I love Wade's Guys

[Kwmike22]

He helped bring Brooking and Olshansky. He coached them before they are not JAGS. Bill got alot of credit for his guys so should Wade.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I certainly give him credit for those two.

 

[CF74]

Wade won't get much credit around here until he gets the playoff monkey off his back...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

On this topic...

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=51B714CB-D465-C5D7-0698A4A73E9386FA

My favorite quote:

During the Cowboys' previous coaching administration, much was made of the team bringing in players who fit the mold their head coach was wanting and had played under Bill Parcells previously. In Phillips' third year with the Cowboys, Olshansky and weak side linebacker Brooking became the first real "Wade Guys" to join the team.

Brooking made the Pro Bowl when Phillips was his defensive coordinator in Atlanta in 2002 and 2003, and the coach had just taken over the same position with the Chargers in 2004 when the club drafted Olshansky.

Both said the coach they found when they got to their new team was exactly the one they remembered from his previous stops.

"This is what I'm used to," Olshansky said. "When Coach Phillips left (San Diego), everything changed. The defense wasn't the same. Even though you try to run it the same way, you really can't. Everyone's got their own ideas, and their true personality is going to come out on the calling and on the defense. This is coach Phillips' defense."

 

[Jay]

Wade won't get much credit around here until he gets the playoff monkey off his back...

Parcells did nothing for us in the playoffs either. Parcells upped the talent level on our team, but Wade Phillips has done just fine himself.

I loved Parcells, but Wade has really made a difference in our defense IMO. I feel our offense is yet to get to the top, but in the NFC, we're the #1 defense in terms of points allowed. I hate when people use yards allowed, that means nothing. We are #2 overall in the NFL in points allowed.

I'm still being patient with Garrett, but if we fail to win a playoff game by the score of 17-7 or 17-10 or something like that, I will flip out if Wade is fired and Garrett promoted.

In our 3 losses, where do you point the blame? Think about it.. I don't put that first game against the Giants on the defense. The Broncos had that late drive, but our offense left a lot on the field that day. And the Packers, well.. that's an obvious one.

Our defense is one of the best in the NFL, and is definitely flying under the radar right now. If that offense clicks this season like we all know it can, we will be a very, very dangerous team to face in the playoffs. Even if NO/Minnesota get the spots in front of us, that means we'd be playing in a controlled environment with no factor in weather.

Just my random rambling.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

He helped bring Brooking and Olshansky. He coached them before they are not JAGS. Bill got alot of credit for his guys so should Wade.

DeCamilius is Wade's guy too. Don't discount the Special Teams coach. Thnaks to Wade, the Defense and Special Teams are "bringin it" every week. So where does that leave Garrett and his guys?

The 3 currnt players that Garret lobbied to bring in (i.e. his guys) are felix Jones, Martellus Bennett, and Roy Williams. Jones has been often injured, and while he's finally coming on now, let's just wait and see if he can keep himself healthy. So far he has proven that even the slightest injury renders him ineffective. Like Jones, Bennett shows flahes but has not lived up to what Garret hoped he would. And Williams has just been a shameful aquisition and a waste of draft picks.

 

[CCBoy]

This is a pretty short but strong thread...

Wade had things pretty well set for him upon arriving. Jerry was left in transition by the departed Bill Parcells. I guess he drew upon his own past with Jimmy Johnson and the developments that occured afterwards, but things were overly protective in the favor of the organization. None-the-less, Jerry and Wade survived, and in the process, have given Jason Garrett his footing for a future in the NFL.

I like what has been added to staff, and the loyalty aspects can not be oversold when it comes to top levels of NFL play. When there appears to be chaos, the Cincinnatti Bengals appear...and it does involve motivations and directions.

At least in discussing the elements associated with certain heads of the franchise, allows a better view by fans as to role that each element contributed to an overall effectiveness. Today, the offense has missed on many scoring opportunities, but is gaining an identity as a unit as well. The defense, under Wade, and continued a steady and solid growth in it's effectiveness. When all elements are combined, and stress not solelly located on one aspect of offense, defense, or special teams, then this team becomes very stubborn and hard to dislodge at the end of games. That is light years ahead of the past decade....

 

[Biggems]

In Wade I Trust

 

[Eskimo]

DeCamilius is Wade's guy too. Don't discount the Special Teams coach. Thnaks to Wade, the Defense and Special Teams are "bringin it" every week. So where does that leave Garrett and his guys?

The 3 currnt players that Garret lobbied to bring in (i.e. his guys) are felix Jones, Martellus Bennett, and Roy Williams. Jones has been often injured, and while he's finally coming on now, let's just wait and see if he can keep himself healthy. So far he has proven that even the slightest injury renders him ineffective. Like Jones, Bennett shows flahes but has not lived up to what Garret hoped he would. And Williams has just been a shameful aquisition and a waste of draft picks.

I think it is fair to criticize Garrett on many points, some of which have validity. I disagree with your point on some of Garrett's guys.

Felix has been great - just unlucky with the injury bug and there is nothing you can do about that. My main complaint about Garrett is that he doesn't use Felix nearly enough. He should really be the #1 option on offense as he is our most dynamic, skilled offensive player.

Bennett has had his ups and his downs. I think he has great potential as a receiver and has been under-utilized a bit there. He has been a terrific blocker in the two TE sets. I do think we should run the two TE sets much more than we do so Bennett can be on the field more and we can have more diversity in our passing attack.

Lastly, I'm not sure Garrett had all that much to do with RW coming here. Jerry has had an infatuation with Roy going back a long time. I think Garrett used RW's presence to convince Jones that we didn't need to keep TO because Garrett could use RW as a #1 WR in his offense. I think this was more of an addition by subtraction POV that Garrett took here on the TO issue.

I think the one Garrett decision I despise was bringing in Brad Johnson as the backup QB. After keeping him for a whole year in 2007 I am shocked that he didn't recognize how bad he was - and then he had to play 3 games in 2008 when Romo got hurt. I still cuss Jones out for trying to sneak Matt Moore on the PS in 2007 as he could have been our backup and would have likely don a better job than Johnson did. Kitna should be solid if we ever need him and we didn't give up much to acquire him.

I think Garrett has actually shown a fair bit of growth as an OC this year. He has been ridiculously handcuffed by the inability of his OL to pickup the blitz.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

To me, Jason Garrett is more of a problem than Wade has been.
Wade has given us a good defense and done well with talent.
His issues are offensive inconsistency and fiery intensity.

Jason Garrett runs the ball more than he's given credit for, but that doesn't means it's not the same stinkin' play... Mix it up, pretty simple concept. Our Razorback isn't fooling anyone either, well I guess with the Raiders as the exception. Felix needs to get more sweeps with choice under center.

Delayed draw has been our go to running play. There's a reason why defenses blitz as soon as they hear "kill kill kill".

Why we don't run more screens, slants, fades, comebacks, etc... is beyond me. The short passing game is reliable, just not flashy (which is obviously Garrett's choice of play). Use our big receivers for something, it's hard to defend a slant, especially against receivers that are bigger than 90% of DBs.

Romo has his faults, but most QBs do as well.
Get him a good QB coach, a good OC to give him good plays and get this Jason Experiment out the door. Is he the worst OC in the NFL, not at all, but we could do better. Most of Jason Garrett's success is due to the level of talent he's working with. Most OC do more with a lot less.

I mean, what OC would not run the ball on a 1st and Goal at the 2 or 3 (don't remember) and thus risking the pick: Jason Garrett.

Anyway, enough ranting on my part.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

He has been ridiculously handcuffed by the inability of his OL to pickup the blitz.

I don't know if ridiculously handcuffed is right, but the OL could be playing better. Age in that OL should be a concern from now on, Flo just can't keep up with speed rushers (hence the tripping).

Anyway, that's outside of Garrett's control for the most part, but if the OL is a problem, Garrett should be changing the playbook to a more West Coast like approach (get rid of the ball quickly and get the yards).

 

[Sarge]

The 3 currnt players that Garret lobbied to bring in (i.e. his guys) are felix Jones, Martellus Bennett, and Roy Williams. Jones has been often injured, and while he's finally coming on now, let's just wait and see if he can keep himself healthy. So far he has proven that even the slightest injury renders him ineffective. Like Jones, Bennett shows flahes but has not lived up to what Garret hoped he would. And Williams has just been a shameful aquisition and a waste of draft picks.

I don't ever recall Garrett lobbying hard (or at all) for Roy Williams. I could be wrong (but that is highly unlikely).

 

[lcharles]

In Wade I Trust

 

[adbutcher]

On this topic...

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=51B714CB-D465-C5D7-0698A4A73E9386FA

My favorite quote:

During the Cowboys' previous coaching administration, much was made of the team bringing in players who fit the mold their head coach was wanting and had played under Bill Parcells previously. In Phillips' third year with the Cowboys, Olshansky and weak side linebacker Brooking became the first real "Wade Guys" to join the team.

Brooking made the Pro Bowl when Phillips was his defensive coordinator in Atlanta in 2002 and 2003, and the coach had just taken over the same position with the Chargers in 2004 when the club drafted Olshansky.

Both said the coach they found when they got to their new team was exactly the one they remembered from his previous stops.

"This is what I'm used to," Olshansky said. "When Coach Phillips left (San Diego), everything changed. The defense wasn't the same. Even though you try to run it the same way, you really can't. Everyone's got their own ideas, and their true personality is going to come out on the calling and on the defense. This is coach Phillips' defense."

Fans can say what they want but Wade has the respect of his players and that is all that matters.

 

[camelboy]

I am the type of person who would give coaches more time to get results..at least 4 years
I noticed in his all previous jobs as head coach he didn't stay more than 3 years and none Wade left with losing record.
I wonder what would happen if Wade is given the chance to bring his own
OC?
Regardless of the outcome of this season, if there is a 1 year option, I would take it and see what he does next year..
It's clearly becoming more and more his team and there seem to be some stability
:cool

 

[TheCount]

DeCamilius is Wade's guy too. Don't discount the Special Teams coach. Thnaks to Wade, the Defense and Special Teams are "bringin it" every week. So where does that leave Garrett and his guys?

I don't think you're qualified to have "guys" after coaching for just 4 years.

 

[Eskimo]

I don't ever recall Garrett lobbying hard (or at all) for Roy Williams. I could be wrong (but that is highly unlikely).

RW was a Jerry move. I think the OP is confusing the issue - Garrett exploited the presence of RW to get Jerry to dump TO. He showed some cleverness in exploiting Jones' view of the inevitable success of RW in Dallas to get rid of another problem child brought in by Jones.

Hopefully Jerry has learned his lesson about immature underachievers (RW) and problem children (TO, Pacman, Tank).

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Newy Scruggs was insisting several weeks ago when I happened to listen to his show (I'm not a regular listener) that Garrett is the one who convinced Jerry last year that if he had another top receiver on the other side of TO, it would free up TO tremendously.

Now I know Jerry has loved Roy for years, but Newy was saying JG pushed Jerry to finally make the move.

I know some don't like Newy, and I don't really care for his personality all the time either, but I do think he's one of the few reporters who does have people who talk to him out at the Ranch -- maybe even Jerry himself.

And who knows, maybe this was a JG ploy to eventually run TO out of town. If so, bravo RJ.

 

[theogt]

RW was a Jerry move. I think the OP is confusing the issue - Garrett exploited the presence of RW to get Jerry to dump TO. He showed some cleverness in exploiting Jones' view of the inevitable success of RW in Dallas to get rid of another problem child brought in by Jones.

Hopefully Jerry has learned his lesson about immature underachievers (RW) and problem children (TO, Pacman, Tank).

It's as if you've written this whole story in your head and just assumed it's true.

 

[adbutcher]

It's as if you've written this whole story in your head and just assumed it's true.