I feel some better about Albert Haynesworth...

silverbear;1071519 said:
Didn't say I felt sorry for him, Rack, I don't... everything that's coming down on him, he deserves... I'm just saying that I feel like maybe, just maybe, the guy's decent at his core...

I sure didn't feel that way Sunday... that's what I mean when I say I feel some better about him...

He's not that decent:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...aynesworth.suspended.timeline.0381/index.html

November 2000 - As a sophomore at the University of Tennessee, Haynesworth was suspended for the first half of a game against Kentucky after he got mad at an offensive lineman during a practice, left the field and returned with a long pole. Coach Phillip Fulmer stepped in before anyone was injured.

June 5, 2002 - Haynesworth fought two offensive linemen after consecutive plays during a Titans' minicamp practice.

August 2003 - Haynesworth was stopped during a drill in training camp by center Justin Hartwig, then kicked Hartwig in the chest.

Dec 28, 2003 - Haynesworth was deactivated for a game after he became upset during practice and threw a punch at offensive lineman Matt Martin before arguing with coach Jeff Fisher who ordered him off the field.

May 12, 2006 - Haynesworth charged with reckless endangerment after another motorist complained he tried to run a car off the interstate. The charges were later dismissed after prosecutors declined to press the case. Haynesworth claimed he was a victim of road rage and was trying to get out of the way.


This guy has a history with anger management issues.
 
WoodysGirl;1071829 said:
per Mort

The NFL has to battle the same problems colleges and high schools face. Each is inheriting a culture that has diminishing moral values. But it doesn't mean you surrender to that culture. Goodell will not wave a white flag. Upshaw will do his part within the confines of running a union.

I think the punishment is reasonable, assuming that counseling is mandated, but stuff like the above drives me crazy. Where do people get the idea that the 'culture' is more tolerant of violence today than it used to be? A hundred years ago, Ty Cobb was sitting proudly on the dugout steps, sharpening his spikes for all to see, just waiting to slice up the opposing shortstop. Football was much more brutal years ago. The 'culture' may be more tolerant of many things, but it's far far less tolerant of violent behavior than at any time in the past.
 
Draegerman;1071874 said:
He's not that decent:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...aynesworth.suspended.timeline.0381/index.html

November 2000 - As a sophomore at the University of Tennessee, Haynesworth was suspended for the first half of a game against Kentucky after he got mad at an offensive lineman during a practice, left the field and returned with a long pole. Coach Phillip Fulmer stepped in before anyone was injured.

June 5, 2002 - Haynesworth fought two offensive linemen after consecutive plays during a Titans' minicamp practice.

August 2003 - Haynesworth was stopped during a drill in training camp by center Justin Hartwig, then kicked Hartwig in the chest.

Dec 28, 2003 - Haynesworth was deactivated for a game after he became upset during practice and threw a punch at offensive lineman Matt Martin before arguing with coach Jeff Fisher who ordered him off the field.

May 12, 2006 - Haynesworth charged with reckless endangerment after another motorist complained he tried to run a car off the interstate. The charges were later dismissed after prosecutors declined to press the case. Haynesworth claimed he was a victim of road rage and was trying to get out of the way.


This guy has a history with anger management issues.

Rack Called it. Dead on.
 
silverbear;1071383 said:
Yeah, what he did was a punk thing, and it hacked me off royally... and his first apologies rang hollow, they sounded like a guy trying to avoid the most serious consequences, like legal action...

But even after Gurode's agent said that Andre did not intend to press criminal charges, Haynesworth was still saying "I deserve it", referring to his suspension... the more this goes on, the more it seems like a guy who's genuinely repentant... he also says he's gonna seek counseling, and again, this is after Gurode let him off the hook criminally...

I was surprised that Andre decided not to pursue charges, but you have to respect his decision in that, as well...

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6033280?FSO1&ATT=HCP&GT1=8705
 
Reality;1071384 said:
I personally suspect that the NFLPA negotiated a deal between Gurode and Haynesworth that basically said Andre wouldn't press charges if Haynesworth wouldn't appeal the suspension.

The last thing the NFLPA wants to see happen is what the NHL has experienced and that is to see on-field actions prosecuted in a court of law. That would undermine their association and move public sympathy on many other important issues more toward the owners' side of debates.

-Reality

Good insight.

And I thought Haynesworth was sincere too. Almost made me feel for the big lug.
 

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