Hurd's spot not guaranteed

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Just took below article off the SA newspaper. Actually I understand from reading the various reports out of TC that Hurd is having a very good TC and is definitely #4 WR at this point. He's also a good ST so of he continues to look good at WR, he makes the team. Also understand Austin is again looking good & if that continues he also makes the team. As for Stabuck, the longer he is unable to get on the field, the less chance he makes the team & the more probability he is put on PUP. If he finally gets on the field & shows life, we will carry 6 WRs.

Chad Peters: Hurd's roster spot not guaranteed


Brackenridge alum Sam Hurd carved a nice niche for himself last year, excelling on special teams and providing quality depth at wide receiver for the Cowboys.
But that doesn't mean he's guaranteed a spot on this year's team. If the Cowboys decide to keep five receivers instead of six, Hurd could possibly find himself on the outside looking in.
Cowboys coach Wade Phillips declined Saturday to speculate how many receivers he might keep, saying he's just interested in keeping the best players regardless of position.
The Cowboys are crowded at receiver with Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton all locks to make the team. Injured fourth-round pick Isaiah Stanback, a converted quarterback from Washington, also figures to be a favorite to secure a spot given his draft status, though that's far from a guarantee. He must first recover from shin splints and actually practice for the first time here at the Alamodome.
That could leave Hurd battling with Miles Austin, a standout kickoff returner, for the fifth spot if that's all the Cowboys decide to keep.
 

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I think it's a lock that we keep 6 WRs. None of the top 6 guys would come close to making it to the PS. It would be extremely foolish to spend a 4th on a project like Stanback and not give him the time to develop and see what he can do.
 

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theogt;1567554 said:
I think it's a lock that we keep 6 WRs. None of the top 6 guys would come close to making it to the PS. It would be extremely foolish to spend a 4th on a project like Stanback and not give him the time to develop and see what he can do.

I agree, but it isn't unprecedented (green).

I never got the love for Hurd - he hasn't really impressed me, he did a few good things in the preseason, but I always thought Austin was a little more impressive. WRs always seem to become camp favorites (Terrence Copper).
 

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I'd like to see Stanback put in IR reserve status and keep both Hurd and Austin. But yeah, last WR roster spot will be heavily contested whether be 5th or 6th spot, as is with several other positional roster spot.

We have many talented young guys so it should be interesting to see who will be outside looking in when season starts.
 

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Crown Royal;1567557 said:
I agree, but it isn't unprecedented (green).

I never got the love for Hurd - he hasn't really impressed me, he did a few good things in the preseason, but I always thought Austin was a little more impressive. WRs always seem to become camp favorites (Terrence Copper).

Hurd is the real deal. He is playing on another level in training camp and made some great catches last year. The Arizona game stands out when Terry was hurt. I think we keep Hurd and Austin.
 

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Unless Stanbach gets on the field soon and really shows something special he is going to have a hard time beating out Hurd and/or Austin. If he does show something special we could end up keeping 6 this year.

Rector can probably kiss his chances goodbye unless he does something really special on ST and even then it would be iffy. It's kinda too bad because I think he really has some talent.

Overall I guess it is a good problem to have.
 

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Crown Royal;1567557 said:
I agree, but it isn't unprecedented (green).

Green might have been the exception. He couldn't play.

We do not know what Stanback can do. Intrigue alone might keep him around. His injuries could easily allow us to justify stashing him for a year.
 

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Crown Royal;1567557 said:
I agree, but it isn't unprecedented (green).

I never got the love for Hurd - he hasn't really impressed me, he did a few good things in the preseason, but I always thought Austin was a little more impressive. WRs always seem to become camp favorites (Terrence Copper).
The difference with Green was that he came in healthy and we saw a good bit of him and simply didn't like what we saw. Also, he wasn't exactly a project like Stanback is. He wasn't new to the WR/KR position.

And though I was impressed with Green's moves in college, Stanback's running ability, coupled with his size, really is on a totally different level than Green.
 

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Alexander;1567569 said:
Green might have been the exception. He couldn't play.

We do not know what Stanback can do. Intrigue alone might keep him around. His injuries could easily allow us to justify stashing him for a year.

theogt;1567572 said:
The difference with Green was that he came in healthy and we saw a good bit of him and simply didn't like what we saw. Also, he wasn't exactly a project like Stanback is. He wasn't new to the WR/KR position.

And though I was impressed with Green's moves in college, Stanback's running ability, coupled with his size, really is on a totally different level than Green.

Oh, I understand all this, and think that Stanback is pretty safe, considering his injury and the need to actually learn the position. I was just saying that by grace of a 4th round pick isn't the only thing he needs to guarantee a roster spot.
 

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While I like the potential of Stanback, he should have to earn a spot on this team besides being a guy that makes the team based on potential and being a 4th round pick and Jeff Ireland's guy.



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Crown Royal;1567576 said:
Oh, I understand all this, and think that Stanback is pretty safe, considering his injury and the need to actually learn the position. I was just saying that by grace of a 4th round pick isn't the only thing he needs to guarantee a roster spot.

The thing about Stanback is Dallas could quite possibly cut him and have no problem getting him on the practice squad. I'm not sure there are a lot of teams looking to make a roster spot for a 4th round rookie who has never played the position and has injury issues. So if Dallas were to cut him, I'm thinking most teams would probably think he still has those issues to overcome and won't pick him up off of waivers.




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Yakuza Rich;1567595 said:
The thing about Stanback is Dallas could quite possibly cut him and have no problem getting him on the practice squad. I'm not sure there are a lot of teams looking to make a roster spot for a 4th round rookie who has never played the position and has injury issues. So if Dallas were to cut him, I'm thinking most teams would probably think he still has those issues to overcome and won't pick him up off of waivers.




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I don't know, shin splints aren't exactly career ending injuries. Painful and annoying, yes, but easily overcome. I doubt, just going by the reported reaction of some other teams during the draft, that he would make it to the practice squad...and it'd be a damn shame if he got away from us before we even get a good look at him.
 

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Yakuza Rich;1567595 said:
The thing about Stanback is Dallas could quite possibly cut him and have no problem getting him on the practice squad. I'm not sure there are a lot of teams looking to make a roster spot for a 4th round rookie who has never played the position and has injury issues. So if Dallas were to cut him, I'm thinking most teams would probably think he still has those issues to overcome and won't pick him up off of waivers.




YAKUZA

that's a chance that I wouldn't want to take. Stashing him on IR for the year is the worst case scenerio for me. This guy will open eyes once he get's on the field. Plus, teams will be lining up to sign him once he's cut.
 

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that's a chance that I wouldn't want to take. Stashing him on IR for the year is the worst case scenerio for me. This guy will open eyes once he get's on the field. Plus, teams will be lining up to sign him once he's cut.
A second day pick, small school quarterback conversion project with an injury problem? I think you might be overvaluing him just a bit. Personally I'm more in favor of stashing him on IR than cutting him if we like his potential that much. But if he doesn't do something to actually earn a spot and we can't get him on IR then I would have no problem cutting him and seeing if he would clear waivers.
 

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How long is training camp? Six weeks? Not even a week has been used up so far. It is far too early to pronounce anybody a candidate for IR.


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Actually a better option is to put Stanbuck on PUP if we sure he can get really healthy and then fully participate rather then stashing him on IR which doesn't allow any room for his development at all this year.

Also agree with others that there is no way Stanbuck makes it thru waivers because of of shin splints after recovering from his other more important injury. Sorry there was too much reporting that several other teams planned draft him right after we did (with our 3rd pick in 4th round). It costs teams nothing to grab a player off waivers if they interested and it's done all the time.
 

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I think he will be our #3 QB. We will only have Romo and Johnson on the roster. We will keep 6 wr's including Stanback as a QB/WR. Remember Crayton also has experience at QB.
 

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sago1;1567624 said:
Actually a better option is to put Stanbuck on PUP if we sure he can get really healthy and then fully participate rather then stashing him on IR which doesn't allow any room for his development at all this year.

Also agree with others that there is no way Stanbuck makes it thru waivers because of of shin splints after recovering from his other more important injury. Sorry there was too much reporting that several other teams planned draft him right after we did (with our 3rd pick in 4th round). It costs teams nothing to grab a player off waivers if they interested and it's done all the time.
Shin Splints aren't going to keep Stanback from missing all of training camp, I bet he's within days of practicing, could happen today. So I just can't see them holding him out of practice until September, because once he practices he can't go on the PUP.

I think Hurd is easily the fourth guy on the depth chart and may take some snaps away from Crayton during the season.

I think Stanback is the fifth guy because of his draft status/potential, they basically invested that in him by drafting him so high despite his injury and inexperience. Austin is fighting the rest of the field for a possible sixth spot, I think its his to lose at this point with Jamel Richardson most likely the only other candidate.

Richardson is most likely going to the practice squad, I do wonder since he is so big if he could play a little TE ala Novacek and Shannon Sharpe.
 

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Why do you guys keep harping on the injury problem? It's shin splints, it's not that bad.

He would never make it to the practice squad, absolutely guaranteed.
 
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