Hypothetical -- Midseason switch back to a 3-4

[perrykemp]

If the Cowboys defense continues to be on record pace in terms of yards allowed, passing yards allowed, and passing TDs allowed after 8 games should the Cowboys consider junking the Kiffin 4-3 and going back to a 3-4?

If nothing else, it sure seems like it would help Lee and Carter who clearly aren't comfortable with the deep drops required in the Kiffin 4-3.

Just not sure who plays the other 3-4 OLB position when Spencer out for the year and Victor Butler shipped out of town.

Food for thought anyway. Mid-season switches of philosophy like this aren't completely uncommon in the NFL.

 

[Setackin]

If the Cowboys defense continues to be on record pace in terms of yards allowed, passing yards allowed, and passing TDs allowed after 8 games should the Cowboys consider junking the Kiffin 4-3 and going back to a 3-4?

If nothing else, it sure seems like it would help Lee and Carter who clearly aren't comfortable with the deep drops required in the Kiffin 4-3.

Just not sure who plays the other 3-4 OLB position when Spencer out for the year and Victor Butler shipped out of town.

Food for thought anyway. Mid-season switches of philosophy like this aren't completely uncommon in the NFL.

I'd say even if the cowboys were 2-6 in week 8 absolutely not...

 

[perrykemp]

I'd say even if the cowboys were 2-6 in week 8 absolutely not...

Why not?

 

[Future]

We aren't really getting beat in the trenches all that badly - other than a lack of passrush, which has mostly to do with personnel - so changing the look would be irrelevant, imo.

 

[Setackin]

Why not?

Cause to me if u make a mid season switch like that... it would just feel like they were throwing in the towel.... now make a mid season trade for DL help im all for.

 

[dcstands4]

With the injuries it wouldn't be bad. I would absolutely NOT come out and say we're switching back (because it would be seemed as failure) but most 3-4 team run a 4-3 set at time. We could do the opposite.

 

[landroverking]

No

 

[Zman5]

Not positive, but I thought I actually saw Ware rush the passer standing up few times.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

This would be hilarious.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No way. Who is the NT in the 34 and where is the strongside OLB? No, not the 34. Now if you wanted to say that we were going from a Cover2 43 to a man on 43 scheme, maybe.

 

[craig71]

Not positive, but I thought I actually saw Ware rush the passer standing up few times.

Your eyes haven't deceived you, he's done that a few snaps every game i've seen.


Craig

 

[Playmaker247]

I don't think 4-3 or 3-4 is the problem. Its more we play way to much zone.

 

[BAT]

If the Cowboys defense continues to be on record pace in terms of yards allowed, passing yards allowed, and passing TDs allowed after 8 games should the Cowboys consider junking the Kiffin 4-3 and going back to a 3-4?

If nothing else, it sure seems like it would help Lee and Carter who clearly aren't comfortable with the deep drops required in the Kiffin 4-3.

Just not sure who plays the other 3-4 OLB position when Spencer out for the year and Victor Butler shipped out of town.

Food for thought anyway. Mid-season switches of philosophy like this aren't completely uncommon in the NFL.

What kind of 3-4 and who would coach it? You can incorporate concepts of other schemes but a full fledged change within the season is not realistic.

 

[CooterBrown]

This defense is predicated on rushing the passer and getting sack/fumbles or forcing the quarterback into bad throws resulting in interceptions. The zone keeps the defense facing the QB more so the floaters and bad passes are easier to pick off. With a great pass rush it works because teams have difficulty driving the length of the field without a mistake. "Bend but don't break" stuff. BUT, if you get no pass rush, your zone is cut to pieces and the turnovers you must have to succeed don't happen. The concept isn't bad and has worked in this league for years, but as I said, it is based on something this team does not have: great pass rushers. Where coaches fail is in refusing to change the scheme to fit the players they do have and stubbornly try to make the scheme work with players who are not physically capable of executing it. The old adage, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" applies here. There is no chance Monte Kiffin will ever change his defensive scheme, plans, or signals. The players and coaches seem to have great respect for Kiffin, but I am neither coach nor player, and I do not want to see three more mediocre seasons hoping the draft will provide the right pass rushers to make this defense work. I think he needs to be fired, and I think Jason Garrett needs to be the one to do it, NOT Jerry Jones.

 

[RS12]

Not gonna happen but the idiocy of switching schemes without the personnel to do so, and drafting offense instead, has certainly readed it's ugly head, hasnt it?

 

[65fastback2plus2]

nope...we have ZERO nose tackle

 

[sbark]

Just as Ryan used 4-3 sets sprinkled in every game..........no reason to sprinkle In 3-4 looks inside Kiffens D several times per game to change things up.

Saw Kiffen used a zone blitz in the 1st half vrs. Denver, dropped the young DE into coverage on a RB.......it was the wrong Qb to do it against--Manning went right at it........

 

[links18]

. I think he needs to be fired, and I think Jason Garrett needs to be the one to do it, NOT Jerry Jones.

Garrett isn't doing anything JJ hasn't signed off on. Whose idea was it to can Ryan and hire Kiffen in the first place?