I love Gordon.........but........

[Zekeats]

This new guy looks even better.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/tevin-coleman?id=2552453

I have a guy crush! Wow, talk about not skipping a beat. This kid is a Murray clone with speed and vision.

 

[DFWJC]

Coleman later and still get a stud defensive player in the first would work for me.

 

[locked&loaded]

I dont really see the love for Coleman...

small hands, thin lower body, goes down relatively easy.

He is definitely fast, though..

 

[ccb04]

I like Gordon as well...and have been a fan of Coleman's for a while. Like Gurley & others too. Deeper class indeed.

As I posted in another thread.....

Former Bears college scouting director Greg Gabriel (one of the guys that pushed hard for the Bears to draft Matt Forte), has Tevin Coleman ranked as the #1 back in the draft. His take via NFL.com.....
"My thinking is that if Coleman played behind the Wisconsin line he may have run for over 2500 yards. As it was, he ran for 2036 yards, a 7.5 average per carry, 15 touchdowns and 25 receptions," Gabriel wrote. "Coleman has a complete game. He can run with power between the tackles, is creative, and consistently gets yards after contact. He has the speed to turn the corner and is elusive in the open field. As a receiver, he is very reliable, runs good routes and has very good hands. Add to that the fact that he can already pass protect and is a dangerous kickoff returner."

My Dad is an Indiana alum...so I watched some of their games. Indiana's O-Line wasn't very good. And when Nate Sudfeld went down (who's pretty decent), their 3rd string Freshman QB started the remaining 6 games...in which he threw 1 TD vs. 4 Int's & completed 48.5% of his passes for just 515 yards. Yet, Coleman still kept producing.

 

[xwalker]

This new guy looks even better.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/tevin-coleman?id=2552453

I have a guy crush! Wow, talk about not skipping a beat. This kid is a Murray clone with speed and vision.

Watch him and see what he does after 1st contact.

In the NFL he won't be running free with no contact until way past the line like he did in college.

 

[ccb04]

Watch him and see what he does after 1st contact.

In the NFL he won't be running free with no contact until way past the line like he did in college.

He wasn't always running free, and his vision/burst helped create some of those escape angles. As former Bears college scouting director Greg Gabriel noted "he can run with power between the tackles, and consistently gets yards after contact." That from one of the guys that pushed for the Bears to draft Matt Forte.

Then there's this from his NFL.com draft profile.....
Strengths
Decisive north-south runner. Outstanding three-step burst into second level. Fearless between the tackles. Has dangerous jump-cut to instantly change gaps and ruin the plans of linebackers. Stays square to the line and is always in ready position to hit turbo. Fluid and flexible lower body with elite one-cut ability and natural change-of-direction talent without gearing down. Power in legs to slice through arm tackles and uses free hand as quality stiff-arm. Violent run finisher. Will duck shoulder and throw heavy forearm into tackler to prove a point. Not a content runner -- keeps feet moving after contact and won't give in. Capable hands out of backfield and willing to square up and engage pass rushers on pass plays. Hits top speed so quickly that safeties and linebackers repeatedly take poor angles, leading to long touchdowns. Half of his 28 career rushing touchdowns were of 43-plus yards, including eight of 64-plus yards.

Rob Rang compared him to a combo of Murray & McFadden.

As I've mentioned...Indiana didn't have a great O-Line. And for roughly half the season, they started a 3rd string Freshman QB...who threw 1 TD vs. 4 Int's, and completed 48.5% of his passes for just 515 yards (avg. of 85.5 yards per game). So with little threat of a passing game, Coleman became even more of a focus of opposing defenses.

Coleman is also already a decent pass protector & a fairly good receiver out of the backfield.

Interestingly, some folks have pointed out that Murray led the NFL in 'yards before contact' in 2014. Some of that was his vision to cut back against over-pursuit...some of it was of course the OL...some of it according to Murray himself, was sometimes facing 'lighter boxes' because of the surrounding talent in Dallas.

 

[fishspill]

I haven't seen much but he looks a lot like McFadden to me. That hasn't gone too well.

 

[ccb04]

I haven't seen much but he looks a lot like McFadden to me. That hasn't gone too well.

In college...McFadden played for a much better overall team, with Jones & Hillis as backfield mates. Injuries & the Raiders helped derail McFadden's NFL career at least somewhat.

Interestingly, some see similarities between Trent Richardson & Gurley in college. And then there's dispelling the notion of the lack of success of Wisconsin RB's in the NFL for Gordon. Wouldn't stop me from considering selecting either one. The draft really is a crapshoot.

 

[Zekeats]

I dont really see the love for Coleman...

small hands, thin lower body, goes down relatively easy.

He is definitely fast, though..

Small hands? Really. We are worried about small hands.
And a thin lower body? Whats thin, his waist? He is 5'11 207lbs whats thin?

And he breaks plenty of tackles but with incredible vision and speed most of the time he passes the defender without being touched. I don't think thats a bad thing.

 

[Gaede]

He can play. One of my.favs in this draft. With our oline, get him into space and he's gone. You don't put up those kind of #s if you go down on first contact

 

[Hailmary]

I like Gordon as well...and have been a fan of Coleman's for a while. Like Gurley & others too. Deeper class indeed.

As I posted in another thread.....

Former Bears college scouting director Greg Gabriel (one of the guys that pushed hard for the Bears to draft Matt Forte), has Tevin Coleman ranked as the #1 back in the draft. His take via NFL.com.....
"My thinking is that if Coleman played behind the Wisconsin line he may have run for over 2500 yards. As it was, he ran for 2036 yards, a 7.5 average per carry, 15 touchdowns and 25 receptions," Gabriel wrote. "Coleman has a complete game. He can run with power between the tackles, is creative, and consistently gets yards after contact. He has the speed to turn the corner and is elusive in the open field. As a receiver, he is very reliable, runs good routes and has very good hands. Add to that the fact that he can already pass protect and is a dangerous kickoff returner."

My Dad is an Indiana alum...so I watched some of their games. Indiana's O-Line wasn't very good. And when Nate Sudfeld went down (who's pretty decent), their 3rd string Freshman QB started the remaining 6 games...in which he threw 1 TD vs. 4 Int's & completed 48.5% of his passes for just 515 yards. Yet, Coleman still kept producing.

This is my concern about Gordon. Is he as good as his stats say he is or were a lot of those yards the result of a very good Wisconsin line.

 

[Hailmary]

Small hands? Really. We are worried about small hands.
And a thin lower body? Whats thin, his waist? He is 5'11 207lbs whats thin?

And he breaks plenty of tackles but with incredible vision and speed most of the time he passes the defender without being touched. I don't think thats a bad thing.

Legitimate questions imo. Small hands could mean fumbles. 207 isn't necessarily thin, but it's all about weight distribution. Ideally you'd want a back with massive thighs and a big ole bubble butt.

 

[JeffInDC]

Legitimate questions imo. Small hands could mean fumbles. 207 isn't necessarily thin, but it's all about weight distribution. Ideally you'd want a back with massive thighs and a big ole bubble butt.

The guy we just lost DIDN'T fit that mold, and he did pretty damn good. Marcus Allen also looked like a WR, but he was pretty good too. Just sayin'..................some of those thick-legged guys end up having Miles Austin Syndrome.

 

[locked&loaded]

The guy we just lost DIDN'T fit that mold, and he did pretty damn good. Marcus Allen also looked like a WR, but he was pretty good too. Just sayin'..................some of those thick-legged guys end up having Miles Austin Syndrome.

Murray had bigger hands and every announcer would say how strong his hands are during a handshake, he still had fumbling issues. Murray was also a bit bigger than Coleman coming out.

Watch the videos of Coleman on draftbreakdown.com , dont watch his youtube highlights. He literally goes games of getting 2 yards a carry and then breaks a 70 yarder running completely straight.

People complain about J train from boise state bouncing it outside too much, but his line sucks. Furthermore, he breaks plenty of tackles and runs inside when there is a hole.

I am no scout, but I think youd have to be insane to put baby Abdullah and Coleman over Ajayi, let alone Gordon and Gurley.

 

[Future]

I dont really see the love for Coleman...

small hands, thin lower body, goes down relatively easy.

He is definitely fast, though..

Yea, I'm not a huge fan of Coleman.

I'm actually not that high on Gordon either, especially if he's going to go late 1st/early 2nd.

Give me Ajayi later.

 

[VACowboy]

A lot of people are selling Duke Johnson short, I think mebbe in large part because of his size. But he's no smaller than LeSean McCoy, who measured 5-10 and 198 at the combine (Johnson was 5-9, 207). He runs inside extremely well, breaks tackles and is a threat to go to the house every time he touches the ball. Truthfully, I wouldn't mind seeing some speed in the Dallas backfield for a change.

 

[maxdallasfan]

I've read more negatives on Ajayi than the others. Plus, he stole sweatpants. Really?

 

[locked&loaded]

I've read more negatives on Ajayi than the others. Plus, he stole sweatpants. Really?

That was 3.5 years ago when he was like 18.

 

[maxdallasfan]

That was 3.5 years ago when he was like 18.

Heavy workload in 2014 with 398 total touches (28.4 per game).
Ball-security concerns with 11 fumbles over last 597 carries.
Pass-protection technique needs improvement.