I feel bad for Ware and Witten

[spolcyc]

Two class act HOF players that will go down as one of the best at their respective positions are, and this pains me to say almost having their careers wasted here in Dallas. Great players, not to mention great people off the field deserve to have a taste of success in their careers. Its a testament to the kind of men these two are, toiling away in mediocrity and putting on the show these two have.

 

[TonyS]

Two class act HOF players that will go down as one of the best at their respective positions are, and this pains me to say almost having their careers wasted here in Dallas. Great players, not to mention great people off the field deserve to have a taste of success in their careers. Its a testament to the kind of men these two are, toiling away in mediocrity and putting on the show these two have.

This is nothing new for Jerry. Look how he wasted and most likely prematurely ended the last years of our star players from the 90s with coaches like Switzer.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I do too, but why leave Tony out? He belongs in that group with Ware and Witten. He deserves a Super Bowl every bit as much as them.

 

[juck]

You could say that about a lot of great players on other mediocre teams. I just wish Ware was a bit crazier like Haley lol

 

[juck]

I do too, but why leave Tony out? He belongs in that group with Ware and Witten. He deserves a Super Bowl every bit as much as them.

Tony just makes way too many awful COLOSSAL mistakes. I remember when he first started playing and was doing well but was turning it over and thinking this kid has it but I just dont trust the carelessness. He hasnt changed it. i can see a bad game here and there but cmon man,these are mind boggling.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Tony just makes way too many awful COLOSSAL mistakes. I remember when he first started playing and was doing well but was turning it over and thinking this kid has it but I just dont trust the carelessness. He hasnt changed it. i can see a bad game here and there but cmon man,these are mind boggling.

Dude he's not perfect. Sure he's made his fair share of mistakes, but so does every player in football. His supporting cast has constantly let him down when he's needed them. Does he deserve some blame? Sure, but not all of it. Football is a team sport. You win as a football team and lose as one.

Bottom line is Tony has been a great player for us and a huge reason we've been competitive the last five or so years.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Dude he's not perfect. Sure he's made his fair share of mistakes, but so does every player in football. His supporting cast has constantly let him down when he's needed them. Does he deserve some blame? Sure, but not all of it. Football is a team sport. You win as a football team and lose as one.

Bottom line is Tony has been a great player for us and a huge reason we've been competitive the last five or so years.

Define competitive?

We've always had alot of talented players around Tony.. at a certain point you just have to put the team on your back if you're a truly great QB.

Peyton, circa 2006. Tony puts up numbers, but he has yet to find a way to get the job done when it matters. Like you said, not all his fault, but he's certainly a part of it.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Define competitive?

We've always had alot of talented players around Tony.. at a certain point you just have to put the team on your back if you're a truly great QB.

Peyton, circa 2006. Tony puts up numbers, but he has yet to find a way to get the job done when it matters. Like you said, not all his fault, but he's certainly a part of it.

By competitive I mean always in the playoff hunt which we pretty much always have been with the exception of 2010.

I don't agree with that we've always had talented players around Tony. If you say his first two years as quarterback of the Cowboys than yeah I agree, but when you look at the last three seasons or so we haven't had enough talent around him. The offensive line has been below average the last few years and the defense hasn't been able to come up with big stops consistently.

 

[Ren]

Witten and Ware are lucky to not only be able to make a living playing but make millions doing it

I feel really bad for Witten and Ware, they're such victims in all this

 

[RoyTheHammer]

By competitive I mean always in the playoff hunt which we pretty much always have been with the exception of 2010.

I don't agree with that we've always had talented players around Tony. If you say his first two years as quarterback of the Cowboys than yeah I agree, but when you look at the last three seasons or so we haven't had enough talent around him. The offensive line has been below average the last few years and the defense hasn't been able to come up with big stops consistently.

Alot of teams have weaknesses. You guys continue to complain that we don't have a great defense, a great running game, a great offensive line, great special teams play, great coaching, etc, etc..

Guess what? Few teams do! Yet other teams win super bowls without all these things at once.. crazy, i know.

Alot of you continue to talk about how if Tony left and went to the best overall team in the league right now (Niners) who have a great D, very good RB, very good OL, good weapons in the passing game, good coaches, etc.. he would do soo much better.

Well no kidding! Any half decent QB could compete for a super bowl with all that around them.. just ask Alex Smith. If you guys are trying to argue that Tony is a great QB, your logic is failing you with this kind of silly reasoning.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Witten and Ware are lucky to not only be able to make a living playing but make millions doing it

I feel really bad for Witten and Ware, they're such victims in all this

Tragic.

(voice of Rickey Bobbey's son in Talladega Nights)

 

[MagicMan]

Witten and Ware are lucky to not only be able to make a living playing but make millions doing it

I feel really bad for Witten and Ware, they're such victims in all this

yeah, I wouldn't cry for Ware or Witten or any in today's NFL----they get paid incredibly well compared to those back in the 60' and 70's or even 80's. A SB championship is just gravy. The others wasted their careers on bad to mediocre teams and have nothing to show for it now except broken down bodies to go with the broken promises. Talk to Ditka about it.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Alot of teams have weaknesses. You guys continue to complain that we don't have a great defense, a great running game, a great offensive line, great special teams play, great coaching, etc, etc..

Guess what? Few teams do! Yet other teams win super bowls without all these things at once.. crazy, i know.

Alot of you continue to talk about how if Tony left and went to the best overall team in the league right now (Niners) who have a great D, very good RB, very good OL, good weapons in the passing game, good coaches, etc.. he would do soo much better.

Well no kidding! Any half decent QB could compete for a super bowl with all that around them.. just ask Alex Smith. If you guys are trying to argue that Tony is a great QB, your logic is failing you with this kind of silly reasoning.

I've never really said that. I don't want him to leave and I don't think he will. I know he'd win with a great team like San Fran that goes without I'm saying.

Again I'm simply saying that too much blame has been cast on Tony's shoulders. Sure he deserves some. I'm not denying that at all, but does he deserve all of it? No. When you fail in the playoffs consistently or don't even make it sometimes it's a dissapointment as a team.

You can look at the Giants last year. Sure they didn't have a good defense statistically, but look at how they performed in the playoffs they gave up 2 points to Atlanta, 20 to Green Bay, and 17 apiece to New England and San Fran. That's incredible considering those are all relatively explosive offenses with the exception of the 49ers. I firmly believe that if you gave Romo that kind if defense he would win a Super Bowl.

 

[anj113]

Alot of teams have weaknesses. You guys continue to complain that we don't have a great defense, a great running game, a great offensive line, great special teams play, great coaching, etc, etc..

Guess what? Few teams do! Yet other teams win super bowls without all these things at once.. crazy, i know.

Alot of you continue to talk about how if Tony left and went to the best overall team in the league right now (Niners) who have a great D, very good RB, very good OL, good weapons in the passing game, good coaches, etc.. he would do soo much better.

Well no kidding! Any half decent QB could compete for a super bowl with all that around them.. just ask Alex Smith. If you guys are trying to argue that Tony is a great QB, your logic is failing you with this kind of silly reasoning.

are you really comparing the NINERs to the Cowboys? Really... Its not even close.. Its a horrible example in so many ways that are to long to list

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I've never really said that. I don't want him to leave and I don't think he will. I know he'd win with a great team like San Fran that goes without I'm saying.

Again I'm simply saying that too much blame has been cast on Tony's shoulders. Sure he deserves some. I'm not denying that at all, but does he deserve all of it? No. When you fail in the playoffs consistently or don't even make it sometimes it's a dissapointment as a team.

You can look at the Giants last year. Sure they didn't have a good defense statistically, but look at how they performed in the playoffs they gave up 2 points to Atlanta, 20 to Green Bay, and 17 apiece to New England and San Fran. That's incredible considering those are all relatively explosive offenses with the exception of the 49ers. I firmly believe that if you gave Romo that kind if defense he would win a Super Bowl.

None of us knows that for sure.. stick with statements you can qualify.

Look how Eli performed in the playoffs too, btw.

Lights out.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

are you really comparing the NINERs to the Cowboys? Really... Its not even close.. Its a horrible example in so many ways that are to long to list

Mmm.. i'd read it again.

 

[spolcyc]

I do too, but why leave Tony out? He belongs in that group with Ware and Witten. He deserves a Super Bowl every bit as much as them.

I do feel bad for Tony too, he's an amazing player and excels when things break down, but he isn't on the same block, hardly the same neighborhood as the all time great QB's. Ware and Witten belong in the same conversation as the all time greats at their respective positions.

 

[birdwells1]

Two class act HOF players that will go down as one of the best at their respective positions are, and this pains me to say almost having their careers wasted here in Dallas. Great players, not to mention great people off the field deserve to have a taste of success in their careers. Its a testament to the kind of men these two are, toiling away in mediocrity and putting on the show these two have.

Don't feel too bad because their lack of leadership is part of the reason this team is in this predicament. You can add Romo to that list.

 

[DABOYZ]

Dude he's not perfect. Sure he's made his fair share of mistakes, but so does every player in football. His supporting cast has constantly let him down when he's needed them. Does he deserve some blame? Sure, but not all of it. Football is a team sport. You win as a football team and lose as one.

Bottom line is Tony has been a great player for us and a huge reason we've been competitive the last five or so years.

Romo has always had a great supporting cast. I like how everyone brings up the 49ers when talking about Romo and a Super Bowl. The 49ers need a game manager not a turnover machine.

Yes Romo has helped win a few games to keep us COMPETITIVE. But the reality is he has lost more big games than he has won. He is what he is. A guy that makes us watch our team because we really don't know what we are gonna get week to week. He is about as inconsistent a QB as I have ever seen.

Like everyone I hope he can prove me wrong. However, after 5 years of the same old Romo, I don't believe he has it in him.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I do feel bad for Tony too, he's an amazing player and excels when things break down, but he isn't on the same block, hardly the same neighborhood as the all time great QB's. Ware and Witten belong in the same conversation as the all time greats at their respective positions.

I never said he was, but he is a terrific quarterback and one of the best in the game right now. It's hard to compare different positions especially because the quarterback position is by far the best and deepest in football. You can't just say just because Ware and Witten are higher ranked at their respective positions that means they deserve it more than Romo. Of course they are. They should be. The tight end and outside linebacker position can't touch the quarterback position in terms of talent and depth.