How to fix their anemic pass rush?

[Cowboyny]

Outside of Maxx Crosby there aren't any truly pass rushers available, with the Raiders early success, he is most likely off the block. Could be the reason why Cowboys management pivoted in acquiring the high-end press corner. They still could add a mid-level type like a Josh Sweat, but probably would have to overpay. Point is, they isn't an elite edge rusher coming to save this defense.

As I mentioned, in another post Mike Pettine has worked with CP in the past while both of them in Green Bay. Matter of fact the Cowboys tried to hire him as a consultant onto CP's staff. His last stop was with the Vikings under Brain Flores, but he also was Rex Ryan's DC with the Jets:

Jets designed a defense around Darrell Revis with an average pass rush. They used a ton of simulated pressures. Not saying Porter is on the level as Revis, nor has to be, but this can work to generate more pressure and force the ball out more quickly.

 

[817Gill]

Outside of Maxx Crosby there aren't any truly pass rushers available, with the Raiders early success, he is most likely off the block. Could be the reason why Cowboys management pivoted in acquiring the high-end press corner. They still could add a mid-level type like a Josh Sweat, but probably would have to overpay. Point is, they isn't an elite edge rusher coming to save this defense.

As I mentioned, in another post Mike Pettine has worked with CP in the past while both of them in Green Bay. Matter of fact the Cowboys tried to hire him as a consultant onto CP's staff. His last stop was with the Vikings under Brain Flores, but he also was Rex Ryan's DC with the Jets:

Jets designed a defense around Darrell Revis with an average pass rush. They used a ton of simulated pressures. Not saying Porter is on the level as Revis, nor has to be, but this can work to generate more pressure and force the ball out more quickly.

New name to consider, Khalil Mack.

Chargers are done and the Cowboys can afford him. Has 3 sacks this season and is a proven pass rusher despite his age. As a rental for 12-13 games or so he’d be a great addition.

 

[jazzcat22]

I believe Crosby was never in play at all.
Hence the Cowboys' lower offer than the Raiders' asking price.
But if they bit on the offer, then they would feel they got a good deal.

And agree, he is probably off the table now. Unless a team is willing to give up those 2 - 1st round picks. And probably none are.

Some analysts said about JPJ while in Pittsburgh. He is the type of player you can build a defense around. So you are onto something there.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

We ok. Just wait for Miller to fall outta bed

 

[Denim Chicken]

Khalil Mack and Josh Sweat are potentially available according to Schefter.

 

[Cowboyny]

New name to consider, Khalil Mack.

Chargers are done and the Cowboys can afford him. Has 3 sacks this season and is a proven pass rusher despite his age. As a rental for 12-13 games or so he’d be a great addition.

Question is, would he move the needle enough?

 

[75boyz]

Simple answer. Learn how to draft or acquire through free agency better edge players.

Should have and could have kept Clowney at the barest of minimums.

BUT currently the hope is that EZ can someday hopefully reach a Dorance Armstrong type ceiling. Hopefully. I know, what a ceiling.
One trick pony speed rusher Malachi Lawrence is no different. If he's even that good.
It goes way way back in years on continuous misses with pass rushers.
They hit on 2 in the last 15 years ie DLaw & Micah and totally lucked into Micah, and neither is here now.

Wanting or thinking that the existing players are better than they are or are not being coached properly is just denial to the fact that the team has a very strong historical record of NOT being able to draft/acquire good pass rushers.
Period.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Wil McDonald is another possibly available for trade.

 

[jazzcat22]

We ok. Just wait for Miller to fall outta bed

Some one, his nurse from the old folks home, needs to put down the guard rails.

 

[LouBrown]

I don't think you're really going to be able to acquire much passrush juice on the edge. Josh Sweat is probably the best option there.

They badly need interior rushers. Depending on how teams perform, some pending free agent options might be:

Adetomiwa Adebawore, DeForest Buckner - IND
Maliek Collins - CLE
Moro Ojomo - PHI
Daron Payne - WAS

 

[fivetwos]

How about the guys that are here just playing better?

 

[KDM256]

I am looking at Von Miller to do some soul searching because he talked a big game about he can roll out the bed and get 8 sacks and haven't seen him make a play yet in 4 games. 5 million to podcast and promote your chicken company isn't going to cut it..

We talked crap about how bad Sam Williams was here but he has better numbers than 40 while being 2nd string to Verse in Cleveland.

 

[John813]

Might as well check the Steelers roster and their pass rushers the way it's been going recently lol

 

[baltcowboy]

Outside of Maxx Crosby there aren't any truly pass rushers available, with the Raiders early success, he is most likely off the block. Could be the reason why Cowboys management pivoted in acquiring the high-end press corner. They still could add a mid-level type like a Josh Sweat, but probably would have to overpay. Point is, they isn't an elite edge rusher coming to save this defense.

As I mentioned, in another post Mike Pettine has worked with CP in the past while both of them in Green Bay. Matter of fact the Cowboys tried to hire him as a consultant onto CP's staff. His last stop was with the Vikings under Brain Flores, but he also was Rex Ryan's DC with the Jets:

Jets designed a defense around Darrell Revis with an average pass rush. They used a ton of simulated pressures. Not saying Porter is on the level as Revis, nor has to be, but this can work to generate more pressure and force the ball out more quickly.

Blitz Barham, Overshown, and Downs. Play more man defense.

 

[75boyz]

How about the guys that are here just playing better?

IF they are capable. I'm ALL for it.
That's a really really big IF though.

 

[Kevinicus]

Blitz more, and don't play soft zone when you do (unless it's 3rd and VERY long).

 

[RandyOh]

I don't think you're really going to be able to acquire much passrush juice on the edge. Josh Sweat is probably the best option there.

They badly need interior rushers. Depending on how teams perform, some pending free agent options might be:

Adetomiwa Adebawore, DeForest Buckner - IND
Maliek Collins - CLE
Moro Ojomo - PHI
Daron Payne - WAS

idk about needing more interior rushers. We need to run more plays that take advantage of Quinnen being able to rush the QB. Hes one the best 3techs in the league and he should be let lose on interior Olines.

 

[LouBrown]

idk about needing more interior rushers. We need to run more plays that take advantage of Quinnen being able to rush the QB. Hes one the best 3techs in the league and he should be let lose on interior Olines.

Doesn't really matter how good he is because he is going to be doubled so often. They can't capitalize on that because they have no other passrush talent.

 

[RandyOh]

Doesn't really matter how good he is because he is going to be doubled so often. They can't capitalize on that because they have no other passrush talent.

We already dont run enough plays for Williams to rush the passer. Why waste our limited assets to go get another player who wont be able to play unless its a 4-3 formation? Rather go after the edge that can help out no matter what formation they are running out there. I get what your saying and if we didn't change from a 4-3 base to this multiple defense then i would agree 100%. Also Overtone is making some noise out there. Let the kid continue to cook.

 

[Stak78]

I am looking at Von Miller to do some soul searching because he talked a big game about he can roll out the bed and get 8 sacks and haven't seen him make a play yet in 4 games. 5 million to podcast and promote your chicken company isn't going to cut it..

We talked crap about how bad Sam Williams was here but he has better numbers than 40 while being 2nd string to Verse in Cleveland.

I have seen Von Miller make a move of the RT and go untouched and force the QB throw it away on 3rd down. If he were on the other side, the quarterback’s blind side, it most likely would have been a sack. It puzzles me that they play Miller on that side.