How to keep Murray

[Nightman]

If Dallas offered Murray 4/16m and plan to tender Dunbar for 2.4m, why not just offer Murray the whole 6m and draft another change of pace back instead of Dunbar. He has shown flashes, but nothing that isn't easier to replace than Murray's production.

Randle and Williams offer insurance to Murray breaking down from all the extra work this year, although I think Murray's work ethic and training regimen will counter any curse of 370.

Offer Murray 3/20m with 12m guaranteed, 6m signing bonus and that might get it done. That would give Murray a nice chink of change and not mortgage the future for Dallas. He would have a cap numbers of 4m, 6m, 10m(easy to walk away from with only 2m in dead money).

 

[slick325]

Not a bad idea but I'm pretty sure Murray's agent, as well as Murray, will want an extra year or two with more money.

 

[TheEnigma]

I'm thinking Dunbar may not be on the team next year anyways.

The issue with Murray isn't finding the money to pay him, but whether he will be worth the money going forward.

The front office seems to have switched from rewarding past performances and are instead paying for future performance.

 

[AbeBeta]

Not a bad idea but I'm pretty sure Murray's agent, as well as Murray, will want an extra year or two with more money.

Length is irrelevant. That's sort of basic.

He should get about 16 mill in the first two years. You spread that cap hit out and worry about it when Romo calls it a day

 

[alicetooljam]

Ive wondered if 6/year may be the magic number...and is still a discount.

 

[AbeBeta]

The issue with Murray isn't finding the money to pay him, but whether he will be worth the money going forward.

Is that really any sort of argument? This is the case with any FA.

2nd contracts haven't been our issue. 3rd contracts have

 

[slick325]

I'm thinking Dunbar may not be on the team next year anyways.

The issue with Murray isn't finding the money to pay him, but whether he will be worth the money going forward.

The front office seems to have switched from rewarding past performances and are instead paying for future performance.

This is spot on. Also, the front office seems more cognizant of having a good "team" instead of star players surrounded by spare parts. The Murray decision will come down to how much money will be left to pay others.

 

[Nightman]

I'm thinking Dunbar may not be on the team next year anyways.

The issue with Murray isn't finding the money to pay him, but whether he will be worth the money going forward.

The front office seems to have switched from rewarding past performances and are instead paying for future performance.

Too me it boils down to if the team is better or worse with Murray the next couple years. I say they are better and it's not really close. The names getting thrown around like Ingram, TRich and McFadden do not impress. Getting a RB in the draft seems like the way to go, but it isn't as sure a thing as people make it out to be.

 

[Chuck 54]

We offered; now he gets to test the market and make a decision about where to play.
Dallas would be a bunch of idiots to give a RB big money without letting him test the market. Why overpay?

 

[slick325]

quote="AbeBeta, post: 5951166, member: 753"]Length is irrelevant. That's sort of basic.

He should get about 16 mill in the first two years. You spread that cap hit out and worry about it when Romo calls it a day[/quote]

I'm with you but think that 4yrs 26mil-28mil will do it. The added year generally means more money tacked on to the deal (signing bonus and guaranteed money).

 

[Nightman]

Length is irrelevant. That's sort of basic.

He should get about 16 mill in the first two years. You spread that cap hit out and worry about it when Romo calls it a day

I've come full circle on Murray, but I think 16m for 2 years may be too much

 

[cowboys69fan]

"How to keep Murray?"


Ask his soon to be wife, he's getting married on another thread, apparently she knows how this is accomplished, he's not getting away from her!

 

[Nightman]

"How to keep Murray?"


Ask his soon to be wife, he's getting married on another thread, apparently she knows how this is accomplished, he's not getting away from her!

What she offered is something completely different from what Dallas can offer

 

[IAmLegend]

He's gone..

 

[Galian Beast]

If Dallas breaks the bank for Murray, all of the goodwill I've shown the front office for smart management over the last few years will wash away entirely.

 

[yimyammer]

What she offered is something completely different from what Dallas can offer

Not necessarily and that wouldn't be a hit to the cap

 

[TheEnigma]

Too me it boils down to if the team is better or worse with Murray the next couple years. I say they are better and it's not really close. The names getting thrown around like Ingram, TRich and McFadden do not impress. Getting a RB in the draft seems like the way to go, but it isn't as sure a thing as people make it out to be.

I'm leaning toward the draft being the way to go as well. This is supposed to be a good draft for running backs.

If there isn't a stud waiting for us at the bottom of the first I kind of want to trade back and pick up another pick in the second or third. If you look at the running backs who ran for 1000+ yards this year, the majority were taken in those two rounds.

 

[Nightman]

I'm leaning toward the draft being the way to go as well. This is supposed to be a good draft for running backs.

If there isn't a stud waiting for us at the bottom of the first I kind of want to trade back and pick up another pick in the second or third. If you look at the running backs who ran for 1000+ yards this year, the majority were taken in those two rounds.

I went back and looked at the last 3 drafts. The RBs taken in all rounds have performed pretty well. The one big bust is TRichardson and maybe Bishop Sankey. David Wilson got injured but was producing.

But Lacy, Bell, JHill, West, Bernard, McKinnon, DRobinson, MBall, Ellington, Stacy, Mason, Hyde and others have all had success.

The problem is the draft is so far after the start of FA and the team has to decide on RB well before the Draft. Missing on Murray and in the draft would leave the team with Randle. Dunbar and Williams.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If Dallas breaks the bank for Murray, all of the goodwill I've shown the front office for smart management over the last few years will wash away entirely.

I guess it all depends on what breaking the bank is. To me, I don't care too much how much we pay him, if it's a relatively short deal, that we can get out of if need be. While I think everyone saying that we should offer him 4 years 16 million isn't being realistic, I don't think any team will offer a RB his age 6 years or more. Maybe 5 but a team believing he puts them over the top, but most deals will likely be around 4 years 28-32 million.

 

[AbeBeta]

I've come full circle on Murray, but I think 16m for 2 years may be too much

If we can get 2 years close to this last one, it is too little