How Much Do I Hate The Cheatriots
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HeavyBarrel
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I hate that today's younger/newer fans have no idea how irrelevant that spare franchise was for 40 years while teams like the Cowboys, 49ers, Packers, Steelers, etc...were building this league.
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Apparently the NFL thinks they owe Kraft a favor for getting CBS to broadcast the NFL games, as if it wasn't the other way around...
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muck4doo
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The funny part is Eli of all people gave you butthurt twice.
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I rooted for the Giants the first time, because I didnt wanna see Pats complete the perfect season...
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I rooted for the Patriots because no way Miami goes undefeated if Roger doesn't miss most of the season injured and freaking Washington makes the Super bowl.
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Bend over Rogah - here comes another butt hurt.
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http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/9/8/9276715/patriots-belichick-brady-cheaters-spygate-deflategate
I have not closely followed Spygate over the years, but I learned quite a bit from the above article and I found the comments by DSH_97 - a Steelers fan - to be compelling.
I started out liking Brady. I'm a Michigan fan and he is a former Wolverine. After the SB win over the Rams I said he would be this era's Montana.
And while Brady is a great QB I admit to contempt for him and the Patriots organization. I respect the Steelers - even the 70s Steelers - far more than NE. The aura of cheating that surrounds NE is more than this football fan can stomach.
I'm hoping Manning walks off into the sunset with a 2nd Lombardi or that Fitzgerald and Palmer win one late in their careers. All three are class acts and deserving.
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What is it about those comments that you found compelling? You do know that stealing signals is perfectly legal, right?
You mean the guy that sexually assaulted a trainer in college is a class act? Can't say I agree with you there.
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Rogah,
I haven't followed the Spygate issue over the years but, intuitively, it seems to me that "stealing signals" and "legal" are oxymoronic. I can't imagine Tom Landry or Bill Walsh telling their staffs to do something like that.
I don't know of the above incident. I can't imagine Manning would have done anything like that. Carson Palmer, like Manning, is a Christian who is serious about his faith. I think Fitzgerald is a pretty humble athlete who is immensely talented. If he has a past at the University of Pittsburgh I am not aware of it. Obviously, if what you say is true that is awful.
I still like Peyton and am rooting for him to end on a high note. He's clearly at the end of a brilliant career. I would also like to see Palmer and the Cards win. I rooted for Warner and the Cards vs the Steelers.
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Thirteen months ago, if the hypothetical question was asked, a QB accused of using HGH would be consided a worse offense than a ball under 2 psi.
All the moralist ranting again over it's not what you did, but which team you did it on that matters.
Where I work, this site is blocked. And it's in Dallas. Besides, I've been too busy for this.
All the moralist ranting again over it's not what you did, but which team you did it on that matters.
Where I work, this site is blocked. And it's in Dallas. Besides, I've been too busy for this.
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"Stealing signals" is the generic term assigned to the act of watching the signals your opponents call in, watching the subsequent play, then trying to deduce a pattern between those two events to use to your advantage later on.
It may sound oxymoronic to say "stealing signals is perfectly legal", but stealing signals is perfectly legal.
As for whether Walsh or Landry ever stole signals, can't say I know for sure, but I sure do know Jimmy Johnson admitted doing it regularly to the best of his ability. And he admitted videotaping them for a while. In other words, he did exactly what spygate was about.
Well, he did. When he was in college he teabagged a trainer who was working on him. The University gave her a settlement. Manning gave her an out of court settlement. Then, a couple years later, he had to give her another out of court settlement when he violated the terms of the first out-of-court settlement by talking about her.
Lest we think this is purely he-said-she-said, the lone witness of the assault wrote to Manning: "You might as well maintain some dignity and admit to what happened. ... Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. ... Do the right thing here."
I'm not saying the guy should be in jail for something that happened 20 years ago, but he isn't exactly the sweet, good-natured "class act" the media (and all those commercials) portray him to be.
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