How would you beat the Cowboys next year?

[blindzebra]

Younger? Glover is getting old in the tooth. Ellis is now 30. We have won ZILCH in their era.

Read todays press - Its over my man! We are 3-4 Defense base.
Whine, complain, ***** about it.

And back to my point - our 3-4 front 7 is bigger than last years 4-3 front 7.

We were staying 4-3 Coakley still is here, you don't draft Canty, Spears at DE. Parcells as much said Ware can't play the whole game on an NFL Tackle at DE. Heck you stay 4-3 go get Howard. NOT HAPPENING!

Next.

So the only way to change is to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4? Right.

You keep screaming about this magical scheme, where was it last year?

The fact is the parts of the defense that were not working were getting replaced REGUARDLESS of scheme.

You can hoot and crow all you like, but on paper the best and biggest defense we can put on the field is in a 4-3. No way you can say Shanle is better than Glover. Discussion is over on that point alone.

Next.

 

[scottsp]

Take the ball out of Julius' hands on first down. Every defensive series would be predicated upon getting Dallas in second and third and long. Then I would mix looks up front and come roaring after Bledsoe. There are a lot of guys who are really good when you force them to go hot. Drew is not one of them.

Banging away off tackle against the Cowboy defense is a sound approach, IMO. In time, this might prove to be a rather formidable unit, but not right away. There are questions on the defensive front, particularly on the edge. Exploit that. And until Dallas proved to me they could pressure the quarterback, they would get a steady diet of play action.

 

[Badattitude]

How would I beat the Cowboys? Same as we lost last year....run it up the middle and playaction deep looking for the big gainer of PI. We gave up 400 points last season not by accident. I'm also not sure the pass rush will improve right away w/ the Youngans.

 

[Nors]

So the only way to change is to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4? Right.

You keep screaming about this magical scheme, where was it last year?

The fact is the parts of the defense that were not working were getting replaced REGUARDLESS of scheme.

You can hoot and crow all you like, but on paper the best and biggest defense we can put on the field is in a 4-3. No way you can say Shanle is better than Glover. Discussion is over on that point alone.

Next.

Parcells has forgotten more about defense than you know. And he agrees with ME. We are now base 3-4 and forget your 4-3 dream. Its over. Go debate your self silly on "what ifs"

Fact is we are a base 3-4 defense in 2005. Nothing more to say.

 

[Nors]

How would I beat the Cowboys? Same as we lost last year....run it up the middle and playaction deep looking for the big gainer of PI. We gave up 400 points last season not by accident. I'm also not sure the pass rush will improve right away w/ the Youngans.

Bz - we gave up 400 plus points last year......

Lets keep status quo! Luckily Parcells is running this team!

 

[blindzebra]

Parcells has forgotten more about defense than you know. And he agrees with ME. We are now base 3-4 and forget your 4-3 dream. Its over. Go debate your self silly on "what ifs"

Fact is we are a base 3-4 defense in 2005. Nothing more to say.

Oh, the ego. A coach that has always played the 3-4 agrees with YOU, that's rich.

So wanting to replace a DT, DE, one possibly two LBs is staying status quo? That is even funnier.

I see if change is not your vision of change it does not exist?

I want to put the best 11 players on the field the majority of the time, that makes me wrong? If so, why did we not go 3-4 last year Nors?

 

[junk]

No argument from me on having scrub RCB and no FS (less Woodson) in the past. I was all for adding veteran CB's of Pro Bowl stature for a long time.

Be nice to actually have a PASS rush now too.

Agreed....at least we are all hoping that these rooks can provide some pass rush.

A lot of pressure on the youngsters this year.

 

[Nors]

Oh, the ego. A coach that has always played the 3-4 agrees with YOU, that's rich.

So wanting to replace a DT, DE, one possibly two LBs is staying status quo? That is even funnier.

I see if change is not your vision of change it does not exist?

I want to put the best 11 players on the field the majority of the time, that makes me wrong? If so, why did we not go 3-4 last year Nors?

Because he was stuck with an aging, undersized 4-3 base. He shored up RB/TE/C for the futurefirst 2 drafts.

He drafted 3-4 Parts and signed Fergi - all good. If we were staying 4-3 you REALIZE he would have drafted different players and traded for Howard? You get that? Its over. There is no 4-3 under your christmas tree. I truly respect the wise elders of this board that pick their battles. You are running into a buzzsaw - daily.

 

[blindzebra]

Because he was stuck with an aging, undersized 4-3 base. He shored up RB/TE/C for the futurefirst 2 drafts.

He drafted 3-4 Parts and signed Fergi - all good. If we were staying 4-3 you REALIZE he would have drafted different players and traded for Howard? You get that? Its over. There is no 4-3 under your christmas tree. I truly respect the wise elders of this board that pick their battles. You are running into a buzzsaw - daily.

Canty is the only player we drafted that came from a 3-4.

I had us taking Spears, another DE, and Burnett with our first 3 picks in the draft and that is ARCHIVED, so fill free to look it up. So don't tell me these guys can't play a 4-3.

Keep in mind I can show you wanting Merriman and Davis a 226 pound safety that you wanted to move to OLB with our first two picks and a TE in the 2nd.

Shall we compare our draft predictions Nors?

Your buzzsaw needs a much sharper blade, cause this one only tickles.

 

[Cowchips]

If Witten is everything he's billed to be and teams start blitzing Bledsoe, he is gonna have a passing clinic out there. It'll be the same as when Bledsoe had Coates in NE and Centers/Riemersma in Buffalo in 2002. As long as he has an outlet receiver who isnt double covered he'll pick a team apart if they try to blitz him.

 

[scottsp]

Passing clinic. Muahaha.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can understand this, yet you think me and badattitude are trolls or misguided or whatever.

When you can produce a post where I indicated you, or badattutude for that matter, are trolls, I will consider your point of view. Till then, you should clean your own back yard. There's plenty of work there for you.

 

[Kangaroo]

If Witten is everything he's billed to be and teams start blitzing Bledsoe, he is gonna have a passing clinic out there. It'll be the same as when Bledsoe had Coates in NE and Centers/Riemersma in Buffalo in 2002. As long as he has an outlet receiver who isnt double covered he'll pick a team apart if they try to blitz him.

Are we talking about the same QB ? Bledsoe has a Career completion perctenage of 57%. He only has 3 season at 60% but one does not count he only threw 66 total passes due to injury; to few pass to gauge the whole year. So he only has 2 seasons at 60% 1997 & 2001.

The pickem apart by Bledsoe is a reach

 

[Cowchips]

57% isnt great but it is better than average for a drop back, deep passing qb. When you consider dink and dunker's like Brady and Favre are only at 61%, Bledsoe's years when he had Coates and Reimersma fit right into those numbers.

 

[Nightshade]

I'd pound it up the middle and off tackle. Mix that up with short play action passes to RB's and TE's. if it's 2nd or 3rd and long we'll be in the nickel so screens might be very effective depending on down and distance.

On offense, I'd run alot of stunts and compliment that with the blitz. This would help contain Julius. Although Bledsoe is the key. Rattle him and you've got the game.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

57% isnt great but it is better than average for a drop back, deep passing qb. When you consider dink and dunker's like Brady and Favre are only at 61%, Bledsoe's years when he had Coates and Reimersma fit right into those numbers.

I don't know that I would agree with this. The concept that Bledsoe is a deep passing QB is somewhat misleading IMO. I think he likes to hold the ball and throw deep but I don't think he's a deep passer, per say.

Over his career, his average YPA is 6.58. Farve is 7.1 and Brady is 6.9. and that's with a 2.0 thrown in his rookie year. Heck, Carter was a 6.6 YPA career passer.

 

[Kangaroo]

57% isnt great but it is better than average for a drop back, deep passing qb. When you consider dink and dunker's like Brady and Favre are only at 61%, Bledsoe's years when he had Coates and Reimersma fit right into those numbers.

Sorry aboyt late response busy at work then I had training afterwards

OK 41 QB's threw at least 98 passes or more last year but to qualify on the stats list for the QB ranking on espn "To qualify, a player must have at least 14 attempts per team's games played"

OK only 33 met this requirement last year. So all ranking are based off the 33 qb's that qualified.

Bledsoe Break down goes like this.
completion% = 26th 56.9%
YPA = 26th 6.52
Int = tied at 26th with 16 (the lower the better ranking on int)
TD = 14th with 20
QB Rating = 25th at 76.6

Lets put this in perspective Chad Hutchinson who did not qualify for these rankings but just to give you and Idea on his stats. He threw a 161 pass Attempts

completion% = 57.1
YPA = 5.61
Int = 3
TD = 4
QB Rating = 73.6

Vick who is not know for his passing skills and has been knocked for it had a 56.4 compeltion % 7.21 ypa
14 td 12int and a 78.1 qb rating.

Now how is Bledsoe better than average where he only had one stat that was even average

Calling Bledsoe average is incorrect he was below average last year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=com%&league=nfl&season=2&year=2004

 

[Cowchips]

So you discount the most important stats in favor % and yards per catch? 14th touchdowns and 26th in ints is pretty f'kn impressive on a run-oriented offense. Those are the stats that matter. As for the other stats, you have to consider his situation. His tight end was Mark Campbell (who?) and he had no protection.

I would say his td's and his int's put him above average. Well ahead of Vinnie Testicles.

 

[Kangaroo]

So you discount the most important stats in favor % and yards per catch? 14th touchdowns and 26th in ints is pretty f'kn impressive on a run-oriented offense. Those are the stats that matter. As for the other stats, you have to consider his situation. His tight end was Mark Campbell (who?) and he had no protection.

I would say his td's and his int's put him above average. Well ahead of Vinnie Testicles.

Int work differnt as I posted 26th is bottom of the barrel the lower the int the higher you rating oh you missed that part or I did not explain it properly. His Int was among the worse in football 1st in int threw only 4 int's went by the fewest not the other way around so no I did not. Bledsoe only had one category that was average

We could also go by int ratio% Bledsoe ranked 22nd at 3.6. The rankings go by being the best so fewest int is #1 the better ratio% is #1 so again he is below average

 

[Cowchips]

Bledsoe ran a very average, run-oriented offense. Keep in mind though that his "average" offense averaged 38ppg against NFC opponents and he was in the toughest division in football. Let's hope he turns around and becomes a top 2-3 QB, like he was in 2002. I'm betting that Witten will have a lot to do with that turn-around, coupled with an o-line that doesn't spend more time in the whirlpool nursing "injuries" than on the field playing games.