I like Kellen Moore a lot as an OC

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Defenses are starting to catch up to Moore’s offensive schemes.

Also, he needs to take full advantage of the QB sneak, keep the clock running at the end of the game in situations like NO’s. and don’t have Zek in the slot, running the slant, when Pollard is sitting on the sidelines. This was done vs NO’s with Lattimore covering Zek!

It’s time for Moore to prove he really is a top OC and make needed adjustments to his schemes. The NFL is a copy cat league. Steal schemes from the best running teams. Kyle Shanahan is excellent at designing successful running plays. Steal running schemes from the Niners. Steal passing schemes from TB. Use more quick crossing patterns with subtle picks. Use the read option once in a while.

On 4th and a foot the QB sneak is almost always the best option, especially when you have a big strong QB like Dak. Tom Brady, the GOAT, runs the sneak as much as any QB in football and he is almost always successful(90% or higher).

I like that Moore try’s to take what the defenses is giving the Offense. For example, he doesn’t try to run the ball into brick wall consistently.( sometimes you do have to run into a stacked box, QB sneak for example, but you don’t want to do it consistently ) See TB game. Moore had Dak throwing the ball over TB’s tough defensive front, instead of trying to run through it.
 
he doesn't even use the plays which was successful early on in the season.where have the misdirection plays.pre snap movement and short passes gone?
 
I don’t think defenses have caught up I just think our playcalling has regressed. Especially in the run game.

It looks like ego football / our guys are better than your guys football.
 
Everybody keeps talking about how teams have "caught up to him". Players have been in and out of the lineup with injuries, Covid, and our Oline has been a case of musical chairs. Not to mention the players still have to execute. Let's get everybody back, healthy, gelling again, our coaches on the sideline, and let's see what happens.
 
Defenses are starting to catch up to Moore’s offensive schemes.

Also, he needs to take full advantage of the QB sneak, keep the clock running at the end of the game in situations like NO’s. and don’t have Zek in the slot, running the slant, when Pollard is sitting on the sidelines. This was done vs NO’s with Lattimore covering Zek!

It’s time for Moore to prove he really is a top OC and make needed adjustments to his schemes. The NFL is a copy cat league. Steal schemes from the best running teams. Kyle Shanahan is excellent at designing successful running plays. Steal running schemes from the Niners. Steal passing schemes from TB. Use more quick crossing patterns with subtle picks. Use the read option once in a while.

On 4th and a foot the QB sneak is almost always the best option, especially when you have a big strong QB like Dak. Tom Brady, the GOAT, runs the sneak as much as any QB in football and he is almost always successful(90% or higher).

I like that Moore try’s to take what the defenses is giving the Offense. For example, he doesn’t try to run the ball into brick wall consistently.( sometimes you do have to run into a stacked box, QB sneak for example, but you don’t want to do it consistently ) See TB game. Moore had Dak throwing the ball over TB’s tough defensive front, instead of trying to run through it.
You might start hating him.......the hype has totally worn off.....he can't adjust, scheme or logically call a run play......or you can call out zeke and the OL for not blocking?
 
I was never a Moore fan. Not at QB, not at QB coach. Not as OC.
However, I was coming around on him a bit mid year. But now I am back on not 100% in on him. Heck I may not even be 60% to 70% at this point.

If he stays, he stays, if he leaves, he leaves. That is about where I am at this point.

Now I know a lot is not on him, but that is not my issue at this point. He tries to be too cute at the wrong times. I hate when they just need a 1st down, but he takes a shot down field. I understand it at times, try to catch the defense off guard. But it happens too often. He can't stop trying runs up the middle, especially when it is not working. And that goes back to when he started as OC, not just this year.

As mentioned above, he goes away from what has worked in previous games. Though all defenses are different, but basic plays can still work. Slant, crossing routes, roll outs.

I also know injuries have a lot to do with it also. But still some basics just have not seemed right.
 
Bottom Line is Injuries have effected the way our offense looks and once they are all healthy it will shine again to much talent everywhere teams again will have to pick there poison

If all Three top Wr's are out where do you think the D's attention will turn to of course the run game

We are fine just normal stuff every year this team is a beast on offense
 
Defenses are starting to catch up to Moore’s offensive schemes.

Also, he needs to take full advantage of the QB sneak, keep the clock running at the end of the game in situations like NO’s. and don’t have Zek in the slot, running the slant, when Pollard is sitting on the sidelines. This was done vs NO’s with Lattimore covering Zek!

It’s time for Moore to prove he really is a top OC and make needed adjustments to his schemes. The NFL is a copy cat league. Steal schemes from the best running teams. Kyle Shanahan is excellent at designing successful running plays. Steal running schemes from the Niners. Steal passing schemes from TB. Use more quick crossing patterns with subtle picks. Use the read option once in a while.

On 4th and a foot the QB sneak is almost always the best option, especially when you have a big strong QB like Dak. Tom Brady, the GOAT, runs the sneak as much as any QB in football and he is almost always successful(90% or higher).

I like that Moore try’s to take what the defenses is giving the Offense. For example, he doesn’t try to run the ball into brick wall consistently.( sometimes you do have to run into a stacked box, QB sneak for example, but you don’t want to do it consistently ) See TB game. Moore had Dak throwing the ball over TB’s tough defensive front, instead of trying to run through it.
Defenses aren’t catching up. The offensive line is not playing well. At all.
 
he doesn't even use the plays which was successful early on in the season.where have the misdirection plays.pre snap movement and short passes gone?
Moore needs to watch film on the Niners run game. Our guys still need to block though!
 
Defenses aren’t catching up. The offensive line is not playing well. At all.
I think the O line is our biggest problem on Offense by far, but our receivers are not getting the same separation. Kellon was scheming receivers open consistently earlier this year. Not as much now!
 
Moore has gotten away from the creativity that made this offense so hard to stop early in the season. How many A-gap runs up the gut or short, 5 yard out passes have we seen the last month+?
 
Bottom Line is Injuries have effected the way our offense looks and once they are all healthy it will shine again to much talent everywhere teams again will have to pick there poison

If all Three top Wr's are out where do you think the D's attention will turn to of course the run game

We are fine just normal stuff every year this team is a beast on offense
This team has major issues on the O line right now. The O line is our weak link by far! They must improve for us to make a run! I think they can, but will they.
 
Moore has gotten away from the creativity that made this offense so hard to stop early in the season. How many A-gap runs up the gut or short, 5 yard out passes have we seen the last month+?
I agree Moore needs to adjust his schemes to help guys get open. The O line must improve too!
 
I was never a Moore fan. Not at QB, not at QB coach. Not as OC.
However, I was coming around on him a bit mid year. But now I am back on not 100% in on him. Heck I may not even be 60% to 70% at this point.

If he stays, he stays, if he leaves, he leaves. That is about where I am at this point.

Now I know a lot is not on him, but that is not my issue at this point. He tries to be too cute at the wrong times. I hate when they just need a 1st down, but he takes a shot down field. I understand it at times, try to catch the defense off guard. But it happens too often. He can't stop trying runs up the middle, especially when it is not working. And that goes back to when he started as OC, not just this year.

As mentioned above, he goes away from what has worked in previous games. Though all defenses are different, but basic plays can still work. Slant, crossing routes, roll outs.

I also know injuries have a lot to do with it also. But still some basics just have not seemed right.
I thinks it’s a few issues. Dak has been off early in games. Kellon needs to adjust his schemes, especially his run blocking schemes, and the O line needs to start blocking better. Also, receivers have dropped some easy 3rd down passes lately.
 
You might start hating him.......the hype has totally worn off.....he can't adjust, scheme or logically call a run play......or you can call out zeke and the OL for not blocking?
I’ll call out the O line as the main culprit in the offenses struggles, then Moore not adjusting his schemes.
 
Everybody keeps talking about how teams have "caught up to him". Players have been in and out of the lineup with injuries, Covid, and our Oline has been a case of musical chairs. Not to mention the players still have to execute. Let's get everybody back, healthy, gelling again, our coaches on the sideline, and let's see what happens.
I agree. I don’t trust our O line though. They must improve!
 
I don’t think defenses have caught up I just think our playcalling has regressed. Especially in the run game.

It looks like ego football / our guys are better than your guys football.
At times looking to much like Garrett coaching. Lucky vs NO’s Dak made some perfect passes and the receivers made the plays.
 

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