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I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?
 
rodd94;4658163 said:
I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?

I can see why. 4-12?
 
a_minimalist;4658165 said:
I can see why. 4-12?

So your not worried about the OL? No G and Arkin who has never played centre in there?
 
The line is obviously concerning, and I think that bringing in a vet is a wise thing to do. If Costa and Arkin are our Centers this season, we will have a bad year. Not 4-12 bad, but maybe a 7-9 season.
 
rodd94;4658166 said:
So your not worried about the OL? No G and Arkin who has never played centre in there?

I never said that. But, 4-12? Come on man.
 
rodd94;4658163 said:
I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?

fact is that we had needs in lots of areas including OL. we didn't reach or over pay for anyone. and let the draft come to us and took what FA offered as they were no real viable options out there. and most of us knew this wasn't going to get solved in one year. so what do you want to bet that next year's FA annd draft will focus on OL and saftey positions. you don't act desparate, you don't reach. when you do, it inevitably gets screwed up

and my suggestion to you is to go ahead and jumpp off the ledge. its doing the rest of us a favor
 
Wait, so we were 8-8 last year with a worse OL than this, but it means this year we're going to go 4-12? And you wonder why someone blasted you for this?

I'm sorry, but I don't think things have "changed." Anyone predicting 4-12 for this team is going to get blasted. Jimmy Johnson, yes that Jimmy Johnson, just predicted us at 12-4. What do you see that he doesn't?

I'm in between those numbers but I don't see us below 8-8 under any circumstance.
 
rodd94;4658163 said:
I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?

You would be right if week 1 was tomorrow but it is not. That was the whole problem with your arguement. The team did address the interior OL in free agency and still had several months to continue to address it if need be. The draft is not the final chance to upgrade your roster. There will be surprise cuts and opportunities to make a trade. My advice to you is to be patient. You actually could be in a win-win situation here if you play your cards right. If they make a move, you can say you called for it months ago, but so did alot of people. If they start the season with Costa at center, you can come here and say I told you so after he fails miserably.
 
Hostile;4658273 said:
Wait, so we were 8-8 last year with a worse OL than this, but it means this year we're going to go 4-12? And you wonder why someone blasted you for this?

I'm sorry, but I don't think things have "changed." Anyone predicting 4-12 for this team is going to get blasted. Jimmy Johnson, yes that Jimmy Johnson, just predicted us at 12-4. What do you see that he doesn't?

I'm in between those numbers but I don't see us below 8-8 under any circumstance.

Good post.
 
My favorite part is how he couldn't even wait until a single preseason down has been played to come in and tell everyone how right he was since the very beginning.
 
I think you're too thin skinned for internet message boards in general if you got "hounded off" a G-rated forum.
 
Might as well forfeit the season ........

Funny.....imagine if we did draft a OL in the first......

Then there would be threads complaining about how we have no CB's :rolleyes:

We did address the OL by signing 2 FA OL.....but because they weren't someone pet cats.....we are doomed.

That being said....I too wanted to draft a OLineman......but seeing how the draft played out......a lot of the lineman I wanted were drafted higher then expected.

Worst thing we could of done was reach on a pick and not stick with our draft rankings. We all see what happens when we draft for need instead of BPA

Also....yes I understand there were some high name FA OLineman.....but it takes 2 to tangle.....We don't know if those players wanted to come here and we also need to consider the price tag. IMHO overpaying for a Guard isn't a great idea.

I wonder if it's doom and gloom on the steelers board......their top pick isn't cracking the starting lineup anytime soon and it's not like their OL is made up of all pros.

Anyways.....it's all a process....can't fill every hole on the team with superstars....I too wish we had better reports comming out about our OL work.
But let's at least see a few games before we proclaim a 4-12 season.
 
rodd94;4658166 said:
So your not worried about the OL? No G and Arkin who has never played centre in there?

Our line was awful last year and what did we go? It can't get worse than last year man.

BTW.. the "i told you so" posts are rather old, dont' you think?

:rolleyes:
 
Jimmy did not predict us to finish 12-4. He was asked if that was possible and he said yes if Romo plays great.
 
4-12 is a pretty crazy prediction. 8-8 last year with worse. So I'd say we get more wins with a team that has improved at other positions as well.
 
rodd94;4658163 said:
I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?

Did your 4-12 prediction also take into account a horrible punter who has shanked a couple of balls in camp so far. If not, you may want to change it to 2-14.:)

Would you be so kind as to tell us how all these OL drafted in 2012 are performing so far? DeCastro isn't exctly tearing things up in camp so far. And I heard Viking Kalil struggled early on in his first preseason game.
 
Lodeus;4658336 said:
4-12 is a pretty crazy prediction. 8-8 last year with worse. So I'd say we get more wins with a team that has improved at other positions as well.

Not gonna shoot the OP for suggesting 4/12 but that is a little over the top.

In this league lately, 4/12 becomes 12/4 pretty quickly .

If he were to go back to last yrs training camp and have THAT ol deal with these injuries he would easily have predicted 4/12 methinks.

Its only early in the process. We havent gotten all the guys back healthy and havent see a single pre season game. Let alone looked at any cuts.

the strong showing of Crawford and the additions at CB easily suggest we will be better this yr.

If Murray hopefully has a healthy season we are stronger there too.

Homeristically !2/4 would not be out of the question. my generally optimistic side sees 10/6 or 11/5


stay cool
 
Aye, 4-12 is drastic, but I can understand the concern. That said, while there haven't been wholesale changes to G-C-G, some tweaks have been made and I would like to get a glimpse as to what that means before declaring the season a complete disaster.

This team had giant holes going into March - too many to be addressed in one offseason. I feel the FO did pretty well considering... the Cows may not have added a couple of Pro Bowlers up front, but sometimes those tweaks work out well. And I do believe the shift in OL philosophy (enter Callahan) should benefit what Garrett is trying to do offensively.

I will be the first to say this organization went too long in trying to work the line on the cheap, but at least they haven't completely ignored it as they once did. If they can identify and develop better, we may be onto something. Tyron Smith was certainly a step in the right direction. Call me crazy, but I think you can build from there.
 
rodd94;4658163 said:
I used to be a poster on here but in April after the draft i said that Dallas had made a MASSIVE mistake by NOT drafting an OL man and was hounded off this site by Silverbear and many others for saying it would come back to haunt them that they'd spend over $100m on CB and a $1 on the line. Now 4/5 months down the line it seems everyone is saying what i said months ago. How times have changed. No one agreed with me then but i bet you all do now.

My prediction then was with a weak OL we would be 4-12. This i stick by. Who thinks different now?

I think you are a tad premature on this chest thumping.

Our veteran G's are coming back now and the line should be solidified. We have a few nice young OL if you look.

I would wait for at least 1 preseason game before proclaiming something like this.
 

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