I see where Sapp is coming from

[Biggems]

because of how he was....but Ware is a leader. These are grown men, playing a man's game, and getting paid handsomely to do so. They should not need a fellow player barking at them to get fired up. If so, choose another profession.

IMO, Ware is a leader by example.....BTW, my favorite basketball player of all time gets the same knock as Ware...David Robinson. He was a great leader, just not the most vocal guy around. All both players do is practice hard, workout hard, and then play harder than almost anyone else.

I mean why should Ware have to bark at his teammates? Why should he have to get in Spencer's face and tell him to step it up? He shouldn't. He is busting his hump out there. Everyone else watches the film, they see all that he is doing. They should take it as a slap in the face that they are not fulfilling their obligation.

Now, as far as the NFLN saying Romo isn't a leader when times are tough....He has several come from behind victories. He also has played injured. He leads the team down in hurry up situations for scores. He is a leader. His teammates trust him, believe in him, and rely on him.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

leaders need to be vocal--even force themselves to do so--Ware has certainly earned the right to be more vocal--but he does not have to, there are many types of leaders

and the crap about Romo not being a leader is just that--a bunch of cowboy-obsessed/hating parrots regurgitating something they heard on Sportscenter

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

because of how he was....but Ware is a leader. These are grown men, playing a man's game, and getting paid handsomely to do so. They should not need a fellow player barking at them to get fired up. If so, choose another profession.

IMO, Ware is a leader by example.....BTW, my favorite basketball player of all time gets the same knock as Ware...David Robinson. He was a great leader, just not the most vocal guy around. All both players do is practice hard, workout hard, and then play harder than almost anyone else.

I mean why should Ware have to bark at his teammates? Why should he have to get in Spencer's face and tell him to step it up? He shouldn't. He is busting his hump out there. Everyone else watches the film, they see all that he is doing. They should take it as a slap in the face that they are not fulfilling their obligation.

Now, as far as the NFLN saying Romo isn't a leader when times are tough....He has several come from behind victories. He also has played injured. He leads the team down in hurry up situations for scores. He is a leader. His teammates trust him, believe in him, and rely on him.

those without substance, like to yell. scream. force people to follow them. that's sapp. he has to scream and yell to get people's attention. that's not sign of a natural leader. people follow leaders. end of story. there is different ways to lead. brady doesn't yell? yet people follow him and he is the unquestioned leader of the team. manning doesn't scream. yet he is the leader. urlacher doesn't scream or yell in people's face. yet he is the leader of their defense. and I can give you 50 more.

what sapp is confused about is getting people fired up. some players get fired up by screaming and yelling nad getting animated. that's different than leadership.

but sapp's stupidity doesn't know any bounds.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

those without substance, like to yell. scream. force people to follow them. that's sapp. he has to scream and yell to get people's attention. that's not sign of a natural leader. people follow leaders. end of story. there is different ways to lead. brady doesn't yell? yet people follow him and he is the unquestioned leader of the team. manning doesn't scream. yet he is the leader. urlacher doesn't scream or yell in people's face. yet he is the leader of their defense. and I can give you 50 more.

what sapp is confused about is getting people fired up. some players get fired up by screaming and yelling nad getting animated. that's different than leadership.

but sapp's stupidity doesn't know any bounds.

On this note, how does Sapp know anything about what Ware does and doesn't do? He's not at practices, on the sidelines of games, in locker rooms, etc. He knows just about as much as anyone on this board (actually less because he doesn't follow the Boys every move). And to boot, who is he to proclaim what a "leader" is and isn't. Sapp is a big bag of wind with no more credentials to be a sports analyst than any of us.....he just thinks the opinions that spew from his pie hole have merit but in the end, they're just to create a reaction and ratings.

 

[Seven]

You don't need to be sensationalized on television to be a leader. You don't have to be a barker to be a leader. One of the greatest cowboys ever was just such this leader. Bob Lily. Led by example. In practice and on gameday.

JMO, of course.

 

[Hostile]

leaders need to be vocal--even force themselves to do so--Ware has certainly earned the right to be more vocal--but he does not have to, there are many types of leaders

and the crap about Romo not being a leader is just that--a bunch of cowboy-obsessed/hating parrots regurgitating something they heard on Sportscenter

Tom Landry says hi.

 

[AmericasTeam2011]

IMO, Ware is a leader by example

This.

When you're performing at Ware's level you don't need to be vocal. You need to expect the team around you to their highest potential like you are for them.

 

[Rack]

because of how he was....but Ware is a leader. These are grown men, playing a man's game, and getting paid handsomely to do so. They should not need a fellow player barking at them to get fired up. If so, choose another profession.

1) Leadership is required with anything where "teamwork" is involved, game or not.

2) So since grown men don't need people "barking at them" our Drill Sergeants and Drill Instructors shouldn't have to "Yell" at soldiers anymore?

3) Being "Barked" at has nothing to do with being a man or not, sometimes people need a kick in the rear to reach their potential.

4) Football is not a "Man's game". If it were there would be no Pop Warner, middle school, or highschool football.

 

[Rack]

Tom Landry says hi.

Not many people have the "Aura" Landry had.

Ware doesn't have that "Aura", and there's nothing wrong with that.



Ware doesn't have to yell to be a leader, but if you don't think Ware getting fired up and firing up teammates in the huddle would inspire them then you're on something.


His play is inspiring as it is, but Imagine him getting in your face (not in a confrontational way) on 4th and Goal from the 1 and yelling for you to make a play. I don't know about you, but that would fire me the hell up!

Again.. he doesn't NEED to be more vocal, but I have no doubt his teammates would give a little extra if he demanded it from them.

 

[SWG9]

1) Leadership is required with anything where "teamwork" is involved, game or not.

2) So since grown men don't need people "barking at them" our Drill Sergeants and Drill Instructors shouldn't have to "Yell" at soldiers anymore?

3) Being "Barked" at has nothing to do with being a man or not, sometimes people need a kick in the rear to reach their potential.

4) Football is not a "Man's game". If it were there would be no Pop Warner, middle school, or highschool football.

I agree. At this level, it comes down to that extra 5% effort that makes the difference.

On any given day, you might not feel like getting out of bed early to hit the gym, but you know that if you sleep in, you're going to hear about it from teammates.

On any given day, you might not feel like paying 100% attention in a meeting, but you know that there will be repercussions if you don't.

On any given day, you might not feel like practicing as hard as you possibly can, but you know that you will be held accountable if you don't.

Etc., etc. Part of it is the coaches job, but the biggest part of it is the players policing themselves and holdind each other accountable.

You can't do that through leading by example.

 

[cowboy_ron]

because of how he was....but Ware is a leader. These are grown men, playing a man's game, and getting paid handsomely to do so. They should not need a fellow player barking at them to get fired up. If so, choose another profession.

IMO, Ware is a leader by example.....BTW, my favorite basketball player of all time gets the same knock as Ware...David Robinson. He was a great leader, just not the most vocal guy around. All both players do is practice hard, workout hard, and then play harder than almost anyone else.

I mean why should Ware have to bark at his teammates? Why should he have to get in Spencer's face and tell him to step it up? He shouldn't. He is busting his hump out there. Everyone else watches the film, they see all that he is doing. They should take it as a slap in the face that they are not fulfilling their obligation.

Now, as far as the NFLN saying Romo isn't a leader when times are tough....He has several come from behind victories. He also has played injured. He leads the team down in hurry up situations for scores. He is a leader. His teammates trust him, believe in him, and rely on him.

Big mouth don't always = leader

 

[Suave]

I saw where Sapp was coming from, but I still call "bull." The Cowboys don't lack "leadership." They may lack a clear and unquestioned vocal leader, but that should not be confused with lacking "leadership." THIS is why I put very little stock into what most media outlets say. Sports commentators are on the outside looking in, so they can't possibly know if there is no leadership on the Cowboys' roster.

Secondly, did any of you catch what he said about Romo? Sapp said something to the effect that he recalled watching a pre-game speech in which Romo was in the middle of the huddle getting the team ready for a game against Tampa Bay. He then said that a guy from Eastern Illinois should not be in the middle of the huddle when the team has a player like DeMarcus Ware. So wait a minute: in the past, you criticized Romo for not being a leader, but in the instance that he tries to "lead" you say he SHOULDN'T be in the middle of the huddle??? I'm sorry, but that is BLATANT hypocrisy! Romo is every bit the leader of the team as Ware; therefore, he has just as much right to be in the huddle to prepare the team for the game.


Lastly, Sapp stated that his comments about Ware were "not a knock" on Ware. If somebody told me that I can't lead a pack of ants to a picnic in my own backyard, how else am I suppose to take it other than a personal knock against me?

I'm sorry, but I didn't buy anything Sapp was selling.

 

[Pinkserendipity]

Lastly, Sapp stated that his comments about Ware were "not a knock" on Ware. If somebody told me that I can't lead a pack of ants to a picnic in my own backyard, how else am I suppose to take it other than a personal knock against me?

I'm sorry, but I didn't buy anything Sapp was selling.

Exactly. "I see where Sapp is coming from" does not compute for me.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I have mixed feelings. I agree and disagree with Sapp. I think Ware is a leader. He leads with his play and leads with his character. Do i personally wish he jumped on guys ***** for not trying hard enough? (ie Jenkins give up plays)...yea i do. But i like that type of thing. I think football is not only about talent and skill but about emotion. I do think the defense in the past needed a shot in the arm. Someone to wake guys up. Ware has the skins on the wall to do it.

 

[Hoofbite]

those without substance, like to yell. scream. force people to follow them. that's sapp. he has to scream and yell to get people's attention. that's not sign of a natural leader. people follow leaders. end of story. there is different ways to lead. brady doesn't yell? yet people follow him and he is the unquestioned leader of the team. manning doesn't scream. yet he is the leader. urlacher doesn't scream or yell in people's face. yet he is the leader of their defense. and I can give you 50 more.

what sapp is confused about is getting people fired up. some players get fired up by screaming and yelling nad getting animated. that's different than leadership.

but sapp's stupidity doesn't know any bounds.

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[Hoofbite]

I heard Sapp's clarification the other day. It's on NFL.com.

I don't have a problem with what he said at all. He said there is a team full of guys who's entire careers have been in Dallas and yet Keith Brooking comes in and instantly assumes the leadership role that he did in 2009.

He said there needs to be someone who will "take the bull by the horns" and Dallas just hasn't had that which is why Brooking could so easily fill that void.

Sounds a lot like Sapp believes that Dallas needs a true Dallas Cowboy to lead the team. You can't just have stop-gaps be the leaders. You have to have a guy who is the face of the franchise step up and be THE GUY.

I really think that Dez will be thrust into this role by default. His performance and in-game effort will essentially force him, or others, to call on the guys who aren't giving their all.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm one of the few who actually likes Sapp. He seems to me like a very sharp, intelligent guy underneath the animated, sometimes over-the-top personality.

But I think only about 10% is his honest feeling that Ware lacks anything as a player and leader, and that's probably only because he happens to have the exact opposite personality of Ware.

The other 90% is pure modern TV schtick where manufactured arguments and outrageous opinions are the norm. In fact, I'd bet pretty good money that their little phone conversation went something the way of, "Don't worry, D-Ware, half the stuff I say on there I don't mean anyway... Our producers just want us to say stuff to get people riled up. I know you're a hell of a player and a leader on that team."

 

[Doomsday101]

I heard Sapp's clarification the other day. It's on NFL.com.

I don't have a problem with what he said at all. He said there is a team full of guys who's entire careers have been in Dallas and yet Keith Brooking comes in and instantly assumes the leadership role that he did in 2009.

He said there needs to be someone who will "take the bull by the horns" and Dallas just hasn't had that which is why Brooking could so easily fill that void.

Sounds a lot like Sapp believes that Dallas needs a true Dallas Cowboy to lead the team. You can't just have stop-gaps be the leaders. You have to have a guy who is the face of the franchise step up and be THE GUY.

I really think that Dez will be thrust into this role by default. His performance and in-game effort will essentially force him, or others, to call on the guys who aren't giving their all.

That very well could be the case as Dez gains maturity and hopefully respect of teammates. It is hard for a young player to take on that role. If he can produce and show dedication then with his personality I can get him being a vocal leader.

As for Ware as I mentioned before he may never be that rah rah guy but I do think when he speaks others on the team listen.

 

[Suave]

I heard Sapp's clarification the other day. It's on NFL.com.

I don't have a problem with what he said at all. He said there is a team full of guys who's entire careers have been in Dallas and yet Keith Brooking comes in and instantly assumes the leadership role that he did in 2009.

He said there needs to be someone who will "take the bull by the horns" and Dallas just hasn't had that which is why Brooking could so easily fill that void.

Sounds a lot like Sapp believes that Dallas needs a true Dallas Cowboy to lead the team. You can't just have stop-gaps be the leaders. You have to have a guy who is the face of the franchise step up and be THE GUY.

I really think that Dez will be thrust into this role by default. His performance and in-game effort will essentially force him, or others, to call on the guys who aren't giving their all.

I certainly agree with that, and I don't have a problem with that portion of his comments. It seems odd that a player who had just joined the team (Brooking) is in the middle of the huddle leading the team; it should be someone "homegrown."

On the other hand, I still maintain that Dallas does have leadership: just not the vocal leadership that many would associate with having a leader. Does that necessarily hurt the team? I don't know. I think what ultimately matters is execution on the field whether the team has a "vocal" leader or not. I'm pretty sure Jon Kitna was being that vocal presence in Detroit.. while his team went 7-9 and 3-13. Getting players emotionally "worked up" before a game means nothing if you still play like crap on the field.

I'm not really disagreeing with you, Hoof; I just take issue with some of Sapp's comments.

 

[DallasEast]

I have seen where Sapp has come from. And believe me, it ain't pretty, that's for sure.