I think we may be looking at the WR position wrong

Bizwah

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I think most on this board (and others) are thinking that we'll draft a WR early in the draft.

We may....

But I don't think so.

We know Parcells doesn't like to have WRs on the roster just wasting a roster spot. Remember Quincy Morgan? He was cut because he was going to be our fourth WR. Parcells said he didn't want our fourth WR to not contribute in some way.

I think the WR we draft will have to play STs in some fashion....either as a returner or gunner. Holmes is a fine prospect (I personally, don't think he's worth pick 18) as is Jackson (ditto). Now, they may be able to beat out Crayton, but they won't beat out Owens or Glenn. If they can't beat out Crayton, then we have a wasted roster spot.

I think we go after a guy we can develop. A guy that will be available on the second day. While we're developing the guy, we let him play special teams as a PR or gunner.

Now, who's out there that can do this?

Brandon Marshall (although he might be creeping up to a first-day prospect)
Marques Colston
Miles Austin
Skyler Green
Greg Jennings

All would fit the profile I think we're looking at. Now, I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR on day one if we got one for good value (like a trade down in the mid to lower-twenties for Holmes or Jackson).

I really like Marshall the best. Huge player....I'll admit that I haven't seen much of him. I watched the bowl game he played in where he got over 200 yards and three TDs. I also saw him abuse CBs in the Hula Bowl. He played his JR year at safety so you know he can tackle on STs. I think he'd be the perfect guy to draft as a special teamer/developmental prospect.

But like I said, he may not be there on day two....he's looking more like a third-round prospect.
 

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I don't necessarily think we have to draft a WR who can return punts or kicks as we have Tyson Thompson and Crayton to do those things. That said, Greg Jennings is tough and a solid return guy, plus he has decent speed. He'd make a nice 4th-receiver.

Marshall is intriguing for sure. He's not the most athletic guy but he's huge @ 6'5", 230 lbs. and would therefore make a nice red-zone target and slot receiver. I'm not sure if he'd fit on the outside as he doesn't have that much speed and might have difficulty getting separation off the line. If he added a few pounds, he might make a nice TE maybe.
 

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AAHHRoyWilliamsIsAfterMe! said:
I don't necessarily think we have to draft a WR who can return punts or kicks as we have Tyson Thompson and Crayton to do those things. That said, Greg Jennings is tough and a solid return guy, plus he has decent speed. He'd make a nice 4th-receiver.

Marshall is intriguing for sure. He's not the most athletic guy but he's huge @ 6'5", 230 lbs. and would therefore make a nice red-zone target and slot receiver. I'm not sure if he'd fit on the outside as he doesn't have that much speed and might have difficulty getting separation off the line. If he added a few pounds, he might make a nice TE maybe.

He's as fast as Michael Irvin and TO....both were 4.5 guys. Marshall's a 4.5 guy.

He sure looked good beating guys off the line in the two games I saw him play. He abused a CB in the Hula Bowl that tried to jam him. Just threw him aside and blew by him.

He also easily got behind the secondary in both games. No, I think he'll be a WR.
 

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Devan Hester anyone? Not so much for his WR skills but I'd spend a 3rd on this guybased on his abilities to return kicks/punts and eventually develop into a 3rd corner, maybe #2 corner.
 

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Devin in the 4th is more realistic. Hell, if we could draft Zuriel in the 6th based on what he did at Hampton as a returner, we should be able to take a flyer on Hester in the 4th. Any earlier is a reach IMO, no matter how he pans out.
 

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I like Marques Colston the best right now. He flew under the radar during his career but really showed up after the season. He's got good size and speed, plus he's able to go up and get the ball very well.3

EDIT: Stats on Colston from the combine. He was the tallest WR there at 6'4 1/2" and 224lbs. He ran a 4.5 40 and had a 37" vertical. He could turn out to be a Keyshawn type player IMO. He can go up and get the ball in traffic and isn't afraid to go over the middle.
 

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Greg Lee is another guy on my radar...i havent seen his workout numbers yet, but if he was a good day look for him to be a steal in the third
 

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I'd hope we have Brandon Marshall on the Cowboy's list. The kid can flat out play. He's big (6'3" - 230), has got good speed for his size (4.5), knows how to use his body, and he showed that he can simply take over games. 74 catches 1195 yards - 16.1 YPC - 11 TDs.

He's from UCF and has a phenominal team first attitude. As a junior, he was asked to play defense as they had a ton of injuries on that side. Here is what his stats were in 2004.

2004: Appeared in 10 games with 10 starts ... started three games at wide receiver and seven at safety ... eight receptions for 84 yards at wide receiver ... led team with 51 total tackles from his safety position ... two receptions for 18 yards in a starting role at No. 21 Wisconsin (Sept. 4) ... led UCF with four receptions for 48 yards vs. No. 10 West Virginia (Sept. 11) ... two receptions for 18 yards at Penn State (Sept. 18) ... made first career start at safety at Buffalo (Oct. 4) ... four tackles, one for loss, and half a sack vs. the Bulls ... nine tackles vs. Northern Illinois (Oct. 9) ... six solo stops vs. the Huskies ... five solo tackles in the Akron game (Oct. 16) ... 11 tackles (10 solo) at Miami (Oct. 23) ... tallied first career interception, forced a fumble and totaled one tackle for loss vs. the RedHawks ... eclipsed career-high with 13 tackles at Marshall (Oct. 30) ... one pass breakup vs. the Herd ... four tackles at Ball State (Nov. 13) ... three punt returns for 33 yards including a long return of 21 yards vs. Kent State (Nov. 23).

He's a natural athlete that will need some work in learning how to really play the WR position. To me, this is a GREAT guy to take a chance on.

David Harrell - Pokes
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I still like Hank Baskett as maybe a 5th rounder (or 4th if we get one in a trade down). He's not fast or polished, but he's very big and strong, which Parcells likes... Might be another David Givens type.
 

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Bizwah said:
I think most on this board (and others) are thinking that we'll draft a WR early in the draft.

We may....

But I don't think so.

We know Parcells doesn't like to have WRs on the roster just wasting a roster spot. Remember Quincy Morgan? He was cut because he was going to be our fourth WR. Parcells said he didn't want our fourth WR to not contribute in some way.

I think the WR we draft will have to play STs in some fashion....either as a returner or gunner. Holmes is a fine prospect (I personally, don't think he's worth pick 18) as is Jackson (ditto). Now, they may be able to beat out Crayton, but they won't beat out Owens or Glenn. If they can't beat out Crayton, then we have a wasted roster spot.

I think we go after a guy we can develop. A guy that will be available on the second day. While we're developing the guy, we let him play special teams as a PR or gunner.

Now, who's out there that can do this?

Brandon Marshall (although he might be creeping up to a first-day prospect)
Marques Colston
Miles Austin
Skyler Green
Greg Jennings

All would fit the profile I think we're looking at. Now, I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR on day one if we got one for good value (like a trade down in the mid to lower-twenties for Holmes or Jackson).

I really like Marshall the best. Huge player....I'll admit that I haven't seen much of him. I watched the bowl game he played in where he got over 200 yards and three TDs. I also saw him abuse CBs in the Hula Bowl. He played his JR year at safety so you know he can tackle on STs. I think he'd be the perfect guy to draft as a special teamer/developmental prospect.

But like I said, he may not be there on day two....he's looking more like a third-round prospect.


I agree. I'd be mildly surprised if we drafted a receiver in the top two rounds. Now, in round 3, possibly if someone really good slips. But odds are, this is a second-day possibility.

I'd love another young receiver in here, but I don't know that he'll be used enough to justify the move in Parcells' mind -- especially over drafting an outside linebacker in the mold of a Bobby Carpenter or Manny Lawson, who might be able to start from day one and disrupt offenses.

I don't want us drafting for need, but I'd be shocked if we didn't use at least one of our top two picks on either a free safety or linebacker.
 

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Devan Hester anyone? Not so much for his WR skills but I'd spend a 3rd on this guybased on his abilities to return kicks/punts and eventually develop into a 3rd corner, maybe #2 corner.

no thanks...guy has no football skills whatsoever, and even as a return guy he isnt that great...he was actually benched for some of last season

I doubt he goes before the 6th or 7th rd

David
 

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Bizwah said:
Brandon Marshall (although he might be creeping up to a first-day prospect)
Marques Colston
Miles Austin
Skyler Green
Greg Jennings

I like Jennings the most. He just looked like a man amongst boys. It looked very easy to him. Reminded me of the way TO plays the position or at least makes it look easy. I like Jennings prospects of making a great WR and the fact he can return kicks. He's my number one on that list.
I like Skyler Green an AWFUL lot too. I'm not sure if he'll ever catch on as a WR but sure could turn into a Desmond Howard/Donte Hall type return guy. Would be worth a 5th or 6th just for STs alone.
 
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