How will Dallas fix this fundamental flaw in the defense?

thekavorka

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It seems like teams can easily exploit this defense through screens, swing passes, and passes in the flat. Jags did this; the Giants were able to easily do this in both games. The Saints thrived on this. It's already week 14. This has to be the primary concern for the defense.
 

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thekavorka;1226765 said:
It seems like teams can easily exploit this defense through screens, swing passes, and passes in the flat. Jags did this; the Giants were able to easily do this in both games. The Saints thrived on this. It's already week 14. This has to be the primary concern for the defense.

...pas rusher other than Ware. Keeping Ware in zone coverage every so often while getting effective pash rush from another position will make the teams think twice about how easy it is to get playmakers out on the edge.

Ware matches up well against skilled offensive players out in space. Our inside LBs seem to have problems covering the areas vacated by the OLBs.
 

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thekavorka;1226765 said:
It seems like teams can easily exploit this defense through screens, swing passes, and passes in the flat. Jags did this; the Giants were able to easily do this in both games. The Saints thrived on this. It's already week 14. This has to be the primary concern for the defense.

Well, gotta admit Brees is so bright and accurate that he can kill a team underneath...I don't know if Vick is going to be able to exploit that particular weakness...but you are right - it's a fundamental flaw that has to be corrected.

The backers aren't 'complete players'..what do you do?
 

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LaTunaNostra;1226796 said:
Well, gotta admit Brees is so bright and accurate that he can kill a team underneath...I don't know if Vick is going to be able to exploit that particular weakness...but you are right - it's a fundamental flaw that has to be corrected.

The backers aren't 'complete players'..what do you do?


First and foremost, somebody has to step up and become the other pass rusher.

Second, we have the personel to play 34 or 43. We probably need to start mixing this up much more. If we ran a 43 more often, I think you would find that the effect would be more turn overs in our favor.

Third, we must stay balanced offensively. They key to winning in the NFL is do it to them before they can do it to you. You must make the other team abandon there game plan before you do. Balance is the key to that. If we stay balanced offensively, we can score on anybody. Simple as that.

Lastly, and this is really the most important one. Take care of the ball. Don't turn it over. Statistically speaking, if we can just do this one thing, we stand a very good chance of winning out the rest of our schedule.
 

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GROZ = Get Rid Of Zimmer!

Lack of QB pressure since 1995 + same DC (Campo & Zimmer) = same old problem.
 

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Trade for Shawn Merriman who has 4 sacks and 4 forced fumbles in the last 2 games.

OK....that was uncalled for.
 

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It's the basic flaw when playing a zone behind the 3-4. It's the reason that the smart 3-4 coordinators went away from the vanilla 3-4 with a majority of pressure coming from the 3 down linemen and one OLB to the zone blitzing schemes of people like Lebeau. Spears and/or Canty occasionally dropping into the flat vacated by the OLB that goes would lead to enough unpredictibility.

The other option is to widen the ILBs as San Diego does at times but the problem then becomes the offense running right up the middle. Ferguson's a nice player but cannot dominate the nose with enough consistency to allow Dallas to do this full time.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1226875 said:
It's the basic flaw when playing a zone behind the 3-4. It's the reason that the smart 3-4 coordinators went away from the vanilla 3-4 with a majority of pressure coming from the 3 down linemen and one OLB to the zone blitzing schemes of people like Lebeau. Spears and/or Canty occasionally dropping into the flat vacated by the OLB that goes would lead to enough unpredictibility.

The other option is to widen the ILBs as San Diego does at times but the problem then becomes the offense running right up the middle. Ferguson's a nice player but cannot dominate the nose with enough consistency to allow Dallas to do this full time.

The answer is 43 Stan. :)
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1226882 said:
The answer is 43 Stan. :)

:bang2: :laugh2: :bang2:

You're right but I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The 3-4 was a mistake from the beginning.


Here's hoping the new Head Coach next year understands that too.
 

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SacredStar;1226858 said:
Trade for Shawn Merriman who has 4 sacks and 4 forced fumbles in the last 2 games.

OK....that was uncalled for.

:lmao2:

I'm reminded of that Michael Jackson song, "So you wanna be startin sumptin. You got to be startin sumptin." ;)
 

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SacredStar;1226858 said:
Trade for Shawn Merriman who has 4 sacks and 4 forced fumbles in the last 2 games.

OK....that was uncalled for.
He doesn't even lead his team in sacks. How bout that?
 

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THUMPER;1226843 said:
GROZ = Get Rid Of Zimmer!

Lack of QB pressure since 1995 + same DC (Campo & Zimmer) = same old problem.

yep, we get new people in here running the D nxt yr, and the results will be dramatically different

I'll bet anybody on it too...

David
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1226823 said:
First and foremost, somebody has to step up and become the other pass rusher.

Second, we have the personel to play 34 or 43. We probably need to start mixing this up much more. If we ran a 43 more often, I think you would find that the effect would be more turn overs in our favor.

Third, we must stay balanced offensively. They key to winning in the NFL is do it to them before they can do it to you. You must make the other team abandon there game plan before you do. Balance is the key to that. If we stay balanced offensively, we can score on anybody. Simple as that.

Lastly, and this is really the most important one. Take care of the ball. Don't turn it over. Statistically speaking, if we can just do this one thing, we stand a very good chance of winning out the rest of our schedule.

Thanks for the sanity, ABQ.;)
 

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LaTunaNostra;1226947 said:
Thanks for the sanity, ABQ.;)

Thank you Barb.

It's actually pretty easy after an hour and a half of running around in the back yard in PJs and House Slippers, cussing like a fool in 20 degree weather, while the dogs sit at the back door and watch you in wonderment. Asking themselves why nobody is going out and whacking the crap out of you with a rolled up newspaper, telling you to shut up already.


;)
 

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you can't keep switching defensive philosophies. they've only been in this for 2 years, they basically have no veterans. it will take another 3-4 years to get good.

teams that have no system are doomed. they need to stick with the 3-4
 

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Easy.

Ditch the DC.

If he hasn't gotten the clue in seven years then he never will.
 
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