I don't want to draft Todd Gurley

[waving monkey]

If the reason for passing on Gyrley is his availibility the first half of the year
that will be regretted the second half and the next four years.
draft Gurley at 27. all that said who knows what the FO will do?

 

[AsthmaField]

Come on down Curley!!!

Mo and Larry are going to feel bummed you don't want them.

 

[Nightman]

So Gurley in the 3rd isn't better value than Gurley in the 1st?
Zach Martin at 16 isn't better value than Chris watt at 16?
please explain

What I believe is you take the better players regardless of round. If you think Gurley is the best RB you take him at 27. Stick to your grades. Cobb may be pretty good in the Third, but he is not nearly as good as Gurley. Trying to get cute is what gets teams in trouble. We took the best C and the best OG recently over the 3rd or 4th DTs and have been very pleased.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Give me Tevin Coleman from Indiana. Perfect fit.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Decisive north-south runner. Outstanding three-step burst into second level. Fearless between the tackles. Has dangerous jump-cut to instantly change gaps and ruin the plans of linebackers. Stays square to the line and is always in ready position to hit turbo. Fluid and flexible lower body with elite one-cut ability and natural change-of-direction talent without gearing down. Power in legs to slice through arm tackles and uses free hand as quality stiff-arm. Violent run finisher. Will duck shoulder and throw heavy forearm into tackler to prove a point. Not a content runner -- keeps feet moving after contact and won't give in. Capable hands out of backfield and willing to square up and engage pass rushers on pass plays. Hits top speed so quickly that safeties and linebackers repeatedly take poor angles, leading to long touchdowns. Half of his 28 career rushing touchdowns were of 43-plus yards, including eight of 64-plus yards.
WEAKNESSES
Treats every carry like a sprint. Must improve run tempo and patience on stretch plays. Has to learn when to keep run play-side and improve patience so he allows back-side cutback lanes to develop. Can improve out of backfield. Wasn't always in position to scan defense on screen passes, resulting in lost yardage. Pad level often a little high into contact.
NFL COMPARISON
Darren McFadden
BOTTOM LINE
His violent running style is a joy to watch, but might have to be tempered to extend his career. He is a "race car in the red" on just about every snap and refuses to give in, which leads to many big runs. Zone, gap, power ... it doesn't really matter because Coleman can fit all schemes. Has the burst and top-end speed to be a game-changing running back for a team looking for a workhorse.

 

[AsthmaField]

Man, I'm not a fan of taking a RB in the first but if Gurley is there and there aren't any defensive players that knock our socks off, I'd go Gurley with no problem.

That dude in the Dallas offense would be something to behold. Gurley with a head of steam and Frederick and Martin out in front of him would be scary for defenses. Dude is a load when he gets going. and when he gets in the open field he is a ***** to catch.

Top 10 talent without the knee. Even with the way RB's are de-valued now days. Dallas would never have a shot at him at 27 without the knee. If he's there, he's special.

 

[AsthmaField]

What I believe is you take the better players regardless of round. If you think Gurley is the best RB you take him at 27. Stick to your grades. Cobb may be pretty good in the Third, but he is not nearly as good as Gurley. Trying to get cute is what gets teams in trouble. We took the best C and the best OG recently over the 3rd or 4th DTs and have been very pleased.

Dallas took Emmitt at 17 and Atlanta was going to draft him if he made it to them. The Falcons then took their next highest rated runner in Steve Broussard.

Three picks apart. The talent was light years apart. At the time I thought Emmitt was a special runner and I didn't think Broussard was although he had good measrables.

I think Gurley is a special talent.

On the flip side of that is that Blair Thomas went second overall and he wasn't nearly as good a runner as Emmitt. The measurables were outstanding but the run instincts weren't anywhere close to what Emmitt had.

It isn't how high or low they're drafted, really. To me it is special qualities that you see in a back. Emmitt was the only RB I thought was great that year and it turned out that way (I'm definitely not always right).

Thank God that Emmitt ran a 4.65 and the Jets were in love with Thomas' 4.4 time.

I think Gurley is going to be the hands down best RB out of this draft. Two years from now I don't think we would regret spending the 27th pick on him.

 

[Hardline]

You draft elite when it falls in your lap.
That is what Gurley is.

 

[AzorAhai]

That dude in the Dallas offense would be something to behold. Gurley with a head of steam and Frederick and Martin out in front of him would be scary for defenses. Dude is a load when he gets going. and when he gets in the open field he is a ***** to catch.

Yeah Gurley is. He has that extra gear to just run away from people. The guy was a world class sprinter in high school and ran track at Georgia as well. I heard if healthy he was expected to run the 40 at around 4.4

 

[DFWJC]

What I believe is you take the better players regardless of round. If you think Gurley is the best RB you take him at 27. Stick to your grades. Cobb may be pretty good in the Third, but he is not nearly as good as Gurley. Trying to get cute is what gets teams in trouble. We took the best C and the best OG recently over the 3rd or 4th DTs and have been very pleased.

Of course.
And in my view your draft board tells you what you value and where you value it.
That was what I was responding to.

If you're 5th rated CB--who you would never take in the 1st according to your board--is there at 27 and you take him because you need a corner...all while there are 15 players sitting there at other positions that you think are better, you got terrible value by any measure...IMO.

That's why I was happy with Martin last year.

 

[Nightman]

You draft elite when it falls in your lap.
That is what Gurley is.

It worked well with Dez

 

[Macnalty]

1st rd picks have 5th year team option on the contract so they have him for 5 total years

Thanks for correcting me, I should of noted that, with taking RB I hope we move back into the 2nd rd and grab him, makes for some additional valuable picks early on for the DL. We are close to desperate unless some FA falls from the sky into our laps.
I am not convinced Todd G is the only great choice, I really like Jay from Boise State, he is a real handful to bring down just in case Gurley is lost before we select.

 

[AzorAhai]

If the Hardy news is true, I think OO is going to be the target in 1. I don't necessarily agree with it or like it, but I think its the likely choice now

 

[CATCH17]

Guys I have changed my mind.

With McFadden I now feel ok about Gurley. I think McFadden/Williams can give us some quality play until Gurley is ready

 

[BAT]

I think he is the best RB in the draft since Peterson. I'll wait for him to get healthy.

I agree with you but can understand Catch's trepidation. Combine Gurley's injury/unavailability and Jerry's friendship with Gordon, I would not stress over it either way.

 

[DuDa]

I think he is the best RB in the draft since Peterson. I'll wait for him to get healthy.

I'm with you on that. I used to agree with the OP until I spent several hours watching most of the top backs in this class. Gurley is special.

 

[Future]

San Diego is supposed to have extreme interest in Gordon at 17. I think Gordon does get drafted before Gurley due to his immediate availability.

Good, I hope they take him there and get us out of the discussion altogether.