, and gets a few breaks, he might end up being mediocre.