I miss Tom Landry and Tex Schramm....

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I'm not going to lie, I loved Jimmy and what he brought to this franchise of course. BUT I miss Coach Landry and Tex: they brought CLASS, integrity, positive attitude, professionalism, passion, commitment and an overall successful demeanor to this team that's sorely lacking right now. Haven't thought about him much the last few years but with this mess going on right now....just miss him that's all.:starspin


BTW: spare me the "he was terrible and so were his teams at the end" speech. All good things must come to an end.........
 

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They could not last in today's TV dinner mentality (thanks Ice)

2 Rings in 28 and 29 years would not cut it with the kiddies.
 

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zrinkill;2583627 said:
They could not last in today's TV dinner mentality (thanks Ice)

2 Rings in 28 and 29 years would not cut it with the kiddies.

Please...

Most of us just want to win a playoff game. Landry provided a hell of a lot of those. The Cowboys were almost always in it during the Landry years. You would be hard pressed to actually find anyone on here that would balk at that. If you think you can prove that wrong please feel free to, but use something other than your opinion of other posters. I need facts. Perhaps you can come up with some posters that will readily admit they would not be happy with Landry's success today?
 

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newlander;2583615 said:
I'm not going to lie, I loved Jimmy and what he brought to this franchise of course. BUT I miss Coach Landry and Tex: they brought CLASS, integrity, positive attitude, professionalism, passion, commitment and an overall successful demeanor to this team that's sorely lacking right now. Haven't thought about him much the last few years but with this mess going on right now....just miss him that's all.:starspin


BTW: spare me the "he was terrible and so were his teams at the end" speech. All good things must come to an end.........

then go look for old footbage of games they coached.
 

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RoadRunner;2583644 said:
Please...

Most of us just want to win a playoff game. Landry provided a hell of a lot of those. The Cowboys were almost always in it during the Landry years. You would be hard pressed to actually find anyone on here that would balk at that. If you think you can prove that wrong please feel free to, but use something other than your opinion of other posters. I need facts. Perhaps you can come up with some posters that will readily admit they would not be happy with Landry's success today?

Really?

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Firing Chan Gailey after 2 seasons was the right move
Does anyone think Gailey would have done any better than the 5-11 that Campo put up the season after Gailey was fired? I don't. The team was old, tired, and gutted by free agency. There was nothing left.

Canning Chan Gailey was the right move. Jerry's mistake was not blowing it up completely in 2000. All coaches fired, dump as many contracts as possible, sweat off a bad cap year, and start rebuilding.

Jerry seems to have some sort of remorse for Gailey that he is using to justify not dumping this entire sorry coaching staff. Every single member of this coaching staff from Wade, to the coordinators, to the position coaches should all be looking for work as I type this.

What's more, is that the team does not need to be blown up. Get rid of certain head cases, cut some underachievers that won't hurt the cap. This team's fundamental problem is bad, leaderless coaching.

from a guy who says it was right to fire a coach after 2 years of playoff appearances and wants to do it again this year?
 

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zrinkill;2583675 said:
Really?



from a guy who says it was right to fire a coach after 2 years of playoff appearances and wants to do it again this year?
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Landry and Schramm led us to 20 straight playoff appearances. If we're not careful, we'll go 20 straight years without winning one:(
 

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GoCowboysGo;2583692 said:
Landry and Schramm led us to 20 straight playoff appearances. If we're not careful, we'll go 20 straight years without winning one:(

Because they stuck with a staff and did not freak out after an injury plagued season.


Now after saying that I also want Wade replaced. :laugh2:
 

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zrinkill;2583697 said:
Because they stuck with a staff and did not freak out after an injury plagued season.


Now after saying that I also want Wade replaced. :laugh2:

You and me both bud. You know I would have fired his sad arse after saying he didn't prepare his team to play St. Louis.:mad:

It feels to me like so many on this forum forget that he said he didn't. There were so many games where we didn't look ready, that's on the HC.
 

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Coach Landry and Tex Schramm were innovators with vision.

Flex D, resurrecting the shotgun, using computers, just a few of the innovations Coach Landry will be remembered for.

Tex Schramm took an expansion team and turned them into America's Tram

Jerry Jones couldn't sniff either one's jock on a good day...sorry, just my 2 cents...and he doesn't come anywhere near having the vision that these two Legendary Cowboys had.

What Jerry does have is boat loads of money.


Jerry should stick to whast he knows best....money.
 

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I've been "on board" since 1964. I vividly remember when the Cowboys were "the team that couldn't win the big one".

I reveled, between the ages of 4 and 29 yrs old, in the "Tom Landry/Schramm/Staubach" era(s). Those were great seasons and provided a great "football fan" life to anyone privileged enough to be a Cowboy fan.

But it wasn't without heartbreak and disappointment and pain either. Yeah, we went to the playoffs for something like 20 years, but only won two Super Bowls.

And I gotta' come clean on something here.....................for all those years of having a good time being a Cowboy fan, it pales in comparison to the early-90's, and the dominant glory, revenge and redemption under Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson.

Who amongst us is prepared to say that you were not in utter and absolute "GLORY" during those years? After the indignity of the Niners and Giants, of all teams, shoving it in our faces?

So, say what you want about the "good old days". And they were good. But don't discount, despite the Landry thing and the rough start, what the "Jones" era brought you.

True, lately it has stunk the joint up. But very few NFL fans have had the opportunity to experience what Jerry, Jimmy, Troy, Emmitt, Irvin, Novechech, et al...........brought to the table AFTER those Landry/Schramm days.

And this post is about "missing the Landry/Schramm" era. Well, I miss the "Jones/Johnson" times even more....................
 

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zrinkill;2583627 said:
They could not last in today's TV dinner mentality (thanks Ice)

2 Rings in 28 and 29 years would not cut it with the kiddies.

You may be right but Bill Cowher had 1 in 15 and ppl love him and think he can turn around any team!


BTW Landry went 5 Super Bowls, any other coach do that?
 

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There were men with class. When they ran the team we didn't have to listen to the criticism on how we managed the team.
 

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zrinkill;2583675 said:
Really?



from a guy who says it was right to fire a coach after 2 years of playoff appearances and wants to do it again this year?

What does any of this have to do with Landry?
 

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MONT17;2583765 said:
BTW Landry went 5 Super Bowls, any other coach do that?


I am not questioning Landry's greatness ..... just how he would not have been coach of a team for 28 years in this day and age.
 

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I really miss Clint Murchison & Bum Bright, the quiet in the background majority owners of that time span......

They let Tom L and Tex do their jobs...simple as that
 

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zrinkill;2583810 said:
I am not questioning Landry's greatness ..... just how he would not have been coach of a team for 28 years in this day and age.

Regrettably, you're correct.

Someone said yesterday, that a SB trophy will get you maybe four years more. That's the going rate.

Gruden, Brian Billick, Parcells, etc...............doesn't mean what it used to in the Landry and Knoll and Schula era.

But, at these prices, what it costs to get the guys, the stadiums, even THEIR OWN SALARIES as coaches, it's become clear that PRODUCTION NOW is the new "normal".

I have now problem with what Jerry did with Landry. I question "how" and "the way" he did it, like everyone else. But Landry's time was behind him. I give Jerry credit for having the courage and nuggets to pull the trigger that NOBODY else would ever dare to do.

And, look what it got us? You cannot argue with those early 90's "Jerry Jones" teams. I remember all the laughing and "tsk-tsking" and "what an idiot" stuff when Jerry fired Landry and hired Jimmy. Remember, Jerry was the FIRST EVER to hire a Collegiate coach directly to be an NFL HC. And EVERYONE, TO A MAN, called him a fool.

All that was conveniently forgotten after the trophy's started piling up. No recants, now "mea culpa's", no apologies from the prom queens on ESPN. So, give Jerry at least a little credit for sticking his neck out and hiring "the genius" Jimmy Johnson. I mean, THAT was ALL Jerry. HE PICKED JIMMY!! And then Jimmy just couldn't live without getting "all the credit".

I for one always gave Jerry props for orchestrating all that stuff, and getting us back to what probably and arguably was the greatest NFL team ever assembled.

That said, I've been "running cover" for Jerry the last decade, and I can no longer do so. The last two years................Jerry is officially "the problem". Can't cover for him or deny it any longer................
 

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sbark;2583841 said:
I really miss Clint Murchison & Bum Bright, the quiet in the background majority owners of that time span......

They let Tom L and Tex do their jobs...simple as that

True. And they would have been the last two people to be satisfied with two titles in thirty years.

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bbgun;2583868 said:
True. And they would have been the last two people to be satisfied with two titles in thirty years.

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I always thought that Landry played on the defense? Where did I get that from?


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