I don't understand the hype about Luther Burden

[INCowboysFan]

im not looking it up...i find it hard to believe...but things move to screw you over these days...

is this because of players getting paid now? or do college players not get paid and i am being played?

Zuckerberg and the tech giants say they are removing fact checking...what is real and what isnt.

anyway...this kid should be top of draft...this year if he is so special

Thats been the rule for as long as I can remember

 

[FanofJerry]

The NFL's requirement for players to wait three years after graduating high school before being eligible for the draft is primarily due to the physical and developmental demands of the sport. Here are some key reasons for this policy:

1. Physical Maturity: Football is a physically demanding sport that requires a high level of physical maturity. The three-year waiting period allows players to develop physically and mentally, ensuring they are better prepared to handle the rigors of professional play.
2. College Experience: The NFL encourages players to compete at the collegiate level, which provides valuable experience and exposure. College football not only helps players refine their skills but also enhances their understanding of the game. It acts as a developmental league for the NFL.
3. Injury Risks: The risk of injury in football is significant, and the NFL aims to protect younger athletes from the dangers of jumping directly into a high-impact professional environment without adequate preparation.

Its half truths...its mostly about saving money...and trying to preserve College sport, i would assume.

I just didnt know the NFL had a rule, if anything i would have thought it would be like the NBA...only one year removed from high school. Did the NBA take that away..I heard they were going back to allowing right out of high school kids again.

who knows. i do know that an 18 year old with some grown like Aaron Donaldson or Chris Jones could cause injury...so there is that

 

[FanofJerry]

Thats been the rule for as long as I can remember

i apologize...im only aware of the NBA rule that was implemented and was possibly just removed.

never knew the NFL had an official rule. im sure preserving college ball is part of it

 

[DoctorChicken]

The hype for Burden isn’t because of his production or his size.

It’s because of what he does at 0:38 and 0:54.



WRs either have “that” or they don’t, and Burden has it.

He is a physical YAC monster with a dawg mentality.

 

[FanofJerry]

The easiest way to stop this guy is for a defender to be cognizant of the spacing Burden likes, and then knowing he is going to catch the ball and then jump upfield to gain more space, before turning back downfield.

He is good at creating space after a catch. He has his eyes on space closest to defenders, then has a plan to create more space after catch to allow his juke ability to get free.

Just knowing the guy is going to jump upfield in space should give a defender an edge on where the guy is about to move to.

His whole schtick is, I'll take one step back to take two steps forward. Thats his space creating in math form.

 

[exciter]

I like Egbuka better at this point as well. He's risen a bit for me.

I've never been high on Burden as a round 1 guy. Tbh how differently would this team use him from Turpin anyways? That's not really the prospect's fault but Burden isn't the level of athlete someone like Jameson Williams is to excite me with his lack of size and production.

Burden is one of the best route runners to come out of college in years.
After 3 years in the NFL Turpin still doesn’t have a concept of how to run a even descent route!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Burden is one of the best route runners to come out of college in years.
After 3 years in the NFL Turpin still doesn’t have a concept of how to run an even descent route!

Loool?

Where in the world did you get that take?

I’ll find the link, but something like 67% of Burden’s receptions came within 5 yards of the LOS.

I’m not saying he isn’t capable, but you can only go with what’s on tape.

I would not get overworked if we draft him, but I just have reservations at pick 12.

 

[FanofJerry]

yeah...i almost called him out on it...but i knew he was rage baiting. look at his avatar name

all i have read on here, even if untrue, has been he has work to do on his routes.

whatever. lame attempts.

 

[cnuball21]

Loool?

Where in the world did you get that take?

I’ll find the link, but something like 67% of Burden’s receptions came within 5 yards of the LOS.

I’m not saying he isn’t capable, but you can only go with what’s on tape.

I would not get overworked if we draft him, but I just have reservations at pick 12.

I think he’s a better route runner then what he’s given credit for but that’s definitely an area of improvement.

His combine will matter - for someone that needs to continue to develop that craft I’m going to red to see a hell of athlete
to feel good about the pick at 12.

 

[exciter]

Loool?

Where in the world did you get that take?

I’ll find the link, but something like 67% of Burden’s receptions came within 5 yards of the LOS.

I’m not saying he isn’t capable, but you can only go with what’s on tape.

I would not get overworked if we draft him, but I just have reservations at pick 12.

I don’t think there’s any chance we draft him or even sniff at the position before the 3rd with 4th being more likely. They’ve been playing a 2 read offense with CD and the TE as those reads in 70% of the plays. Doubt seriously Jerry is too interested in taking reads from CD and diminishing his headliner!
I think it’s likely based on past experiences, they look at Mingo as a 2nd round pick who they now have a training camp to develop!

Length of route has nothing to do with ability to run routes. He was able to sell the route as possibly being deeper. He did so to the extent he was being talked about 2 seasons ago!

 

[FanofJerry]

I really dont want to get into long discussions about play calling and route designs, as so much can zig when you zag...its made to be purposefully complicated and posters just talk in circles when you question things....

Can anyone explain to me, briefly, the X, Y, Z assignments in football...and why they have to remain distinguished so much?

Im listening to a Brouadus(dont like him, provide better content on a regular. tell me youre an insider and prove it that his info is whack...or shut up...your lame) and Jeff Cavanaugh discuss compliments to Lamb in this draft. They arent talking about whats possible in the draft....just which WR's would work here...

My head is spinning with "is all this a bunch of mumbo jumbo to complicate things?"

I can understand having 1 guy be like Randy Moss. Stretches the field, tall, stresses out the defenses....but I dont get understand AT ALL an owner or any other GM's decision to pass on a play maker because he will take catches away from an elite paid Lamb. AT ALL.

IF this is how the NFL works..."its about not looking stupid with your money, I paid Lamb and I want him catching all the passes. Im not drafting another stud like Burden to make me look like I spent unwisely"

if this is the current state of NFL...im still watching but its lame.

I see Broadus and Jeff discussing Burden as if he might not be a good fit because of Lamb. I dont get it.

I will use the current NBA Playoffs as case study....all the teams play small ball 5 out at the end of games. Talented guys. Not one trick ponies like a Moss. They go talent when it matters.

why would an NFL club pass on a talented WR over ancient X Y Z structure that might not gell with their current star? bueller? wouldnt you want all 3 receivers being studs...not just one guy labeled a slot guy that can do things?

Again...I get one tall guy that can stretch the field/red zone bully...but other than that...i dont understand x y z structure at all. Put receivers on the field that are versatile, like NBA teams move to late game in Playoffs.

Makes no sense to me at all unless Lamb has a mandatory target percentage in his contract that we dont know about.

 

[MarkP88]

I assumed it had something to do with college players getting paid now...and that could be a lie...i cant verify anything...

i dont see why this OHIO state kid couldnt be in the NFL right now...

i dont even know about rules anymore...everything changes to screw you over...so I dont know what is true and what isnt. all yall can tell me something to create and illusion.

its sad really.

This has been the rule for many years now.

 

[FanofJerry]

This has been the rule for many years now.

I just didnt know. I guess I have never heard/read about it before....so i assumed there was no rule like NBA has/had.

Injury wise...it makes sense.

I know I read some years ago about something with preserving college sports and the money it makes...it was something along the lines of coaches dont want to coach a team with a constant revolving door of players....as in...there is no continuity, which hurts the coach...

but I guess that was about College basketball....but that doesnt make sense because they have a 1 year removed policy, or did.

so, maybe my head is playing tricks on me, i dont know.

i guess im being played from every angle...google is telling me there are has been a 19 year and a currently Braelon Allen is 20 through the full season.

so something isnt adding up here.