Hunkering down with a statistically brilliant QB who's a loser

BraveHeartFan;4355220 said:
They have a quality O-Line in front of them that afford Brady the time to simply pick defenses apart, as do New Orleans and Greenbay.

Giving your QB the time to rip apart defenses makes a HUGE difference and allows you to score at will and hide the deficencies of a poor defense.

Funny how you failed to mention those O-lines...or maybe it's really not funny at all.
The Rapers Oline is awful.
 
GimmeTheBall!;4354915 said:
Mens, fellow travelers, cubicle dwellers, persons of interest and trappists monks:

I come to you with a heavy heart and mental holiday detritous. It's about the man known as Tony Romo.

Tony Romo has a resume that would make Danny White proud. He yawns at 300-plus passing days. He kin do it in his sleep.
He can take NFL teams to 9-7 repeatedly. His golf swing is a work in progress, but be assured he will be an average to almost good golf player on day.
But as to football, we now come to the awful realization, as determined by my furtile brain, that he's a loser in big games. He'll fumble. He'll throw picks. He'll mismanage the clock and take a sack while the Eli Mannings of the world elude them.
Face it: Tony Romo is a loser for us.
His fans will point to the Danny White stats. His detractors will say, yeah, but that don't make the long, Ingmar Bergman-type winters any less lonelier or any more fun.
A columnist the other day wrote some startling words the other day. In a nutshell, Manning and his ilk (including Aikman) all won their Super Bowls while in their mid to late 20s. Romo will be, what, 32, next season?
Time to annoint Romo the Danny White of our time. Only Danny had more personality, as strange as that may seem.
Time to say/admit that Romo will be the interim QB until we find a real QB like Brees, Rogers, Manning, etc.
Time to start roiling the waters of march to raise our voices that we need to draft a smart and tough and leader QB. Then see Romo age out at 35 and we start over.
The Romo era is over as we know it. You know it, I know, Bob Dole knows it.
No more Oh-Nos.
No more false hopes from a statistically brilliant QB who falls against the true giants of December.
Unfortunately for us, Romo puts butts in the seats and if it makes Dollars, it makes sense to Jerry. Romo is nothing more than a small school over achieving undrafted free agent for good reason.

You need the stomach to do this. You need the wisdom to go up against the best of the best. Romo makes a living out of murdering sorry teams, and teasing us with great teams, but he can't consistently beat great defenses. To be a Super Bowl quarterback, you need "IT", and Romo doesn't have "IT". His fans are so hurt right now because they want to prove guys like me wrong and blame everything around him. But Romo's been here for years, through some pretty good defenses, some real solid offensive lines, some great WRs, through 3 coaches, and no matter what Coach, what offensive line, what receivers, what defense, HE JUST CAN'T GET IT DONE. Trade this bum to some dumb team who will give up a 1st rounder for his empty stats, and let's start the rebuilding process. And for goodness sake, GET RID OF THE 3-4 DEFENSE.
 
HUnkering down with a board full of losers who don't appreciate what they have!
 
Dodger;4355231 said:
Honest question...how many times do you see Brady, Rodgers, or Brees running for their lives after the snap?
I see Rodgers and Brees get the ball out quick and scramble yes. I see the Raper run for his life constantly and still be clutch.Romo is good but he isnt on these guys level.
 
Judas;4355241 said:
Unfortunately for us, Romo puts butts in the seats and if it makes Dollars, it makes sense to Jerry. Romo is nothing more than a small school over achieving undrafted free agent for good reason.

You need the stomach to do this. You need the wisdom to go up against the best of the best. Romo makes a living out of murdering sorry teams, and teasing us with great teams, but he can't consistently beat great defenses. To be a Super Bowl quarterback, you need "IT", and Romo doesn't have "IT". His fans are so hurt right now because they want to prove guys like me wrong and blame everything around him. But Romo's been here for years, through some pretty good defenses, some real solid offensive lines, some great WRs, through 3 coaches, and no matter what Coach, what offensive line, what receivers, what defense, HE JUST CAN'T GET IT DONE. Trade this bum to some dumb team who will give up a 1st rounder for his empty stats, and let's start the rebuilding process. And for goodness sake, GET RID OF THE 3-4 DEFENSE.
Perfect post. Well said.
 
aikemirv;4355250 said:
HUnkering down with a board full of losers who don't appreciate what they have!
You're in love, it's understandable.
 
Doomsday101;4354927 said:
Yeah I could not believe how poor Romo did in coverage? the guy can't cover anyone one on one and sucks at tackling.

Oh wait the problem was not the play of the QB. Never mind. :lmao:
Tell that to New England and New Orleans. Your it's a team theroy is a big failure, and always has been. So please find new material.
 
Judas;4355241 said:
Unfortunately for us, Romo puts butts in the seats and if it makes Dollars, it makes sense to Jerry. Romo is nothing more than a small school over achieving undrafted free agent for good reason.

You need the stomach to do this. You need the wisdom to go up against the best of the best. Romo makes a living out of murdering sorry teams, and teasing us with great teams, but he can't consistently beat great defenses. To be a Super Bowl quarterback, you need "IT", and Romo doesn't have "IT". His fans are so hurt right now because they want to prove guys like me wrong and blame everything around him. But Romo's been here for years, through some pretty good defenses, some real solid offensive lines, some great WRs, through 3 coaches, and no matter what Coach, what offensive line, what receivers, what defense, HE JUST CAN'T GET IT DONE. Trade this bum to some dumb team who will give up a 1st rounder for his empty stats, and let's start the rebuilding process. And for goodness sake, GET RID OF THE 3-4 DEFENSE.

Bingo. I'm 100% on board with you and the OP here. The homers in love with Romo won't change their opinion until they have too.. much like what happen with the Newman supporters. Where are they now? I've been saying Newman is terrible for 2 years now while others said I was crazy. Some people just have to see it for themselves.
 
Does anyone have the stats on how our offensive line rates with others in the league? You would think it was dead last by the way everyone talks here. Every time Romo had pressure on him against the Giants he looked like a fish out of the water... meanwhile when Eli had pressure (And yes, he did have pressure about 5 or 6 times... he was calm, poised, collected, and burned the hell out of us). There is a big difference between Eli and Romo. Eli is approaching elite status and Romo shows signs of brilliance and then comes crashed down extremely hard. You can't EVER count on him. Ever.
 
ufcrules1;4355278 said:
Bingo. I'm 100% on board with you and the OP here. The homers in love with Romo won't change their opinion until they have too.. much like what happen with the Newman supporters. Where are they now? I've been saying Newman is terrible for 2 years now while others said I was crazy. Some people just have to see it for themselves.
And I don't care how many of them come to his offense, they will NEVER EVER EVER convince me that he's a winner. I've played sports, I've played with winning quarterbacks, I've seen winning QBs, and winning quarterbacks find a way. They don't rely on anything else, they carry the team if they have to, and if the offensive line and the defense wants to chip in, then that's just icing on the cake.

But we'll have to sit though this crap year after year. If Jerry hasn't completely lost his mind, he should go after a QB in the 1st round. To win in this league, you need a WINNING quarterback and a WINNING Head Coach. We have neither. We don't have a winning GM either, but I know for a fact that won't change.
 
juck;4355285 said:
We Will Never Win A Ring With Romo!


so hilarious.......to me, to see those words in with the picture of Dirk and his trophy .....Great placement there, and a prefect example.......
 
Hey Gimme', I'll give it a college try at your intended cause...discussion. To have a discussion, one has to participate for that intent, so I won't attempt to be an English teacher for a scatter gun English Lit 101 class.

My first look, wouldn't be on failure and who is running the offense at the close of the game.

Instead, I would look at the game's overall pattern of development.

In a physically demanding month of December, the entire team once again, showed a tendency to not focus at the beginning of a game against a strong opponent. It instead fell behind almost to the point of futility of even making any kind of come back to be competitive.

The indicator would show a team not showing up for that contest, and not just a Tony Romo with still a very swollen throwing hand.

Tony, despite having to dodge and get off the turf consistently. And being driven into the turf by a turn-style released Giant line, brought the team within distance to be considered competitive. There, only to have this team allow that opponent, as a trend here, to take the game completely out of considerations for being overcome.

No, the supporting cast dried up by the fourth quarter once again. A fumble or pass interception here, only shows the intensity and small window to operate within, that Tony had to put up with. Eli at least had three to four seconds to unmolested, view progressions of his receivers.

Actually, this season, Tony had cleaned up his side of mistakes. He only threw about ten interceptions the entire year. That December was the most black and blue month for Tony, doesn't mean that he was additionally vanishing in ability to lead, or play. His decrease in his own errors, would tend to show more focus by himself, but a decrease in level of support by the team. As it's been said many times, it's hard to throw down field when you are lying on your back.
 
Judas;4355272 said:
Tell that to New England and New Orleans. Your it's a team theroy is a big failure, and always has been. So please find new material.

Both teams have ELITE QB's and excellent OL. Their D maybe terrible but generates TO.

We have none of the above.

Romo is very good but not ELITE.
 
ilovejerry;4355152 said:
Ernie and bert BEST SIG EVER !!!!!! hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhaha

the way bert feels and reacts, is how i am feeling when reading this....
 
Judas;4355241 said:
Unfortunately for us, Romo puts butts in the seats and if it makes Dollars, it makes sense to Jerry. Romo is nothing more than a small school over achieving undrafted free agent for good reason.

You need the stomach to do this. You need the wisdom to go up against the best of the best. Romo makes a living out of murdering sorry teams, and teasing us with great teams, but he can't consistently beat great defenses. To be a Super Bowl quarterback, you need "IT", and Romo doesn't have "IT". His fans are so hurt right now because they want to prove guys like me wrong and blame everything around him. But Romo's been here for years, through some pretty good defenses, some real solid offensive lines, some great WRs, through 3 coaches, and no matter what Coach, what offensive line, what receivers, what defense, HE JUST CAN'T GET IT DONE. Trade this bum to some dumb team who will give up a 1st rounder for his empty stats, and let's start the rebuilding process. And for goodness sake, GET RID OF THE 3-4 DEFENSE.
I just want to know one thing. Is it possible, in your opinion, that Romo has never had enough supporting talent around him since he's been the starting QB? Enough to go against the really good teams? Is it not possible that he isn't the John Elway type who can beat teams almost by himself, that he's below that tier and needs the help of others, that he is probably head and shoulders better than everyone on the roster, with a few possible exceptions, and that most everyone else is, contrary to popular belief, just average?

Is that at least a possibility? I'm just curious what you think.
 
Judas;4355272 said:
Tell that to New England and New Orleans. Your it's a team theroy is a big failure, and always has been. So please find new material.

New Orleans gives Brees the time to sit read the newspaper and still find the open man.

It is not theory it is fact always has been always will be and you can ask any coach or person that actually have knowledge about the game of football evidently you don't.
 
Judas;4355295 said:
And I don't care how many of them come to his offense, they will NEVER EVER EVER convince me that he's a winner. I've played sports, I've played with winning quarterbacks, I've seen winning QBs, and winning quarterbacks find a way. They don't rely on anything else, they carry the team if they have to, and if the offensive line and the defense wants to chip in, then that's just icing on the cake.

But we'll have to sit though this crap year after year. If Jerry hasn't completely lost his mind, he should go after a QB in the 1st round. To win in this league, you need a WINNING quarterback and a WINNING Head Coach. We have neither. We don't have a winning GM either, but I know for a fact that won't change.

Yeah, we need one of those "winners". You know, like everyone said Vince Young was 3 years ago. Or how everyone said Mark Sanchez was 2 years ago. Or how everyone said Josh Freeman was last year. Or how Tim Tebow was a winner 3 weeks ago. Those guys don't make it look pretty or put up the big stats, but they've got "it", By God.

This guy told me they were winners and he should know. He has a little experience in the game and knows what it's about.

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Judas;4355295 said:
To win in this league, you need a WINNING quarterback and a WINNING Head Coach. We have neither. We don't have a winning GM either, but I know for a fact that won't change.

If you need all three why do you place all the blame on Romo? By your statement QB cannot win without BOTH a WINNING head coach AND GM.

Seriously...Troy couldn't carry this team in his prime.
 

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