I think DWare had more sacks at DE than OLB

[xwalker]

DE in 4-2-5 Nickel vs OLB in 3-4

I don't have the stats, but I was watching some DWare highlight videos and I counted more sacks when he played DE than OLB.

It would make sense because 4-2-5 was Wade's pass defense and 3-4 was was his base downs defense.

 

[quickccc]

DE in 4-2-5 Nickel vs OLB in 3-4

I don't have the stats, but I was watching some DWare highlight videos and I counted more sacks when he played DE than OLB.

It would make sense because 4-2-5 was Wade's pass defense and 3-4 was was his base downs defense.

how many years did DWare play in the 4-3 and 3-4 under both Zimmer, Parcells

and how many years under 3-4 Wade ...

and how many years did he play in Kiffin, Marinelli 4-3 scheme before he was eventually cut ? ...

 

[Maxmadden]

Hard to get a sack when you are covering the RB coming out of the backfield.

This use to frustrate me to no end.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hard to get a sack when you are covering the RB coming out of the backfield.

This use to frustrate me to no end.

There use to be times where I’m not sure if it was okay design but they’d even have Ratliff do that. Amazing that a your DT can do it but it’s bad they have too IMo.

 

[xwalker]

how many years did DWare play in the 4-3 and 3-4 under both Zimmer, Parcells

and how many years under 3-4 Wade ...

and how many years did he play in Kiffin, Marinelli 4-3 scheme before he was eventually cut ? ...

Why?

He was always 3-4 except the 1 year with Kiffin.

 

[xwalker]

Hard to get a sack when you are covering the RB coming out of the backfield.

This use to frustrate me to no end.

He was only in coverage about 5% of snaps.

Spencer played coverage on over 20%.

If Ware was in coverage vs a RB, that was often when the offense needed 3 or 4 yards to get a 1st. Those are quick dump off plays will little chance of a sack anyway.

 

[buybuydandavis]

He was only in coverage about 5% of snaps.

Spencer played coverage on over 20%.

If Ware was in coverage vs a RB, that was often when the offense needed 3 or 4 yards to get a 1st. Those are quick dump off plays will little chance of a sack anyway.

People don't like the changeups, but they give the QB one more thing to think about all game.

Marinelli was predictable. "We'll beat them with execution." Does anyone think that's really the way to go?

 

[CCBoy]

The makeup of defensive scheme this season will require a very sophisticated view and study to fairly evaluate on carpet play this year. It will likely be a very good year to keep count of game time plays by players.

 

[DonaldM]

There is no difference

 

[Chuck 54]

DE in 4-2-5 Nickel vs OLB in 3-4

I don't have the stats, but I was watching some DWare highlight videos and I counted more sacks when he played DE than OLB.

It would make sense because 4-2-5 was Wade's pass defense and 3-4 was was his base downs defense.

Most people don’t realize that the NFL didn’t go to the 3-4 because it’s a better pass rush defense. There have been a few superior OLBs who played in the 3-4, but that defense became popular in the NFL because it’s better vs the Run game. A brute nose tackle requires a double team from C&G; the DEs are 290+ (More like DTs), playing inside shoulder on the tackles. Then you have two bigger than normal OLBs and usually 2 big thumpers at Inside LB.

 

[conner01]

DE in 4-2-5 Nickel vs OLB in 3-4

I don't have the stats, but I was watching some DWare highlight videos and I counted more sacks when he played DE than OLB.

It would make sense because 4-2-5 was Wade's pass defense and 3-4 was was his base downs defense.

If you are up to a whole lot of homework there is a YouTube video of every Ware sacks lol

 

[DonaldM]

Isn't the objective to kill the ball carrier? I get different responsibilities but it's the same.

 

[conner01]

He was only in coverage about 5% of snaps.

Spencer played coverage on over 20%.

If Ware was in coverage vs a RB, that was often when the offense needed 3 or 4 yards to get a 1st. Those are quick dump off plays will little chance of a sack anyway.

He didn’t play coverage a lot but he had 25 PD
A very under rated player

 

[Ranched]

Either way, he should be in the Hall by now!

 

[quickccc]

Why?

He was always 3-4 except the 1 year with Kiffin.

..and the years with Marinelli

 

[Typhus]

Hard to get a sack when you are covering the RB coming out of the backfield.

This use to frustrate me to no end.

DWare used to get used back in coverage vs TEs often.

 

[jwitten82]

Either way, he should be in the Hall by now!

The fact he wasn't a first ballot Hofer is bs

 

[Maxmadden]

Ware would have been good no matter where you put him but seeing him doing something other than rush the passer was a waste of his talent and minutes.

It took away from what he did best.

Parsons on the other hand can make plays as a LB and play DE. He can rush the passer from the DE or LB position and teams have to plan for it, giving him and his team mates the element of suprise and flexibility.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

DE in 4-2-5 Nickel vs OLB in 3-4

I don't have the stats, but I was watching some DWare highlight videos and I counted more sacks when he played DE than OLB.

It would make sense because 4-2-5 was Wade's pass defense and 3-4 was was his base downs defense.

I always thought the argument that he couldn’t play DE was the best way to know if someone understands the basics of an NFL defense.

 

[BAT]

Why?

He was always 3-4 except the 1 year with Kiffin.

Wade and Parcells 3-4 were very different.