How is Tyler Warren doing

[MarionBarberThe4th]

no doubt his numbers would be better with a real QB
but I simply do not see the threat so many claimed he would be

Would witten have been worth 11th overall pick ?

 

[gtb1943]

Would witten have been worth 11th overall pick ?

Seven years after he was drafted, maybe. But once again that is hindsight. Anyone drafted that high must be as much as possible a sure PRo Bowl player at least. And while warren might be that, TE is not that important a position. We took Brooker high because we clearly value OG more than most teams. I had no real problem with taking him at that time because what was on the board then really was pretty meh in my opinion. And we did have a large hole at RG.
And also, to be blunt, our record with first rd picks on O linemen was so good that also played into my acceptance. Considering our putrid record otherwise.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Seven years after he was drafted, maybe. But once again that is hindsight. Anyone drafted that high must be as much as possible a sure PRo Bowl player at least. And while warren might be that, TE is not that important a position. We took Brooker high because we clearly value OG more than most teams. I had no real problem with taking him at that time because what was on the board then really was pretty meh in my opinion. And we did have a large hole at RG.
And also, to be blunt, our record with first rd picks on O linemen was so good that also played into my acceptance. Considering our putrid record otherwise.

Man it’s a simple question

I say yes you take what witten gave at #11 overall


Booker is fine I guess but what would our record be without him? Didn’t the someone’s jsut trade away Greg zebel and quennen Nelson? Those guys are gettable and don’t change much it seems


We’ve had guards


So with the whole Warren thing and me thinking I was proven right is bc now we got Pickens whom we don’t want and booker whom is gonna sign a massive contract extension and retire without any noteworthy moments same as Fredrick and Zach Martin .


I honestly think you can draft a Warren and trade dak (this is all 2024-25 stuff) and let a Joe Milton and Warren and cd and flournoy and like Bucky Irving revamp this whole team


Alas

 

[gtb1943]

Man it’s a simple question

I say yes you take what witten gave at #11 overall


Booker is fine I guess but what would our record be without him? Didn’t the someone’s jsut trade away Greg zebel and quennen Nelson? Those guys are gettable and don’t change much it seems


We’ve had guards


So with the whole Warren thing and me thinking I was proven right is bc now we got Pickens whom we don’t want and booker whom is gonna sign a massive contract extension and retire without any noteworthy moments same as Fredrick and Zach Martin .


I honestly think you can draft a Warren and trade dak (this is all 2024-25 stuff) and let a Joe Milton and Warren and cd and flournoy and like Bucky Irving revamp this whole team


Alas

you are going from a failed argument by judging a player on where he was drafted by what his career in the NFL showed
By that criteria Larry Allen should have been a top ten pick. Any great HOF player should be a top ten pick.


You can only judge a draft pick by what was known at the time the pick was made

at the time the pick was made with Warren, he was all hype. Now if he had been chosen say in the 20's of the first rd, that was SOMEWHAT defensible, but at 11? no way.
To pick someone in the top ten or real close to it, he better show IN COLLEGE to be an incredible player.

And judging ANY PLAYER by what his team accomplishes or DOES NOT accomplish is total horsecrap.
Even at QB, look at Jim Kelly. Four times to the SB and one loss by a missed FG. Yet somehow you hold that against him>that is idiotic

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

you are going from a failed argument by judging a player on where he was drafted by what his career in the NFL showed
By that criteria Larry Allen should have been a top ten pick. Any great HOF player should be a top ten pick.


You can only judge a draft pick by what was known at the time the pick was made

at the time the pick was made with Warren, he was all hype. Now if he had been chosen say in the 20's of the first rd, that was SOMEWHAT defensible, but at 11? no way.
To pick someone in the top ten or real close to it, he better show IN COLLEGE to be an incredible player.

And judging ANY PLAYER by what his team accomplishes or DOES NOT accomplish is total horsecrap.
Even at QB, look at Jim Kelly. Four times to the SB and one loss by a missed FG. Yet somehow you hold that against him>that is idiotic

Maybe you’re right