I don't think the Cowboys will draft a QB anytime soon

RunDMC

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You can say that about any QB. Your bias against Romo is showing.

My bias against Romo? Not sure if serious.

I think Romo is the best quarterback in the league, the MVP, one of the best ever, I absolutely love the man as much as any Cowboys fan..

He's 35 years old and running on burrowed time. I'm just saying we need to prepare ourselves if he gets injured again.

Seriously Romo is my favorite Cowboy along with Dez and Witten. I love everyone of them and I sincerely hope they get a championship, they deserve it.
 

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As long as our wagon is tied to Romo, it doesn't make much sense to draft a high round QB. Cassel probably ends up being the backup next year and I think will be decent if he has to play a few games. Same as any other team.

As long as Romo is here, we need to keep trying to add good players regardless of offense or defense. Everytime we get a better starter somewhere on the field, it helps Romo.
 

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I don't think the Cowboys will draft a QB anytime soon

I think they draft one in 2016, as they should. Unless they get involved in a rehab project like JFB or Kaepernick.
 

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My bias against Romo? Not sure if serious.

I think Romo is the best quarterback in the league, the MVP, one of the best ever, I absolutely love the man as much as any Cowboys fan..

He's 35 years old and running on burrowed time. I'm just saying we need to prepare ourselves if he gets injured again.

Jerry just said the other day Romo will be the man in Dallas for another 5 or 6 years. You may disagree but that should tell you what the FO is thinking on the subject. How financially feasible would it be putting a QB on the roster with talent that rivals Tony's only to have them sit on the bench for six years? Good QB's do not grow on trees and this league does not groom QBs anymore, the good ones play as a rookie. Yes Romo is 35, that's not that old for a talented QB, he is in his prime. Other teams are lucky to have even one QB with Romo's talent so why would it be any different in Dallas? If Romo gets injured again we are no different than any other team that loses their starting QB. Why do you act like this is an anomaly in Dallas?
 

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Good analysis. This whole drafting a qb to develop and ready to go when the old one hangs em up is a myth. Who are they grooming in Denver or New Orleans? It just seems like it's only a problem with the Cowboys

maybe because we don't care about the other teams - Rodger's is the best example
 

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Which Qb(s) has garrett ruined...exactly?

MAYBE ruin was the wrong word...but he picked Brad Johnson and Brandon Weeden....2 guys that have not/will not work anywhere else in the NFL after dealing with Dallas....The kid he drafted in the 4th round out of Texas A&M was here for 3+ years....and he NEVER.....NOT ONCE....looked like a QB that could be effective in the Preseason....let alone in a real game. He said Brandon Weeden was the most improved player on the team coming into this year....we all know how that turned out. So my point is....he has not developed, made better, mentored any QB that has come through Dallas since he has been the offensive coordinator/head coach....so I do not want him getting his hands on a QB we spent a first round pick on. And let's be clear....Garrett WAS a QB in the NFL....so we SHOULD have a build in advantage with him picking QBs....but since he has been abysmal at it...I think we know all we need to know about Garrett and his ability to evaluate the QB position.
 

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We also need to draft an LB high . We can't rely on Lee or Mcclain and Hitchens has been dissapointing . We need a stud in the middle.
 

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Counting the last game of the 2013 season, Romo has missed games on 3 different occasions to 3 different injuries.

He has missed 8 out of 25 games outright.

He's been unable to finish 3 out of 25 games due to being knocked out to injury.

At least 2 of out those 25 games (the 2014 San Fran game, and the 1st Eagles game of 2014) he has been totally ineffective due to injury.

By my count that's 13 out the Cowboys last 25 games the team has been unable to count on/rely on Romo.

That's 52% of the Cowboys last 25 games they have been unable to count/rely on Romo.

That is what we call a trend.

Anybody who doesn't look at these metric while also taking into consideration that Romo is 35 years old is just not being realistic.

Hope is not a strategy.

They need to seriously think about Romo's replacement. I'd draft a guy in the first round (if one is there) and plan with the idea he'll be the likely starter going into the 2017 season.

excellent post. But like I said in another post....I don't want a new kid on the block learning what Garrett is "teaching". I don't like what we do...and we need a new voice and approach before we bring in a new QB. This is bigger than the head coach....Garrett has 8+ years with this offense...and it has run it's course. This offense is running fine with TO and Dez anchoring and Romo under center. But this offense grinds to a halt without ALL World talent at those positions. And the same cannot be said of every team in the NFL. There are plenty of teams in the NFL without a All Pro WR or an All Pro QB...and they find ways to score points, get first downs, move the ball etc... We don't even move Dez around ala the Falcons to justify the 70m price tag....we are all too content to let other teams take Dez out the game and rely on Beasley to make plays? Laughable!!!!!
 

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sorry never happen

Maybe not. I only mentioned Jerry's quote to give prospective on the FO's thoughts on the subject. It explains why no QB that can be considered a real starter, will be acquired for this team for a long time. Disagree all you want but they are being true to this philosophy, they believe in Romo and his longevity.
 

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Good analysis. This whole drafting a qb to develop and ready to go when the old one hangs em up is a myth. Who are they grooming in Denver or New Orleans? It just seems like it's only a problem with the Cowboys

Denver's going to be in big trouble when Peyton retires. Could be next year.
 

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excellent post. But like I said in another post....I don't want a new kid on the block learning what Garrett is "teaching". I don't like what we do...and we need a new voice and approach before we bring in a new QB. This is bigger than the head coach....Garrett has 8+ years with this offense...and it has run it's course. This offense is running fine with TO and Dez anchoring and Romo under center. But this offense grinds to a halt without ALL World talent at those positions. And the same cannot be said of every team in the NFL. There are plenty of teams in the NFL without a All Pro WR or an All Pro QB...and they find ways to score points, get first downs, move the ball etc... We don't even move Dez around ala the Falcons to justify the 70m price tag....we are all too content to let other teams take Dez out the game and rely on Beasley to make plays? Laughable!!!!!

You need to find a new team if you want to do what other teams do. The Jones family will own this team until the end of time so you need to get with their philosophy or get use to being one unhappy SOB.
 

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As long as our wagon is tied to Romo, it doesn't make much sense to draft a high round QB. Cassel probably ends up being the backup next year and I think will be decent if he has to play a few games. Same as any other team.

As long as Romo is here, we need to keep trying to add good players regardless of offense or defense. Everytime we get a better starter somewhere on the field, it helps Romo.

It's getting to be a little bit too late for that. We've been building for years to add players to help Romo. If last year was any indication we should be on our SB run now. Now we have to reload again. Sooner or later it's going to be too late if it already isn't. It seems like all we do is rebuild. We rarely compete for a serious playoff spot.
 

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You need to find a new team if you want to do what other teams do. The Jones family will own this team until the end of time so you need to get with their philosophy or get use to being one unhappy SOB.

They don't tell Garrett to block a field goal....then get the ball back and run it up the gut 3 straight times and put the defense back on the field to try and to close the game out. Garrett did the SAME thing when Romo was here. He does not try to win the game....he hopes the other team will LOSE the game. And that is not on the Jones family...that is Garrett. Jerry....is a gambler...so I know that he has nothing to do with this archaic approach! Jerry did not spend a 2nd round pick on a TE 3 times since we drafted Witten....with the hope Garrett would have no idea how to use them..again...that is on Garrett! So Garrett has been given enough resources to not be on the biggest losing streak since 1989.
 

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Osweiler has looked like a stud in preseason. Not sure they are in trouble to be honest.

Don't know much about him but that's good news if he is. Every team with an aging QB should be looking to the future as well as the present.
 

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It is very rare in the NFL for a team to have the next starter waiting in the wings. I don't see Dallas bucking the trend. It will be Romo and scraps until Romo is done. The best thing we can do is build dominate OL and DL for now that will be there for the next QB. We will spend all our money on resigning the lines while we have a cheap QB.
 

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If there was any doubt before, I think it's now confirmed that QB is the most important position on the team.
Therefore it would seem prudent to put extra resources into that position each year, such as drafting one in the mid to late rounds that could be groomed but make it to the the PS, and also sign an UDFA. Look at Ryan Leaf and Joey Harrington and all the other busts that have come and gone, and it's plain to see that it really is difficult to find a franchise guy. but that means it would be sensible to look under more rocks rather than less, and sooner rather than later.

I agree that using a first rounder on one is not going to guarantee immediate success (see Aikman, et al), but it may at least set the team for the future if said team loses their #1. Unfortunately, at best case, the first 2 or 3 seasons will probably not look too good unless the #2 is solid (and who has that?). And if he busts, there goes a few more years of futility (see Cleveland).

NFL talent evaluation is a risky business, no question about it. But it would seem sensible to constantly to have a steady stream of young candidates, from which a potential franchise guy may emerge, instead of relying on someone else's rejects.
 

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I sort of see why you moved this here, but it really doesn't belong....no one is talking about the draft at this time. I think this post was relevant to the entire Romo is injured and we should have already drafted a QB idea that's in several threads. Everyone is saying we need to draft a QB this year, so this thread was intended to be about our situation with Romo, the strengths and weaknesses of the team, and why we shouldn't panic about drafting a QB just because Romo was injured this year.

No one is visiting the draft zone this time of year, and this thread will be irrelevant after our current situation plays itself out.
 

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They don't tell Garrett to block a field goal....then get the ball back and run it up the gut 3 straight times and put the defense back on the field to try and to close the game out. Garrett did the SAME thing when Romo was here. He does not try to win the game....he hopes the other team will LOSE the game. And that is not on the Jones family...that is Garrett. Jerry....is a gambler...so I know that he has nothing to do with this archaic approach! Jerry did not spend a 2nd round pick on a TE 3 times since we drafted Witten....with the hope Garrett would have no idea how to use them..again...that is on Garrett! So Garrett has been given enough resources to not be on the biggest losing streak since 1989.

You don't know what you are talking about. I don't know how you got so misinformed about what Garrett it is doing but you got it wrong. Was Garrett trying to win last year?
 
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